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I'm a CS major, sophomore year. I've got some C and Java under my belt, but feel as though learning C++ would be a very good idea for the work force. On the Windows side, there's Visual Studio C++, etc. What do you all suggest for C++ coding on OS X? I'm on an iBook, so Boot Camp isn't an option.
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How does Xcode stand up against Eclipse with the C/C++ Dev Kit installed? I'm definitely more familiar with Eclipse, and would like to stay there if possible.
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Well, then install Eclipse!
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Dude, forget those ridiculously bloated IDEs, go with TextMate. Eclipse SUCKS on OS X. TextMate is seriously the best source code editor I know of. It's fast, light-weight, and is amazingly customizable while maintaining ease of use.
In short: TextMate + Makefiles + Terminal + GCC.
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Originally Posted by itistoday
Dude, forget those ridiculously bloated IDEs, go with TextMate. Eclipse SUCKS on OS X. TextMate is seriously the best source code editor I know of. It's fast, light-weight, and is amazingly customizable while maintaining ease of use.
In short: TextMate + Makefiles + Terminal + GCC.
Although I don't code c++ I support this. I work like that with java. Only problem: How do you debug? These endless System.out.println() resp. printf() suck.
Eclipse without at least a 20 inch screen is not what you want to use.
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OK, TextMate + Makefiles + Terminal + GCC + GDB.
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Originally Posted by Dr.Michael
Only problem: How do you debug? These endless System.out.println() resp. printf() suck.
As Chuckit mentioned, I use GDB, along with, as you mentioned, print statements. In addition to those I make extensive use of exceptions, this allows me to track down problems that don't cause seg faults, while GDB handles the rest. But yeah, personally I find the printf method* very easy and very handy. A good night's sleep helps to prevent making mistakes in the first place as well. 
* Regarding printf, as you're probably aware, in C it's better to use fprintf(stderr, "message") instead because that's flushed instantly, and thus no messages are lost due to a potential crash.
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Originally Posted by itistoday
As Chuckit mentioned, I use GDB, along with, as you mentioned, print statements.
That would be jdb for java. Is it really ok to use a commandline debugger? How do you work with it?
Regarding printf, as you're probably aware, in C it's better to use fprintf(stderr, "message") instead because that's flushed instantly, and thus no messages are lost due to a potential crash.
No, I am not aware (any more). I wrote the last line of c code maybe 10 years ago on an eltec OS 9 lab computer. But I will go on bringing together java and c. Java for ease of use, rapid development and powerful guis, c for all performance critical things. But thank you for the tip. This is something that is rarely mentioned in textbooks.
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Just a side note, since you have mentioned TextMate.
TextMate is now what BBedit was many years ago. It is astonishing. First users require functionality (all kind) and then they go for a minimalistic software that feels lightweight.
I guess we all look for exactly the solution that has all the functions we need, but not more. What does this mean for software development?
TextMate looks perfect for a programmer. Maybe thats the reason why I still prefer BBedit 5 over 8 (except for the functionality that shows multiple documents in one window).
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Originally Posted by Dr.Michael
That would be jdb for java. Is it really ok to use a commandline debugger? How do you work with it?
It's pretty simple, just do: jdb MyClass arguments. Then type 'run' or 'help'. Really, just read the man page on jdb by typing: man jdb
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The Xcode debugging function is pretty much just a GUI for the command-line debugger.
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Chuck
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Yeah, you can just use Xcode. TextMate is a better editor but Xcode is a far easier solution.
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I also like Aquamacs Emacs which is Emacs with a pretty, OS X interface.
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