[Drizzt]

Hi guys!

I may get a contract for computer technician in a school board.. and I need a car to get the job!

The interview went quite well.. I'm confident I'll get the job.. so I went car shopping this afternoon

Here's what I got :

Honda Civic 97 silver (I drove it)
120 000 km
4cylindres
manual (5 speeds)
cruise control, door locks and windows electrical
9200$

Honda Accord 92 white (yeuck)
194 000 KM
automatic
6000$

Neon 98 dark green (I tried it!)
50 000 KM
Manual (5 speeds)
6monts warranty
aileron and mags
7900$ (it's growing on me.. really liked it)

Suzuki Swift 98 dark green
77 000 KM
manual (4 speeds)
6000$ (bouah)

So.. I'd like to know if some of you knows particular problems about these particular models.. and what you recommend.

I can get a Jeep Cherookee 88 dark grey, 245 000 KM automatic for free (mom's car) and a red Dodge Colt (hatchback) manual for 2000$.. but I'm less interrested..

[sek929]

Suzuki Swift!

I know nothing about them but its manual and they look better than the other cars on your list.

[euphras]

The Civic is a good choice!

[Drizzt]

**** no.. it's butt ugly

[Drizzt]

Originally posted by euphras:
The Civic is a good choice!

I liked the driving..

What I don't like is the price and the insurances with it..

That's why the Neon come's on top (and I learned manual driving on a Neon.. so I might be biaised )

Still.. the Civic's interresing me..

[OreoCookie]

Get the Civic, it's a reliable car. (According to Germany's biggest car club least repairs and problems.)

[Drizzt]

Keep in mind I have my license since 04/04/02

[Ca$h68]

THE NEON. Easy.

And I'll tell you why:

1. The neon costs less
2. Compare insurance on a neon and a civic. Generally, the civic is much higher.
3. Civics are complete lemming cars. If you want to blend in to everyone else, get a civic, camry, or accord.
4. The neon is faster than the civic
5. The neon is cheaper to repair than all of the cars you listed (and remarkably easy to work on)
6. The neon has AWESOME handling, especially if you bolt on a rear sway bar
7. You can join www.neons.org, www.neonforums.com, and www.flameaway.com
8. You can go to neon conventions and do cool sh*t.
9. Neons are kickass cars for cheap. Extremely good bang for your buck.
10. Since its a 98 the headgasket is the newer MLS (multi layered steel) gasket, so you shouldn't have any headgasket problems

HOWEVER, 7900.00 dollars is waayyy too much for a neon. Give em 5-6 thousand. Or go to KBB and get a quote. Or edmunds.com

If you have any other neon questions, ask I can most likely answer them.

- Ca$h

[Drizzt]

$CAN.. sorry I forgot

[Ca$h68]

So how much is that in american?

ALSO; if you do get the neon I have a set of reverse indiglos I need to get rid of. They're the newest kind; a silvery aluminum face and they light up neon blue at night. Really cool looking, but you have to have a neon with a tach.

- Ca$h

[Nimisys]

first how much cash you got to spend?
Manual or automatic matter to you?
performance oreinetd or beater (or lemming mobile)?
How much cargo room needed?
Milage a concerne?
can you do or would you be willing to do any work on your own?

asnwers those questions and then i can help you better

the jeep is ****ing bulletprof if it has the straight 6 in it

[Drizzt]

Originally posted by Nimisys:
first how much cash you got to spend?
Manual or automatic matter to you?
performance oreinetd or beater (or lemming mobile)?
How much cargo room needed?
Milage a concerne?
can you do or would you be willing to do any work on your own?

asnwers those questions and then i can help you better

the jeep is ****ing bulletprof if it has the straight 6 in it

Manual or automatic.. but prefer manual
I just want something that can get fast easily.. (that's why I don't like the swift) because I'll be on highway quite often
I don't care for cargo
I want something that will last me 3 years easily.. and won't cost an arm on fuel
I know nothing about mechanics

Jeep is Cherookee Laredo 4L '88. Had quite a few repairs, nothing on the motor. There's some stuff trying to fall on it.. it need repairs.. but I don't really like driving trucks..

Worst I could do is take the jeep, sell it and get another car.. but my mom would hate me for that

Cash : No idea what it is on $US.. I'll have a look if it's in the range on the 'net

[Captain Obvious]

About .60 American per Can dollar. I think - i havent looked at todays exchange rates. And get the Civic. All of Ca$h's points are only valid if you ARE Ca$h. Its your first car you'll be rid of it in 2 years when you get the money to buy a new one anyway. All of that crap about being able to fix it and how fast it is doesn't matter if its just a commuter car. The Civic has the least probability of breaking down. Unless you can fix cars you are better off with the reliable models.

[Steve]

Originally posted by Ca$h68:
So how much is that in american?

$7900CAN is about $3.84 US.

[Ca$h68]

Don't listen to Captain Obvious. Neons are extremely reliable, despite what CR wants you to believe. Get a neon, you won't be dissapointed. And destroying riced out civics is entertaining.

- Ca$h

[Nimisys]

Originally posted by Drizzt:


Manual or automatic.. but prefer manual
I just want something that can get fast easily.. (that's why I don't like the swift) because I'll be on highway quite often
I don't care for cargo
I want something that will last me 3 years easily.. and won't cost an arm on fuel
I know nothing about mechanics

Jeep is Cherookee Laredo 4L '88. Had quite a few repairs, nothing on the motor. There's some stuff trying to fall on it.. it need repairs.. but I don't really like driving trucks..

Worst I could do is take the jeep, sell it and get another car.. but my mom would hate me for that

Cash : No idea what it is on $US.. I'll have a look if it's in the range on the 'net

look for a celica or mr2 then

both made by toyota got decent reliablty, can be found fairly easily, more than quick enough and use common enough engines not to cost an arm and a leg in repairs. and niether is a lemming, coocke cutter econobox.

honda's are lemming mobiles, if your are a lemming get one, otherwise a protege may not be abod choice iether

another option, slightly less atracive at first woul be to hold onto the cherokee for a few checks then buy something a bnt better than what you can afford for now

[Drizzt]

I won't be able to get better even if I hold on the Cherookee..

I had an other look at the Civic.. it's out of class.

too high KM, bumper cracked, to pricey..

I found a Proteg� 97.. a bit too big for nothing..

And.. I had an other look at the Neon.. it looks clean and well.. I found another one.. I'll have a look at it tomorrow..

I just hope I'll get the contract

BTW, I learnt standard driving on a Neon, and I rode it a couple of time.. I really like it's power and handling.. I felt better in the Neon than in the Civic too..

[Ca$h68]

Go neon. You won't regret it. Just make sure to pay as little as possible; neons have HORRIBLE resale value, so any money you save in the initial purchase will help when you sell it.

- Ca$h

[daimoni]

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[Nimisys]

why neiher do mazdas, just leads to inexpensive sportscars quicker

[DKeithA]

Audi is the only way to go.

[Drizzt]

I just saw 2 Neons, 1 Civic and 1 Accent.

Blue Neon seams good.. Green seams better (ROAD TOAD!!!!!)

Civic look like betten to hell, red Neon too (too old also).

Accent.. blech.. not too bad.. but damn breaking was awerfull..

[amsalpemkcus]

Move close to the school and get yourself a bicycle. You will save a bundle.

[Drizzt]

Originally posted by amsalpemkcus:
Move close to the school and get yourself a bicycle. You will save a bundle.

It's not "the school" but "the schools".. and they are miles appart (sometimes not even in the same city)

That's why I need a car

[Drizzt]

Well.. I'm buying the green Neon!

Why?

Easy..

I got it inspected.. it's almost like new! (except the fact that it gots 4 new tires and 4 new brakes)

There was some little problems...

• The head gasket was leaking
• one break was not installed well
• the car needed to be aligned..
• There was 2 rubber parts that was starting to dry off

BUT!

I brought that to the place where I was buying the car.. and he singed on the contract that he was going to change the gasket, reinstall the brake, realign the car and change the 2 rubber parts (at no additionnal costs)!

The car will be like new! I'll shurely do 3 years with that?!

I was told, the trick to keep the head gasket is to change the prestone once every year or two years.. that I will do

But now I'm insomniac because I want my car... I'll probably have it wednesday

[Drizzt]

*bump* (because the forums f*ucked up..)

[Drizzt]

*rebump*

[Drizzt]

Ze want meine Neon!!!!!!

[Drizzt]

I read that the Neons had a McPherson suspension.. is that the same as the Civics?

[Nimisys]

what year is the neon, and make sure they but the new style gasket on...


congrats on the new car, hope you enjoy it

[usedmac]

Neons are great cars. Good, smart purchase. I commend you for not giving in to all these followers that want Civics because they think they are cool. Civics are way overpriced for what you get. The Neon is reliable, and fun transportaion for a bargain price. Congratulations on your new car!

[Drizzt]

Thanks!

Still 2 days

Like I said (well.. I think I did).. there was some little problems found..

Head Gasket starting to leak, gonna be changed, 1 brake not well put, gonna be ajusted, alignment.. gonna be solved, prestone will be changed (this will help to keep the head gasket) and 2 small rubber parts will be changed..

I should be OK for a couple of years

The Neon's a 98..

I'm 20.. so insurances costs a lot! The Neon 98 is the same price as a Civic 97 for me.. I thought I'd better get a Neon and have a newer car (with 70000km less in the body).

[Nimisys]

think what my rx-7 does to my insurance at the same age

[CaseCom]

Originally posted by usedmac:
I commend you for not giving in to all these followers that want Civics because they think they are cool. Civics are way overpriced for what you get.

In this thread at least, people were recommending the Civic because it's reliable, not because it's "cool."

Even if it's not "cool," my '96 LX sedan has been a great car for me. Well, except for that one time the exhaust pipe broke on I-90 in Illinois.

Personally, though, I'm not a big fan of the look of the new Civics. I like the 1996-2000 style better.

[Vanquish]

My choice: The Civic: it's reliable (but ugly) (you even get cruis control on this one)

Accord: no, because it probably has a 4-speed auto but if it has a five-speed auto this one could be a good choice (too lazy to check what type of transmission it has, sorry)

Neon: what's that ?

Suzuki: Not until hell freezes over !

[PowerMatt]

Civics, Accords, and Camrys are all too common? I see just as many Neons. And the Civics Accords and Camrys are much more reliable. Check into reliability statistics on each of your choices. If your neon is already leaking at the head gasket and had other problems those should be red flags up to wazoo. If you are really sold on the look of the neon and don't mind being stranded in on a nice brisk January morning in Canada, go for it. Oh, you also won't be able to get crap for it if you sell it. Another car to consider is a Cavalier. The 1993-current models are darn reliable. THere are plenty of them on the road as well, if that makes a difference. Chevy Malibus are also reliable cars but are pretty plain, however you can find them nicely equipped (leather, etc) for reasonable prices. Stay away from Pontiacs, not because they are bad cars, but because they are usually bought by younger types who like to drive the junk out of them and then sell 'em. Oh, the Suzuki Swift is the same as a Geo Metro.

[Ca$h68]

Originally posted by Drizzt:
I read that the Neons had a McPherson suspension.. is that the same as the Civics?

Yes, they have macpherson struts up front, just like new civics. Older civics has a front double wishbone suspension but...eh.. it doesn't really help them much.

- Ca$h

[Ca$h68]

This should be fun.
>cracks knuckles<


Originally posted by PowerMatt:
Civics, Accords, and Camrys are all too common?

Yes.

I see just as many Neons.

I doubt it. You probably just notice them more, because they're unique. Camrys, Accords, and other boring cars probably just blend in so you don't notice half of them.

And the Civics Accords and Camrys are much more reliable.

Bullshit. I've gone 100k in my neon (hard miles) and had almost no problems. Shawn Henry drove from Texas up to IL with 12 lbs of boost without any problems. I know HUNDREDS of neon enthusiasts, and neons are EXTREMELY reliable.

Check into reliability statistics on each of your choices.

You mean biased crap like Consumer Reports? PUH-LEASE. Hell, if CR got word that the new MINI has a chrysler engine they'd **** a brick. Basically, over at CR it works like this: If its foreign, we give a it a good review. If its domestic, we hate it. Its true. CR publicly admitted to lying about the neon's acceleration numbers, they still claim the headgasket is an issue (yeah right) even though it was fixed in 97-98. Drizzt, you must have an early 98. Decode your VIN, I Betcha its an early 98.

If your neon is already leaking at the head gasket and had other problems those should be red flags up to wazoo.

Like what? Can you name one other 'so called problem' with the neon? No. You can't. The transmission is strong, the electrical system is great, the engine is very durable, and the suspension kicks ass. So what 'OTHER' problems are you referring to? Answer. Oh wait, you can't, you're full of ****. Dang.

If you are really sold on the look of the neon and don't mind being stranded in on a nice brisk January morning in Canada, go for it.

My neon has never stranded me. I went 112 mph for almost AN HOUR when I went outwest. I drove it 24 hours non stop to Miami, then another 12 hours down to keywest. AND BACK. No problems. Needed 2/3s a quart of oil (rear main seal is leaking a little bit).

Oh, you also won't be able to get crap for it if you sell it.

Oh my god! You said something true! However, you also won't be able to get crap for a cavalier, and you're saving a LOT of money by buying a neon in the first place. What's better? To spend 10,000 on a civic and sell it for 5? Or to spend 5,000 on a neon and sell it for 2?

Another car to consider is a Cavalier.

White trash alert. Warning. Mullets and gigantic chevy stickers ahead! Warning!

The 1993-current models are darn reliable. THere are plenty of them on the road as well, if that makes a difference.

So if there are lots of cavaliers (like you said) that makes them reliable, but when there are lots of neons (like you said) that makes them unreliable?


What a complete dumbass.

- Ca$h

[Vanquish]

*blablablablabla....*

[VRL]

BMW

[Drizzt]

I'll have my Neon in 2 days..

I'm really looking forward for it..

I know there may be little problems with the car.. but what the heck.. it's a car.. like any car.. it breaks sometimes and needs piece replacement!

[Ca$h68]

Does it have a tachometer? I have something for you, cheap.

- Ca$h