[Sub]

Hi, I know this is in the wrong forum and I'm sorry, but I was pretty sure I would get way more responses here.

And this was supposed to be a poll, but instead, just post.

[centerchannel68]

The monitor that knows the difference between your and you're.

[Oisín]

Originally Posted by centerchannel68 

The monitor that knows the difference between your and you're.

Yeah, but would that be the Dell, the Apple, or neither?

[mduell]

Dell - better stand, more inputs, lower price, longer warranty

[ShortcutToMoncton]

Right now it's neither, but I will probably get a Dell whenever I can afford one for the Macbook Pro that I also cannot afford at the moment. Not as aesthetically pleasing, but as mduell notes the stand seems better, the actual monitor seems just as good, and the price simply can't be beat.

greg

[turtle777]

You can't beat the prices that Dell offers. Plus more inputs. I'd go with a Dell. Sorry, Apple.

-t

[BasketofPuppies]

If money is no object, Barco.
If money is an object but you're willing to part with a lot of it, Eizo or La Cie
If money is an object and you're not willing to part with a lot of it but still want something big and good, Dell.
If you want something that matches an Apple computer, Apple.

[Buckaroo]

Apple 30"

[Peter]

only total brand whores would buy an Apple LCD -- they're MUCH worse spec compared to Dell LCDs and a higher price AND have a crappier warranty!

[DeathToWindows]

Currently, a Dell 20"... probably going to get a 22" in the next few months

[exca1ibur]

Dell. no contest. Better features, price, and support. Love my two 24".

[MaxPower2k3]

Dell here too. Got my 24" hooked up to Mac Pro and XBox 360 with great results from both. Would consider getting a 20" to go with it if I had any more desk space.

[Rampant1]

LaCie does it for me -- 19" CRT is currently around 4.5 years old and it still looks and performs great!

[hempcamp]

I love my Dell 2407WFP! It was much cheaper and looks almost as sexy -- the aluminum highlights match the G5 well. I don't have many uses for the multiple inputs, but I do use the card reader.

--Chris

[Buckaroo]

Originally Posted by Peter 

only total brand whores would buy an Apple LCD -- they're MUCH worse spec compared to Dell LCDs and a higher price AND have a crappier warranty!

If you compare the Apple 30" vs. the Dell 30", I'd go with the Apple all the way. It's a much better quality, built at a much better standard. Dell's manufacturing stds. are horrible compared to Apple. Everything is plastic and built at a lower manufacturers std.

[angelmb]

If money is no object, Barco.
If money is an object but you're willing to part with a lot of it, Eizo or La Cie
If money is an object and you're not willing to part with a lot of it but still want something big and good, Dell.
If you want something that matches an Apple computer, Apple.

Right there. Then I would add the Nec SpectraView Reference, but it is insanely expensive. So if your work is aimed to everything colour, something like a LaCie 321 would be a great choice.

[mduell]

Originally Posted by Buckaroo 

If you compare the Apple 30" vs. the Dell 30", I'd go with the Apple all the way. It's a much better quality, built at a much better standard. Dell's manufacturing stds. are horrible compared to Apple. Everything is plastic and built at a lower manufacturers std.

Which panel manufacturer does Apple use for the 30"? And Dell?
Which ODM does Apple use for the 30"? And Dell?

[exca1ibur]

From what I remember they both use the same OEM manufacturer. If the Apple is such good quality, why the 1 year warranty? If ANY company advertises as quality they need to stand behind their product and prove it, especially if you are charging $500 more. Thats just my opinion.

[mduell]

The 20s used the same panel at one point (Dell 2005FPW and Apple 20" at the time), but I haven't seen confirmation that the 30s do. It wouldn't surprise me, but I wouldn't claim it without seeing a teardown.

[iMOTOR]

Originally Posted by exca1ibur 

If the Apple is such good quality, why the 1 year warranty?

If you're purchasing a cinema, chances are it's with a tower, in which case the towers AppleCare automatically covers the cinema for three years. And who here wouldn't get AppleCare on a Mac Tower+Cinema??

As far as screens go, we have almost completely switched over to an on screen proofing workflow. We use cinemas, our clients use cinemas, and most importantly our printers use cinemas (or Lacie LCDs).

[exca1ibur]

The specs are pretty much the same. The response time is different so prob not exactly the same one. The Dell might be a newer one since its faster and did come out later. I'm just saying for the money with them being so close in 'visual' quality, the extras you get for the price, including the warranty... I wouldn't recommend an ACD 30 to anyone.

Apple 30"

Dell 3007

[exca1ibur]

Originally Posted by iMOTOR 

If you're purchasing a cinema, chances are it's with a tower, in which case the towers AppleCare automatically covers the cinema for three years. And who here wouldn't get AppleCare on a Mac Tower+Cinema??

As far as screens go, we have almost completely switched over to an on screen proofing workflow. We use cinemas, our clients use cinemas, and most importantly our printers use cinemas (or Lacie LCDs).

I agree but the point is you must BUY the warranty.

[Buckaroo]

I don't think you understand, the specs might be similar, but the specifications and restrictions that Apple demands from the manufacturer are much higher than the ones Dell requires. Apple has tighter tolerances, Dell will accept lesser quality and then you get to put up with horrible Dell (foreign) tech support.

It's real simple, if Dell was worth a piece of crap, they wouldn't have the mountan of horrible tech support.

There is one other brand that I like and use and that is NEC.

[mduell]

Originally Posted by iMOTOR 

If you're purchasing a cinema, chances are it's with a tower, in which case the towers AppleCare automatically covers the cinema for three years. And who here wouldn't get AppleCare on a Mac Tower+Cinema??

Actually, most people I know don't buy a new display with a new computer. And Apple doesn't even offer the option of a 3 year warranty if you're buying just a display.

Originally Posted by Buckaroo 

I don't think you understand, the specs might be similar, but the specifications and restrictions that Apple demands from the manufacturer are much higher than the ones Dell requires. Apple has tighter tolerances, Dell will accept lesser quality and then you get to put up with horrible Dell (foreign) tech support.

Do you have any proof of this?
I know SJobs made a claim at a keynote that they reject displays others would accept, but I haven't seen any data to back that up.

[exca1ibur]

Originally Posted by mduell 

Actually, most people I know don't buy a new display with a new computer. And Apple doesn't even offer the option of a 3 year warranty if you're buying just a display.

Actually they do, its $100. The Apple Store (U.S.) - AppleCare Protection Plan for Apple Display
What is misleading, is you are really getting a 2 year warranty. They INCLUDE the one year you already get as one of the years.

[gargamel123]

I would go the dell route. Apple monitors are overpriced for what they are. They are nice to look at but I would rather have more functionality over looks.

[slpdLoad]

Any Dell, or one of the pre-aluminum 23" Apple cinema displays.

[Velocity211]

Dell, cause it's cheaper, more ports, and the stand. But it looks like crap compared to the Apple displays.

[gargamel123]

Originally Posted by Velocity211 

Dell, cause it's cheaper, more ports, and the stand. But it looks like crap compared to the Apple displays.

Just say it apple monitors are overpriced crap.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Sub 

Hi, I know this is in the wrong forum and I'm sorry, but I was pretty sure I would get way more responses here.

And this was supposed to be a poll, but instead, just post.

I'm not a monitor!

[gargamel123]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

I'm not a monitor!

That's good I was really worried that you were

[TheoCryst]

Neither at the moment. If the 20" Cinemas come down in price a bit, then I'll consider one of those. If not, then I'm thinking about a 20" Dell in the relatively near future.

[gargamel123]

Hey theo how are you doing?

[mduell]

Originally Posted by exca1ibur 

Actually they do, its $100. The Apple Store (U.S.) - AppleCare Protection Plan for Apple Display
What is misleading, is you are really getting a 2 year warranty. They INCLUDE the one year you already get as one of the years.

Is that a recent change? I've never seen it before.

[exca1ibur]

As far as getting 2 year Applecare labeled as 3 year? Yeah is has always been that way. They will always tell you 3 years and it's assumed its 3 years in addition to the year you already get, because thats how normal extended warranties work... except at Apple.

[mduell]

No, I meant buying AppleCare for a display without buying a Mac.

[exca1ibur]

Just last year.

[quattrokid73]

not to hijack, but interms of hooking a xb360 to a monitor, the VGA on the Dell wouldn't support HD. how would you connect the xb360 to a monitor and keep the 1080i? im thinking about whether to get a monitor or an LCD tv for when i go away next year and if i can get a monitor and have it run full HD, its much cheaper than the same size LCD tv...

thx adam

[gargamel123]

Viewsonic currently has 720p and 1080p monitors out and they aren't all that expensive.

[Cadaver]

If price was no object: Barco Nio Fusion 4MP 30" display. US$7,500.00

[mduell]

Originally Posted by quattrokid73 

not to hijack, but interms of hooking a xb360 to a monitor, the VGA on the Dell wouldn't support HD. how would you connect the xb360 to a monitor and keep the 1080i? im thinking about whether to get a monitor or an LCD tv for when i go away next year and if i can get a monitor and have it run full HD, its much cheaper than the same size LCD tv...

Why won't VGA work for 1920x600@60Hz? But if it won't, you can use the component inputs.

[quattrokid73]

thats what im saying. in order to get an HD quality picture on a 360, dont u need to use component cables? reason being, is because the Dell only has a VGA in, no component.

The 360 will only spit out 1080i if it uses its component cables.

[exca1ibur]

Originally Posted by quattrokid73 

thats what im saying. in order to get an HD quality picture on a 360, dont u need to use component cables? reason being, is because the Dell only has a VGA in, no component.

The 360 will only spit out 1080i if it uses its component cables.

Depends on which Dell monitor you get. The 24" and up models have Component, Composite, DVI, and VGA.

[quattrokid73]

oolala, ill check that out. thanks ex!

[MaxPower2k3]

Also, the Xbox can output several resolutions over VGA, including 1080p, which works just fine on a Dell 2407.

[angelmb]

Originally Posted by Cadaver 

If price was no object: Barco Nio Fusion 4MP 30" display. US$7,500.00

Isn't it a display for medical viewing?, I mean, does Barco sells DTP aimed displays anymore?

[olePigeon]

I bought a Philips 201B40 3 years ago, and I absolutely love it. Best monitor I've ever owned.

[EricTheRed]

Originally Posted by Peter 

only total brand whores would buy an Apple LCD -- they're MUCH worse spec compared to Dell LCDs and a higher price AND have a crappier warranty!

After a LCD monitor shootout conducted at home I'm now looking at three Gateway LCD monitors. A pair of 22" and one 24" display. Honestly, Apple's displays are easier on the eyes than Samsung, Dell, Spectre and Gateway but I couldn't justify the extra expense for Apple branded displays. The big problem: all the new displays are too bright and have no provision to reduce the brightness without crushing the blacks throwing color accuracy out the window. Apple's displays are not as bright and therefore easier to look at.

[quattrokid73]

360 can output with vga?!

[MaxPower2k3]

Originally Posted by quattrokid73 

360 can output with vga?!

Of course. Get the $40 VGA cable and you can output most standard (Even 4:3) resolutions.