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Weezer · Feb 27, 2005, 02:22 PM

bump...

MORT A POTTY · Feb 27, 2005, 08:07 PM

I'll call again monday

Lateralus · Feb 28, 2005, 12:11 AM

Lateralus want 1.6/1.73MP GD upgrade, yes he do!
Lateralus want 1.6/1.73MP GD upgrade, how 'bout you?

Eug Wanker · Feb 28, 2005, 01:23 AM

Well, my Sonnet 1.7 is still humming (silently) along quite nicely after two months.

MORT A POTTY · Feb 28, 2005, 03:17 AM

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Well, my Sonnet 1.7 is still humming (silently) along quite nicely after two months.

too bad you can't crank it up to 1.8Ghz

Eug Wanker · Feb 28, 2005, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by MORT A POTTY:
too bad you can't crank it up to 1.8Ghz

In truth, I think that would be pointless. It's only a 6% difference.

MORT A POTTY · Feb 28, 2005, 02:30 PM

we're all Mhz whores here... 6% is plenty reason

crooner · Mar 6, 2005, 03:31 AM

*bump*

Any word on whether Giga has received the 1.6Ghz chips? Still very interested in seeing how fast they can reliably run these as a dual CPU upgrade for my QuickSilver dual 1Ghz.

Tyre MacAdmin · Mar 6, 2005, 06:47 AM

Anybody know the differences between the 7457 and 7455A architectures?

P · Mar 6, 2005, 07:27 AM

It's a simple die shrink. Only difference is the large L2 (512KB instead of 256KB) and one extra L3 cache adressing pin (doubling the possible L3 cache size).

MORT A POTTY · Mar 6, 2005, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by crooner:
*bump*

Any word on whether Giga has received the 1.6Ghz chips? Still very interested in seeing how fast they can reliably run these as a dual CPU upgrade for my QuickSilver dual 1Ghz.

not yet, I'll call monday again

MORT A POTTY · Mar 7, 2005, 08:09 PM

ok, apparently they have now determined that there is no significant advantage of the 1.6Ghz chips for them to offer them, and will only sell the dual 1.4Ghz chips rated at 1.8Ghz. They will have some in towards the end of the week, and there is a 24 hour lead time from receipt of the chips to shipping. so, I'll end up saving 100 bucks (which I've now spent half of) and will have my upgrade within a week if all goes well.

that's the story.

Lateralus · Mar 8, 2005, 01:04 AM

Well... Crap. No 1.93 for me...

Time for a situational reevaluation. For what I would spend on a processor upgrade, plus what I could get on eBay for selling my G4, I could buy a new Dual 1.8GHz G5.

Decicions, decisions...

MORT A POTTY · Mar 9, 2005, 04:10 AM

well, the 1.4s may be able to be clocked that high, we just really don't know at this point. I'll surely try it though.

but, I'm not holding my breath. I'll settle for 1.86Ghz though, which has already been done (I've checked out XBench scores

) so 1.93 doesn't seem that far fetched, although I still am not quite sure if it'll happen. I will definitely try though.

Lateralus · Mar 9, 2005, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by MORT A POTTY:
I'll settle for 1.86Ghz though, which has already been done (I've checked out XBench scores )

Link? Checked myself and can't find it.

Do you intend to throw some Arctic Silver on there once you get thee upgrade? Giga advises against it, which has kept me from doing it with either of the Giga upgrades I've owned. But I figure the main thing holding back the 7447A at high clocks will be heat, not voltage, so I'm more open to dismisssing Giga's frown on thermal compoun application.

Lateralus · Mar 9, 2005, 02:58 PM

Oh, and BTW: Giga has removed the Dual 1.6/1.73 upgrade from their product offering page.

I guess this means we'll never see it.

MORT A POTTY · Mar 9, 2005, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by Lateralus:
Link? Checked myself and can't find it.

Do you intend to throw some Arctic Silver on there once you get thee upgrade? Giga advises against it, which has kept me from doing it with either of the Giga upgrades I've owned. But I figure the main thing holding back the 7447A at high clocks will be heat, not voltage, so I'm more open to dismisssing Giga's frown on thermal compoun application.

we'll see. that **** is expensive

I will play with it first and see what I can do, then I'll replace the fan with a Vantec tornado probably, and then I may try some arctic silver. you can put the fan back on... you can't really redo their compound (or can you...)

I definitely want a run at 2Ghz though, but I'd love to keep that warranty in tact.

http://ladd.dyndns.org/xbench/merge.xhtml?doc2=98705 there is the XBench score. I beat it on all tests that aren't CPU dependent

resuna · Mar 12, 2005, 10:14 AM

Any chance of the new Freescale chips in a compatible processor card? AFter some of the things Sonnet has pulled off (like the G3 upgrade for the 7200... now THAT was a godlike hack) I can't see them running unto a problem with the new e600 chips.

How about a dual dual-core upgrade?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/08...ores_detailed/
http://www.freescale.com/?code=DRPPCDUALCORE
http://www.cubeowner.com/forums/lofi...php/t8032.html

Lateralus · Mar 12, 2005, 02:23 PM

It has been discussed in the thread.

resuna · Mar 13, 2005, 08:14 AM

Ah... thanks, I missed it earlier.

I miss Usenet, none of these web boards makes discussions nearly as easy to follow as the old Usenet software did... friggin' spammers. [trails off into old-fogey mode]

Lateralus · Mar 14, 2005, 05:58 PM

Well, finally placed my order for a Dual 1.8GHz. Went with MacGurus as they have them for the lowest price ($683) and they're expecting a shipment this week. Went ahead and got FedEx 2-Day on it for $15 too.

Oh goodie...

MORT A POTTY · Mar 14, 2005, 07:06 PM

guess it's a race to see who can get it to Tulsa first huh

I'll post the minute mine arrives.

yukon · Mar 15, 2005, 12:46 AM

Can't wait for the next revision, the extra cache should benchmark a lot higher, the prices for the 1.7 will drop, and I'll join the upgrade club ;-)

Can anyone check to see the model of fans that the gigadesigns, or any upgrade for that matter, is using? I'm doing a couple G4 fan changes, so knowing the model to find the dBa/CFM would be a great help in planning. My G4 is too loud as it is, adding two CPU fans and a hotter PSU would be bad without some extra planning. The only site to mention it was xlr8yourmac.com, saying that a label was covering the fan label in one model.

Captain Egotist · Mar 15, 2005, 02:25 AM

My dual 1.33 gigadesigns upgrade uses a single 80mm fan, and the name of the fan was a 'max flow company' fan. I googled it, and the piece of **** pushes 41 cfm!!!!!! It's noisy as all hell too, I think the bearing is going out, but I can't find another fan that puts out nearly that much air. I think I might just get one that pushes 35cfm or something....

MORT A POTTY · Mar 15, 2005, 05:12 AM

Originally posted by Captain Egotist:
My dual 1.33 gigadesigns upgrade uses a single 80mm fan, and the name of the fan was a 'max flow company' fan. I googled it, and the piece of **** pushes 41 cfm!!!!!! It's noisy as all hell too, I think the bearing is going out, but I can't find another fan that puts out nearly that much air. I think I might just get one that pushes 35cfm or something....

boy can I help you

www.vantecusa.com

get a Tornado

the bitch will push more air than you ever dreamed of. I may be getting one myself to help with the overclocking of the dual 1418.

84.1 cfm of air
55.2 dba

it's loud, but it pushes 2x the air the stock fan pushes

Captain Egotist · Mar 15, 2005, 08:58 AM

Well yeah, I found a few that can push 80 cfm but I don't want a super loud ass fan, that's the whole reason I ahve to replace it: It's loud.

Lateralus · Mar 16, 2005, 02:04 AM

Haha... 55.2 dba. I think I'd rather not have a computer at all.

Anyways, been harassing Laurie from MacGurus. Apparently, the upgrade will ship from the same warehouse that Giga ships direct-orders from. And shes telling me that they're hoping a batch will ship on Friday, mine included.

So if my order is shipping from the same place your order is going to ship from (since you ordered direct), and a batch might be going out on Friday... we might really have a race to Tulsa.

yukon · 06:27 PM

Ah, crap, yeah, that's not going in my machine ;-). 41cfm, that's got to be around 38dBa.

I guess I'll be replacing my case fan with something more powerful than I was expecting, I wonder if anyone has tried a more reasonable fan on the upgrades, like a couple panasonic panaflo low? I wouldn't mind dropping a couple hundred mhz to be able to hear the music the computer plays ;-)

<edit: the fan on the gigadesigns would be around 36dBa, this is quite loud for any fan, using two you're at ~40dBa, pushing just less than my current 120mm but being ~2x louder...perhaps it's time they got compatible with pc coolers or 120mm fans. I don't trust Vantec after their Stealth line, they lie horribly on their specifications)

Lateralus · Mar 18, 2005, 09:35 PM

Did you upgrade ship today, Mort? Mine didn't...

Eug Wanker · Mar 18, 2005, 10:21 PM

Do your duals really need that much cooling? The 7447A/B really does seem to run cool. If you don't overclock the crap out your chips maybe you can run much quieter fans.

Posting from my 3 month old (single) silent [email protected] GHz G4...

MORT A POTTY · Mar 19, 2005, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by Eug Wanker:
Do your duals really need that much cooling? The 7447A/B really does seem to run cool. If you don't overclock the crap out your chips maybe you can run much quieter fans.

Posting from my 3 month old (single) silent [email protected] GHz G4...

that's the thing, I do plan on overclocking the hell out of it.

and no, mine didn't ship out either :'( maybe monday

danman · Mar 19, 2005, 01:12 AM

I called Giga today and they said they expected their shipment to arrive today or tomorrow and expect to ship them out early next week.

MORT A POTTY · Mar 19, 2005, 01:46 AM

Originally posted by danman:
I called Giga today and they said they expected their shipment to arrive today or tomorrow and expect to ship them out early next week.

if they got them today, they will ship out on monday because I've been told several times that they will ship out the next day. if they are waiting for them when they first get to work then I bet they might ship out that day though.

Lateralus · Mar 19, 2005, 02:39 AM

I sent off an e-mail to MacGurus yesterday regarding their expected availablity. Haven't gotten a response yet.

Dammit, I want my GHz and I want them yesterday!

dave.ca · Mar 19, 2005, 03:38 AM

Installed my Sonnet 1.7GHz upgrade card yesterday. Did all the necessary firmware and software installs. Booted into OS 9.2.2 just fine but no go in OS X (10.3.7). Removed Sonnet card and OS X booted fine. Brought it back to Sonnet today (lucky they are only about 2 miles from home!).

Now with the old processor back in my Mac, system says I need to initialize my OS X HD! OS 9 on my other HD boots and works fine. Any ideas?

macaddict0001 · Mar 19, 2005, 12:20 PM

one of the software or firmware installs must have f'd up your 10.3 drive.

Lateralus · Mar 20, 2005, 10:38 PM

Got a response from MacGurus:

"Latest word is early next week. I keep bugging them!

Thanks!"

Ugh... Waiting sucks.

danman · Mar 21, 2005, 09:07 PM

Called Giga today, still waiting for shipment to arrive.

MORT A POTTY · Mar 21, 2005, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by danman:
Called Giga today, still waiting for shipment to arrive.

tha'ts what I was told too. they're waiting on the cards themselves. they were supposed to be there today and they weren't. definitely expected this week though to ship out.

danman · Mar 21, 2005, 09:45 PM

Ok, well instead of both of us harassing them everyday, you call tomorrow and post the status and I'll take Wednesday.

MORT A POTTY · Mar 21, 2005, 10:14 PM

but I called today too... have Lateralus call Tuesday

Lateralus · Mar 21, 2005, 10:18 PM

I have less of a right to call, as I ordered from MacGurus.

May call anyways...

MORT A POTTY · Mar 21, 2005, 10:25 PM

Originally posted by Lateralus:
I have less of a right to call, as I ordered from MacGurus.

May call anyways...

so, they can't get 'em without Giga getting them.

sideus · Mar 22, 2005, 01:04 AM

Ordered a Sonnet 1GHz Encore for my G4 from newegg this weekend. Not bad for $205. Should be here Thursday.

MORT A POTTY · Mar 22, 2005, 01:23 AM

I'dhave sold you my 867Mhz processor for 150

more bang for the buck!

MORT A POTTY · Mar 22, 2005, 10:41 PM

so did anyone end up calling?

danman · Mar 23, 2005, 12:39 AM

The availability of the dual 1.8's on their site changed from "Out of Stock ETA early March" to "Out of Stock ETA Late March."

MORT A POTTY · Mar 23, 2005, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by danman:
The availability of the dual 1.8's on their site changed from "Out of Stock ETA early March" to "Out of Stock ETA Late March."

well considering it IS late march, we're not really any better off

Lateralus · Mar 23, 2005, 01:54 AM

I never called. Worked all day.

I'm not going to do this $700 dance with Giga forever. I'll probably end up cancelling my order within another week or so if it doesn't ship.

Giga should have never announced these upgrades when they did. As it stands now, they have been on Giga's site for more than three months and hardly any have shipped. I honestly suspect that the only reason Giga announced these when they did was to kill some Sonnet and PowerLogix orders, which I'm sure they accomplished.

MORT A POTTY · Mar 23, 2005, 01:56 AM

actually, PowerLogix didn't announce till well after Giga and Sonnet announced, and those two were same day I believe.