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OAW · May 9, 2005, 03:30 PM

Mishakim,

Just click the video in the Now Playing area to play it in a separate window.

OAW

OAW · May 9, 2005, 03:36 PM

Since the ITMS doesn't let you save the videos that it offers for viewing to your HD I can't see a lot of use for this new feature. Unless you are one to scour the net or hit the P2P networks to find music videos I don't see how you can get a lot of mileage out of this enhancement. Even with QT Pro the plugin used on the ITMS doesn't enable you to save the file ... so what's the point of all this?

OAW

albook · May 9, 2005, 03:41 PM

To bad it dont support playing movies in iTunes, and sound trough AirTunes!

Brien · May 9, 2005, 03:46 PM

They seriously need to think about rebranding iTunes, seeing as they keep rolling more and more of the other iApps features into it. It's iTunes. Why the hell are they putting in photo/movie/contact mananaging?

o.O

macintologist · May 9, 2005, 03:46 PM

The thing is, if Apple releases a video iPod, I bet:

1) It won't play any .avi files, and therefore none of my backuped Divx movies.

2) Even if I can convert my backed up movies to .mov using the Divx quicktime plugin, the video iPod won't support 3rd party video plugins.

So Apple can take its video iPod and **** themselves with it.

SpaceMonkey · May 9, 2005, 04:05 PM

5 things Apple should have done to iTunes before adding video playback:

1) Add AAC VBR encoding
2) Allow for nested playlists
3) Add support for multiple libraries
4) Add more refined batch-encoding capabilities, so that I won't necessarily get a bunch of duplicate library entries when transcoding from WAV to Lossless, or Lossless to AAC, etc.
5) Improve the Soundtrack feature enough that I might actually trust it to mess around with all of my files.

Webscreamer · May 9, 2005, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by OwlBoy

lets not cry about quicktime pro here.

-Owl

Well, if you want, I see Apple has the QT7 serial on every computer. Pretty easy to copy if someone wanted to.

OAW · May 9, 2005, 04:16 PM

More crappiness ....

The "Play Video" checkbox in advanced preferences is a tad bit uh ... "misleading". Let's say I didn't want to use iTunes to playback video at all. So I go and uncheck this option. One would think that the View Fullscreen button would go away right? Not! More importantly, one would think that you wouldn't be able to play any of the movie files at all right? Not! What happens is that the file plays .... only you hear the music track only and the Now Playing area remains blank. But if you click in this area you can see the video playing in the separate window. Or if you click the fullscreen button you see it like that. The preference is essentially not respected by the app. WTF is Apple thinking with this half-assed implemented feature is beyond me!

OAW

PS: I see why Apple didn't really advertise the availability of this new feature. It doesn't appear to be quite ready for prime time!

Busemann · May 9, 2005, 04:20 PM

Let's hope for a 4.8.1 soon..

typoon · May 9, 2005, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

5 things Apple should have done to iTunes before adding video playback:

1) Add AAC VBR encoding
2) Allow for nested playlists
3) Add support for multiple libraries
4) Add more refined batch-encoding capabilities, so that I won't necessarily get a bunch of duplicate library entries when transcoding from WAV to Lossless, or Lossless to AAC, etc.
5) Improve the Soundtrack feature enough that I might actually trust it to mess around with all of my files.

WHo knows that might be in iTunes 5. Lets only hope

bmedina · May 9, 2005, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

5 things Apple should have done to iTunes before adding video playback:

1) Add AAC VBR encoding
2) Allow for nested playlists

Agreed. Gapless would have been nice, too.

Here I was, hoping for a major upgrade to iTunes 5. Now I know I'll have a much longer wait than I was hoping for.

typoon · May 9, 2005, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by bmedina

Agreed. Gapless would have been nice, too.

Here I was, hoping for a major upgrade to iTunes 5. Now I know I'll have a much longer wait than I was hoping for.

Gives them something to release at MacWorld.

york28 · May 9, 2005, 04:39 PM

Video? Screw that. I'll keep 4.7 and my iPod Download, thank you very much.

Krypton · May 9, 2005, 04:49 PM

They've disabled the ability to save music videos using AppleScript.

Bummer.

iDriveX · May 9, 2005, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Krypton

They've disabled the ability to save music videos using AppleScript.

Bummer.

You could always do what I do. As the Quicktime movie is loading do a spotlight search for all files created in the last 24 hours. Most likely, the largest file (after the video is half way done loading) is the quicktime cache file. As soon as the movie is done loading, drag that file to your desktop and rename it before the system can delete it.

You got cho movie bro!

JayTay · May 9, 2005, 05:44 PM

Bye bye iSync:

Cadaver · May 9, 2005, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by JayTay

Bye bye iSync:

What?!

No now I have to freaking launch iTunes just to make sure my contacts are up to date on my iPod?

Stupid.

Steve is drinking his own damn Kool-Aid again.

JayTay · May 9, 2005, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Cadaver

What?!

No now I have to freaking launch iTunes just to make sure my contacts are up to date on my iPod?

Stupid.

Steve is drinking his own damn Kool-Aid again.

Actually, I'm the opposite I was having to open iSync every time I connected my iPod as I only ever connected to update my music. This is a lot easier for me.

d0ubled0wn · May 9, 2005, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Cadaver

What?!

No now I have to freaking launch iTunes just to make sure my contacts are up to date on my iPod?

What?!

You mean you don't leave iTunes open all the time like everyone else?

Cadaver · May 9, 2005, 06:29 PM

Its really very stupid how the whole syncing mess works in 10.4...

Now I've got to deal with three different sync methods.

iSync.app for devices (like my bluetooth cellphone)
iSync .mac for .mac services
iTunes for iPod

If you leave iSync.app running, it will sync the contacts when the .mac sync occurs... Except now if my phone doesn't happen to be in range, I get an error dialog on the screen. Dumb.

I mean, really, even Active Sync for Windows XP isn't this retarded.

Weyland-Yutani · May 9, 2005, 06:45 PM

iSync - one click and all your gizmos synced. Boom.

Now...

3 different locations to do the same thing.. I don't think this is progress. Quite the oposite.

willed · May 9, 2005, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Cadaver

Its really very stupid how the whole syncing mess works in 10.4...

Now I've got to deal with three different sync methods.

iSync.app for devices (like my bluetooth cellphone)
iSync .mac for .mac services
iTunes for iPod

If you leave iSync.app running, it will sync the contacts when the .mac sync occurs... Except now if my phone doesn't happen to be in range, I get an error dialog on the screen. Dumb.

I mean, really, even Active Sync for Windows XP isn't this retarded.

Quoted for emphasis. In fact, I think I may even send your post to Apple Feedback!

jersey · May 9, 2005, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by Weyland-Yutani

iSync - one click and all your gizmos synced. Boom.

Now...

3 different locations to do the same thing.. I don't think this is progress. Quite the oposite.

this.....is annoying. had i seen that, i wouldnt have updated. i dont want to sync via itunes. i want to use isync, because i like it.

gggggrrrrrrr.........

you should at least have the option to choose between the 2.

MusicMan · May 9, 2005, 09:22 PM

My iTunes 4.8 is hung. After the license agreement, it just sits there, and I can't force-quit it, either. Spotlight and menumeters are also hung.

mishap · May 9, 2005, 09:22 PM

for me, i dont see the point of iSync anymore

.Mac syncs automatically every day and now iTunes syncs my contacts, caledars, photos, and music at once.

Makes a lot more sense--please stop caring.

chabig · May 9, 2005, 09:29 PM

The ability to sync calendars and contacts is a Tiger only feature. iSync still lives in Panther.

Chris

osxisfun · May 9, 2005, 09:31 PM

there is a guy at macrumors that swears with 3 sources that steve will show a new airport express - with an s video out at WWDC.

If true. i would say this is why 4.8 has video stuff in it?

chabig · May 9, 2005, 09:32 PM

This is the year of HD, after all.

alphasubzero949 · May 9, 2005, 10:24 PM

For those who have problems getting iTunes 4.8 through software update:

Did you do an archive and install of Tiger? Your receipt for iTunes would have been deleted.

One2meny · May 9, 2005, 10:59 PM

Anybody notice how iTunes starts opening up on its own when you visit certain web-sites? Go check out http://www.newgrounds.com

Anytime I visit that site, iTunes 4.8 loads up and goes to the Music Store. Real pain in the butt. Haven't had it happen with any other web-site yet...yet.

Ricky · May 9, 2005, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by One2meny

Anybody notice how iTunes starts opening up on its own when you visit certain web-sites? Go check out http://www.newgrounds.com

Anytime I visit that site, iTunes 4.8 loads up and goes to the Music Store. Real pain in the butt. Haven't had it happen with any other web-site yet...yet.

Hmmm, interesting. The site may have put some kind of script that launches the Music Store and then gives them some credit if you were to buy a song or something along those lines.

Stradlater · May 10, 2005, 12:10 AM

iTunes is selling videos now; here's an example:

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/M...temId=62654823

OwlBoy · May 10, 2005, 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by chabig

This is the year of HD, after all.

Through S-video? My ass

-Owl

lngtones · May 10, 2005, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by Stradlater

iTunes is selling videos now; here's an example:

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/M...temId=62654823

for getting closer to movie store

for crappy interface

Noonster · May 10, 2005, 05:24 AM

Cheers for the info on this and the screenshots

I will download it tonight and let you know what i find.

angelmb · May 10, 2005, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by lngtones

for getting closer to movie store

for crappy interface

Where could I check a screenshot?, I just get:

"Your request could not be completed.

The item you've requested is not currently available in the Spanish store."

Oh well, my iTunes is still 4.7.1 and 4.8 is not available in Software Update

WJMoore · May 10, 2005, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by angelmb

Where could I check a screenshot?, I just get:

"Your request could not be completed.

The item you've requested is not currently available in the Spanish store."

Oh well, my iTunes is still 4.7.1 and 4.8 is not available in Software Update

Screenshots: http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...50#post2518350

funkboy · May 10, 2005, 09:56 AM

The new Dave Matthews Band album comes with a video. The Gorillaz "Feel Good Inc" EP has 4 (FOUR!) videos that come with it - 99 cents for the song *and* 4 videos!

I like this new idea...

zelig2 · May 10, 2005, 11:15 AM

Can anyone tell me if 4.8 has the same restrictions on streaming that 4.7 had? I want to upgrade here at work but we have lots of people sharing their iTunes collections. Only allowing 5 connections per day doesn't work for us real well.

Kristoff · May 10, 2005, 11:28 AM

Is this thing in Software Update yet?

Goldfinger · May 10, 2005, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Kristoff

Is this thing in Software Update yet?

Nope.

OwlBoy · May 10, 2005, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by funkboy

The new Dave Matthews Band album comes with a video. The Gorillaz "Feel Good Inc" EP has 4 (FOUR!) videos that come with it - 99 cents for the song *and* 4 videos!

I like this new idea...

Yes, the music videos as added content rocks!

They could never sell them solo tho.. imo.

-Owl

alphasubzero949 · May 10, 2005, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Stradlater

iTunes is selling videos now; here's an example:

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/M...temId=62654823

No wonder why they're going out of their way to prevent downloading of the music videos in their gallery.

The videos being sold aren't even that great to begin with.

mitchell_pgh · May 10, 2005, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

2) Allow for nested playlists

This is the only issue I have with iTunes. Anything more then 50 or so playlists and the whole GUI falls apart.

Don Pickett · May 10, 2005, 04:08 PM

Also fixes a security vulnerability.

Noonster · May 10, 2005, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by alphasubzero949

For those who have problems getting iTunes 4.8 through software update:

Did you do an archive and install of Tiger? Your receipt for iTunes would have been deleted.

Thanks for the info... I wondered what was going on.
- Have downloaded it from the apple site

Are there other programs effected like this after an Archive and Install??

Krypton · May 10, 2005, 05:35 PM

Can someone else tell me what happens when they view 2 or more music videos in large format (preferably someone with 512Mb of Ram or less)?

Here, my hard drive is thrashing a lot - the videos aren't downloaded to /tmp anymore, so as to prevent 'stealing' I suppose

bmedina · May 10, 2005, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh

This is the only issue I have with iTunes. Anything more then 50 or so playlists and the whole GUI falls apart.

So true. I like to make a playlist for new CDs I import, but it becomes unmanageable very quickly.

TETENAL · May 10, 2005, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by bmedina

So true. I like to make a playlist for new CDs I import, but it becomes unmanageable very quickly.

Why woud you want to make playlists for CDs when iTunes has an album browser already?

OAW · May 10, 2005, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by TETENAL

Why woud you want to make playlists for CDs when iTunes has an album browser already?

Yeah that is kinda redundant.

OAW