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3G iPhone to be announced in Europe on Monday
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If they're unlocked..... and backwards compatible with US 2G networks... may be worth the wait and pick on up next time I'm in the UK.
     
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i'd be maaad boy if I were buying one in the states!
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Jun 29, 2007, 12:35 PM
 
Haha, yeah right. I'll buy one for every European who posts in this thread if it's true.

(Oh, it better not be true. )

Actually it wouldn't surprise me if they announced European carriers soon, but it won't be a new version of the iPhone.
     
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Originally Posted by BRussell View Post
Haha, yeah right. I'll buy one for every European who posts in this thread if it's true.

(Oh, it better not be true. )

Actually it wouldn't surprise me if they announced European carriers soon, but it won't be a new version of the iPhone.
Why not ?

1) Apple has six more months to develop and finalize 3G
2) 3G / UMTS is more readily available in Europe than EDGE. It makes plain sense.

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Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
Why not ?

1) Apple has six more months to develop and finalize 3G
2) 3G / UMTS is more readily available in Europe than EDGE. It makes plain sense.

-t
I think they've just been working on getting this one out the door. It just doesn't make sense to release an upgraded version a day after their big debut. Does that make sense to you? If it does, will you bet on it?

Jobs said iPhone Europe in 3rd quarter 2007, Asia 2008. To me, that says EuroPhone = AmericaPhone and released very soon, whereas Asiaphone = new version with 3g in 9 months or so. And I believe 3g penetration in Japan is much higher than in the US or Europe. Of course, when the 3g version comes to Asia it will also be sold in Europe and the US. That's my guess for the timeline anyway.
     
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Originally Posted by BRussell View Post
If it does, will you bet on it?
Nah, I don't have to. I might get a free iPhone on Monday

Originally Posted by BRussell View Post
Haha, yeah right. I'll buy one for every European who posts in this thread if it's true.
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Jun 29, 2007, 01:23 PM
 
I'm not getting one until it goes HSPDA (or at least UMTS). Hopefully there is a shred of truth to this.

Then again, if carriers could actually get 200 Kb/s speeds out of EDGE like some of the AT&T rumours suggest, then EDGE wouldn't be that bad.
     
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Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
Nah, I don't have to. I might get a free iPhone on Monday

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Originally Posted by Eug View Post
Then again, if carriers could actually get 200 Kb/s speeds out of EDGE like some of the AT&T rumours suggest, then EDGE wouldn't be that bad.
I agree. What are people intending to do with their iPhones ?
Watch HD movies in realtime ?
Download warez ?

200 kbit/s is not bad for most informational surfing.


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AT&T's EDGE speed boost confirmed

"anecdotes within the past day show a sudden increase in real-world speeds, with some reporting connections as quick as 270Kbps. The increase isn't yet known to be universal but has been tested in multiple New York City boroughs and other major cities."
     
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I'm just a European posting in this thread.
     
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Personally, I have always thought they would release a 3G version here. It just won't be acceptable here in the UK without it as we have the infrastructure and there is a huge amount of competition out there with 3G/HSDPA.

We also have a lot less Wifi (particularly free) here compared to the US. Thus, it needs 3G to be a viable internet appliance in the UK.

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I am posting in here and then moving to Europe so I, too, can have a free iPhone.
     
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Originally Posted by BRussell View Post
Haha, yeah right. I'll buy one for every European who posts in this thread if it's true.

(Oh, it better not be true. )

Actually it wouldn't surprise me if they announced European carriers soon, but it won't be a new version of the iPhone.
Posting in this thread from the UK, just incase .

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OK, I'm changing my deal to only the first 50 Europeans who post here.
     
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Originally Posted by BRussell View Post
Haha, yeah right. I'll buy one for every European who posts in this thread if it's true.

(Oh, it better not be true. )

Actually it wouldn't surprise me if they announced European carriers soon, but it won't be a new version of the iPhone.

I will give you my address,or I can pick it up.
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I've gotten drunk in Europe before. Does that count?
     
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OK, I'm changing my deal to only the first 50 Europeans who post here.
I grew up in Europe, where the history comes from. Spaniard here.
     
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Jun 29, 2007, 04:28 PM
 
A European iphone without 3G is dead as a dodo. I'm surely inside the 50. ;-)
     
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Jun 29, 2007, 04:58 PM
 
They have only a few months to find a decent 3G chip, or to have one fabbed.

Sounds tight, but of course they will have worked on this for some time. It's only that Jobs' way of sounding as if they wouldn't have found a satisfactory solution yet that worries me.
     
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Originally Posted by BRussell View Post
OK, I'm changing my deal to only the first 50 Europeans who post here.
I'm from the UK

it would be awesome if they did that, I'm with T-Mobile and wouldn't have to move carriers and already have the unlimited web 'n walk
     
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Jun 29, 2007, 08:00 PM
 
I would be really surprised if the EU version doesn't have a accessible sim card. There is a fairly large market of 'early adopters' who drop substantial cash for the latest handset. buying the thing almost outright not via contract, and transfer by just swapping the sims over (thus keeping some address-book numbers and more importantly there number). Locking the phone to one network and not having a sim card locks out this market.
     
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Jun 29, 2007, 10:19 PM
 
The US version already has an accessible sim card...
What the nerd community most often fail to realize is that all features aren't equal. A well implemented and well integrated feature in a convenient interface is worth way more than the same feature implemented crappy, or accessed through a annoying interface.
     
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Originally Posted by angelmb View Post
I grew up in Europe, where the history comes from. Spaniard here.


(btw a Spaniard who quotes Izzard.. I'm impressed! I haven't noticed many Izzard fans here hehe)

BTW I don't expect a European launch announcement any time soon. Nor can I imagine how Apple can give one or two European carriers exclusive contracts. Five or ten maybe..

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Jun 29, 2007, 11:19 PM
 
The US will get an announcement of available 3G when Apple releases it to the FCC for certification. That will be when you'll know when one will happen for the US market. Judging from the time for the certification for the EDGE version I'd bet we see an announcement before the end of Summer to allow a MacWorld intro.
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Another European registering for his free iPhone
     
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Originally Posted by Mediaman_12 View Post
I would be really surprised if the EU version doesn't have a accessible sim card. There is a fairly large market of 'early adopters' who drop substantial cash for the latest handset. buying the thing almost outright not via contract, and transfer by just swapping the sims over (thus keeping some address-book numbers and more importantly there number). Locking the phone to one network and not having a sim card locks out this market.

Indeed, I am willing to pay for a iPhone without a plan or sim-lock,so I can just use my simcard and keep my number.

I hope Apple does understand we have a completely different market overhere.
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Another one from Europe posting .
I wouldn't really use 3G because the iPhone already has wi-fi. But I do want more 3rd party apps.
     
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I am European, but live in the land of 3G (Hong Kong) - does that count
     
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Originally Posted by Andy8 View Post
I am European, but live in the land of 3G (Hong Kong) - does that count
No, but I'm in the UK so you better hand it over to me!

I can believe they'd announce a release date, but I'm sure there'll be no mention of 3G. That may emerge close to release...

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Originally Posted by BRussell View Post
Haha, yeah right. I'll buy one for every European who posts in this thread if it's true.


Chalk another one up for the Europeans - I'm Scottish born and bred. You do realise we're going to hold you to this, don't you?
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Originally Posted by The linked article
European Tri-iPhone launch will reveal 3G iPhone for Voda, T-Mobile and Carphone Warehouse.
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...with Apple going for a three-pronged European strategy with carriers...
Slight problem with this scenario: Carphone Warehouse isn't a carrier, it isn't even a virtual carrier. It's merely a shop which sells mobile phones and suggests the best network for you. They pride themselves on being independent of any network. If Apple were to team up with CW, I would have to assume that to mean you can get the iPhone on any network so long as you order it through either the Apple Store or Carphone Warehouse (which, FWIW would be a SUPERB way to do it!)
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Actually CPW is a quasi-MVNO for O2 contracts. If you sign up for O2 through CPW, your bills are from CPW and you have to talk to CPW for support etc.
     
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Originally Posted by BRussell View Post
OK, I'm changing my deal to only the first 50 Europeans who post here.

wieeee,.. posting from holland..

Well, i'd be suprised if they would announce a new iphone, but on the other hand, in holland we don;t have any Edge networks, only UMTS and HDSPA...

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So has it been announced yet?
     
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Originally Posted by Dakarʒ View Post
So has it been announced yet?
Looks like a negatory so far. BRussell is safe.... for now .

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Isn't that a damn shame.
     
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Yeah, they might have a limit of 2 iPhones, but didn't say anything about going in 25 times to buy 2 iPhones each time .

Ah well, we'll get you next time BRussell, next time!!!

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