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olePigeon · Jan 19, 2011, 07:08 PM

Looks like I'm 0-2. If I keep this up, maybe I can go to the Super Bowl.

lpkmckenna · Jan 19, 2011, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by Shaddim

Catwoman and Bane, the movie ends with Wayne getting his back broken.

Kind of a downer ending for a trilogy.

I hope we still get Scarecrow, with a bigger role than in the Dark Knight.

Hathaway is a great choice for Catwoman.

Shaddim · Jan 19, 2011, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

Kind of a downer ending for a trilogy.

I hope we still get Scarecrow, with a bigger role than in the Dark Knight.

Hathaway is a great choice for Catwoman.

Maybe not, I think they're setting up for four films and not telling anyone.

Edit: and yeah, I completely pulled that guess out of my ass. Pretty cool, though.

ajprice · Jan 20, 2011, 03:30 AM

Is the thing about Hudson Leick as HQ official, made up, or officially made up by olepigeon?

Brien · Jan 20, 2011, 03:41 AM

I dunno. I couldn't find any info about that, just the other two.

First of all, The Dark Knight Rises is a a terrible name for a film. But what do I know.

Secondly, Nolan has said he wants to end the franchise after a 3rd film. Killing/maiming Batman seems an easy way out.

finboy · Jan 20, 2011, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

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2.03x10^9 looks more sinister.

Jawbone54 · Jan 20, 2011, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Brien

First of all, The Dark Knight Rises is a a terrible name for a film. But what do I know.

Batman Begins > Dark Knight > Dark Knight Rises. Dumb, dumb, dumb. I'm not crazy about the name, but I'll show up for any Nolan Batman flick.

Secondly, Nolan has said he wants to end the franchise after a 3rd film. Killing/maiming Batman seems an easy way out.

I wish it would go 5. Best superhero franchise of all-time.

The Final Dakar · Jan 20, 2011, 12:48 PM

Five? Why 5?

olePigeon · Jan 20, 2011, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by ajprice

Is the thing about Hudson Leick as HQ official, made up, or officially made up by olepigeon?

It's made up by me. I was just stating what I'd like to see for a sequel.

Jawbone54 · Jan 20, 2011, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Five? Why 5?

Seems like the amount of time that Bale could still pull Batman/Wayne off age-wise.

Also, I'd just hate to see it end, even if it has dominated Nolan's time for the better part of a decade now. They're probably tiring of it.

The Final Dakar · Jan 20, 2011, 02:24 PM

It's be far more interesting if they ended it here and then reunited for Dark Knight Returns in 20.

Rumor · Jan 20, 2011, 09:58 PM

Dark Knight Rises sounds like a parody porn.

lpkmckenna · Jan 20, 2011, 10:12 PM

While Dark Knight Rises will be the last Nolan Batman, the studio will continue to make Batman films. No studio just leaves money on the table like that.

Brien · Jan 20, 2011, 10:41 PM

I'm pretty sure Bale said he's out if Nolan doesn't direct, though.

lpkmckenna · Jan 20, 2011, 11:34 PM

That's fine. Bale's not essential. No one is essential, really. While Oldman and Caine really brought gravitas to the films, an entirely new cast would be just fine for the post-Nolan era.

Brien · Jan 21, 2011, 12:15 AM

Translation: they'd suck.

Shaddim · Jan 21, 2011, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by Brien

Translation: they'd suck.

Bale isn't that great, there are quite a few actors who could do a better job.

The Final Dakar · Jan 21, 2011, 11:36 AM

Heh, I'm under the impression these is some consensus that these are some of the best superhero movies to date, so the implication that whoever follows up on this should do "just fine" is amusing as hell. Yeah, Nolan directed the best Batmans by circumstance.

(I'd also like to aim my sights for something better than "just fine")

I suppose the next Spiderman movie (and the already horrific looking X-Men first class), should give us an idea how easy that job would be.

andi*pandi · Jan 21, 2011, 11:44 AM

Rebooting every other year with new actors is annoying. Batman isn't bond. The look and feel changes with the director and the cast.

The Final Dakar · Jan 21, 2011, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by andi*pandi

Rebooting every other year with new actors is annoying. Batman isn't bond. The look and feel changes with the director and the cast.

Ex: Tim Burton vs. Joel Schumacher.

ShortcutToMoncton · Jan 21, 2011, 11:50 AM

Just lose the annoying Batvoice

The Final Dakar · Jan 21, 2011, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by ShortcutToMoncton

Just lose the annoying Batvoice

YouTube - The Dark Knight- Joker Interrogation Scene Spoof

iLikebeer · Jan 21, 2011, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

Batman Begins > Dark Knight > Dark Knight Rises. Dumb, dumb, dumb. I'm not crazy about the name, but I'll show up for any Nolan Batman flick.

I wish it would go 5. Best superhero franchise of all-time.

Yes, definitely would love for a pentalogy. I think there will be a surprise after the 3rd one.

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Five? Why 5?

Lots of good fantasy series come in fives. Too often trilogies feel rushed. Good things have a propensity to show up in fives.

besson3c · Jan 21, 2011, 03:04 PM

The Final Dakar · Jan 21, 2011, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by iLikebeer

Lots of good fantasy series come in fives.

Any movies to point to?

Originally Posted by iLikebeer

Too often trilogies feel rushed.

Eh, maybe. Anything standing out in your mind when you say that?

Laminar · Jan 21, 2011, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Any movies to point to?

The Final Dakar · Jan 21, 2011, 03:22 PM

Question withdrawn.

(Also, excellent sig)

P · Jan 21, 2011, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by iLikebeer

Lots of good fantasy series come in fives. Too often trilogies feel rushed. Good things have a propensity to show up in fives.

Trilogies came in to fashion because The Lord of the Rings was printed in three volumes, even though JRR Tolkien himself always insisted that it was six books and a few appendices. I'd love to hear your recommendations for pentalogies, though - the ones that mostly come to mind are ones that people tend to get embarrassed to ever have liked.

moonmonkey · Jan 21, 2011, 11:20 PM

I don't see why it needs villains, I can just be about Batmans day to day life interspersed with thrilling music and sweeping night shots of gotham. Perhaps they can have a scene where alfred is cleaning up the bat cave and finds boogers underneath Bruce Wayne's desk and confronts him about his hygiene, batman breaks down and cries about his parents dying and how he was never taught how to clean properly, Alfred is sad because he realizes that his repressed homosexuality has stopped him from feeling comfortable expressing fatherly emotions towards Batman.

That kind of thing.

Jawbone54 · Jan 21, 2011, 11:56 PM

Bale isn't great in the Bruce Wayne character (I've always thought Keaton, while kind of small, actually had the persona down pretty well), and the Batvoice is over the top, but I hate actor changes, and I've already bought into Bale being Batman/Wayne.

Jawbone54 · Jan 22, 2011, 12:03 AM

Also: villains that I wish would have made an appearance in the next movie other than Bane:

Mr. Zsasz
The Riddler
Black Mask

lpkmckenna · Jan 22, 2011, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by andi*pandi

Rebooting every other year with new actors is annoying. Batman isn't bond. The look and feel changes with the director and the cast.

There's no need for a reboot. Just continue telling new stories with different villains. Reboots are the result of Hollywood's stupid fascination with origin stories. Sony is making a new Spiderman flick with a new origin story; what the eff for?

Hawkeye_a · Jan 22, 2011, 01:02 AM

Anne Hathaway is hot !!

Anne Hathaway in a catsuit...........

lpkmckenna · Jan 22, 2011, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

The Riddler

Has there ever been a riddle from the Riddler that wasn't stupid or obvious? The Riddler seems like a second-rate Joker with dumb poems instead of cruel jokes.

Jawbone54 · Jan 22, 2011, 03:53 AM

Done right (less campy), it could be a pretty interesting character in Nolan's Gotham. That's the point: the last two Batman movies have taken some unrealistic characters and offered a realistic(ish) take on them.

Case in point:

The Final Dakar · Jan 24, 2011, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

There's no need for a reboot. Just continue telling new stories with different villains. Reboots are the result of Hollywood's stupid fascination with origin stories. Sony is making a new Spiderman flick with a new origin story; what the eff for?

I think the problem with that is when all the actors are different, and the feel is different )Thanks to a new director) it seems really weird to pretend this is just a continuation of the previous movies. If you're going to up-end everything, you might as well start from the beginning.

Of course, this does look utterly stupid coming less than a decade from the previous movies, but replacing all the actors and pretending nothing happened looks equally stupid to me.

lpkmckenna · Feb 3, 2011, 04:01 PM

Joseph Gordon Levitt has been cast in The Dark Knight Rises. I think this photo shows us exactly who he'll be:

Since Bane and Catwoman will be the main villains, Joker will probably just be a cameo role.

The Final Dakar · Feb 3, 2011, 04:07 PM

Wasn't everyone clamoring he'd be the Riddler after Dark Knight?

Brien · Feb 3, 2011, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

Joseph Gordon Levitt has been cast in The Dark Knight Rises. I think this photo shows us exactly who he'll be:

Since Bane and Catwoman will be the main villains, Joker will probably just be a cameo role.

Supposedly, the Joker isn't in the movie, and Levitt is Hugo Strange.

The Final Dakar · Feb 4, 2011, 11:38 AM

I forgot about the Strange rumors.