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digitaljames · Jul 25, 2004, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by xeleven:
dj, not for release? Max said no? what all from that theme is custom made? if its just copy and paste i might try and put it together.

not for release....yet. I haven't asked max yet and he's very busy these days.....I'm still dicking around with it anyway...but yes, 90% of it is copy and paste.

justinp · Jul 25, 2004, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by NetworkShadow:
So are you going to torture us with your cool widget by not telling us were to get it?

Yes

I was going to just say "You can get it when you download the theme it goes with" but that would be kinda mean because the only thing I have done are the titlebars/background colors/metal windows.

I may put it up for download when I refine it a bit more. It won't be 'done' though.

(Edited in quote for clarity)

digitaljames · Jul 25, 2004, 12:11 AM

Originally posted by fireside:
i hope DaMacMan allows distribution of his work, or else an impostor is running COTL Studios and we're downloading themes DaMacMan don't want us to download!

Huh? ImDaMac is behind COTL....not DaMacMan...

He's ok with *himself* allowing the downloads of *his* work...he is not ok with allowing *pieces* of his themes to be bundled alongside of other peoples pieces and then being distributed without his control or proper credit....at least that's what I'm getting from it...

fireside · Jul 25, 2004, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by digitaljames:
Huh? ImDaMac is behind COTL....not DaMacMan...

oops.

He's ok with *himself* allowing the downloads of *his* work...he is not ok with allowing *pieces* of his themes to be bundled alongside of other peoples pieces and then being distributed without his control or proper credit....at least that's what I'm getting from it...

yeah i know what you mean, you just used the wrong word.

demograph68 · Jul 25, 2004, 02:41 AM

Desktop Pic
Milk Mod
Icons by me

xeleven · Jul 25, 2004, 04:01 AM

thats really nice. i remember when shape shifter wouldn't show brushed correctly, and the texture looked awesome.

Fonzie · 06:40 AM

edited..... didn't want to cause anymore trouble. Thanks Makki for pointing it out to me

And sorry to all the nationalities I've offended. esp. the Icelandic, Dutch, Finnish and Afrikaan + the English language. Phew.

digitaljames · Jul 25, 2004, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by xeleven:
dj, not for release? Max said no? what all from that theme is custom made? if its just copy and paste i might try and put it together.

Ok, I've made the permission requests over at funmac, lets see how it shakes out......

Randman · Jul 25, 2004, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by digitaljames:
Why is it that an artist, who decides not to allow distribution of his work , is considered an ass, jealous, selfish, etc?

Someone has full right to allow or refuse permission to release a theme. But to be honest, if someone is inspired bby someone else's theme, makes a mod and actually offers something fresh in the theme, then does the right thing and asks permission, then the original themer should see that as a compliment and not competition.
The modded theme could easily be hosted on the original COTL website and full credit given where credit is due.
So, why not give permission? Unless the original themer was working on a current variation and didn't want competition. Or it could be insecurity because someone else has done something with the original theme and other people were interested in it. Personally, as a designer, if someone want to take a shot at something I'm already done with and can make some change for the better, why not? The original design is still mine and the other versions don't make mine any less important.

Pix0r · Jul 25, 2004, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by Fonzie:
Sh�t talk, eh ? I can't think of a worse spoken language other that Dutch. well, maybe Icelandic and Finnish and Afrikaan(sp?)

Afrikaan(s)

For the record, I feel the same way about duch

digitaljames · Jul 25, 2004, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by Randman:
So, why not give permission?

Why does he have to have a reason? Many reasons, arguments and points can be made for releasing modifications. It his personal property and he chooses not to. It wasn't 5 minutes after he released XMetal that people were crying and bitching about the similarities with IStyle....

Its a theme, it ain't gonna happen and ImDaMac is still a good guy and themer....and i've never even talked to him...

<puts the artists rights placard down>

Makki · Jul 25, 2004, 02:05 PM

Slick Orange
Byte Controller
TigerIPod widget (pumping out some ZZ Top)
Mini Weather widget
Various dock Icons
Slick Orange Icontainer
My Collection of photos from the Classic & Sportster RoadShow

Makki

mrfrost · Jul 25, 2004, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by justinp:

Lovely desktop pic there justinp. Does it only come in that color?

ARENA · Jul 25, 2004, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by demograph68:

Desktop Pic
Milk Mod
Icons by me

Your icons are nice, but where can i get the rest of the greyscale set?

demograph68 · Jul 25, 2004, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by ARENA:
Your icons are nice, but where can i get the rest of the greyscale set?

As for apps like safari? I just modified the ICNS with iconographer to greyscale. As for anything else, I'm still working on them.

justinp · Jul 25, 2004, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by mrfrost:
Lovely desktop pic there justinp. Does it only come in that color?

It's the color I changed it to, to go with my iTunes widget. If you wanted it in a different color, just let me know.

mrfrost · Jul 25, 2004, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by justinp:
It's the color I changed it to, to go with my iTunes widget. If you wanted it in a different color, just let me know.

I'd love to have it in a different colour. What does the original look like?
Feel free to send me a mail at mrfrost [at] gmail dot com

justinp · Jul 25, 2004, 03:42 PM

Hit Command+Option+Control+8 while you're looking at the screenshot, and that's what the original looks like.

fireside · Jul 25, 2004, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by digitaljames:
It wasn't 5 minutes after he released XMetal that people were crying and bitching about the similarities with IStyle....

so he's jealous

fireside · Jul 25, 2004, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by digitaljames:
Just to piss off the Tiger haters......

Tiger Cappuccino
Wall by Whistler (customize.org)

i looked on customize.org, but i can't find that wallpaper. any help?

mrfrost · Jul 25, 2004, 04:56 PM

Originally posted by justinp:
Hit Command+Option+Control+8 while you're looking at the screenshot, and that's what the original looks like.

Just sent you a mail back but your email addy seems to be down for some reason.

Anyway, B/W is just fine.

justinp · Jul 25, 2004, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by mrfrost:
Just sent you a mail back but your email addy seems to be down for some reason.

Anyway, B/W is just fine.

I just got the mail... weird.

digitaljames · Jul 25, 2004, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by fireside:
so he's jealous

Why? He made iStyle too.....

Can you be jealous of yourself?

digitaljames · Jul 25, 2004, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by fireside:
i looked on customize.org, but i can't find that wallpaper. any help?

Wait....aren't you one of those Tiger haters?.....

Nano Wallpaper

nooon · Jul 25, 2004, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by fireside:
i looked on customize.org, but i can't find that wallpaper. any help?

That's from the NANO Suite by 4imp. Get'em HERE.

edit: argh. gotta type faster!

digitaljames · Jul 25, 2004, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by nooon:
[Bedit: argh. gotta type faster!

[/B]

7 minute spread? Much, much faster.....

fireside · Jul 25, 2004, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by digitaljames:
Wait....aren't you one of those Tiger haters?.....

Nano Wallpaper

! i am not a Tiger hater. i just think you're going a little overboard with all the Tiger mods.

and that isn't even by Whistler, you lier

digitaljames · Jul 25, 2004, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by fireside:
! i am not a Tiger hater. i just think you're going a little overboard with all the Tiger mods.

and that isn't even by Whistler, you lier

My bad, one of the walls in the pack has whistl3rs name in it and I got confused....by the way, its *liar*

P.S. I have ceased and desisted from the Tiger campaign...making a 4imp theme now and the metal bevels are giving me fits....

Mac Guru · Jul 25, 2004, 10:56 PM

Ashen Light Menubar
Adium .63
Konfabulator: MiniClock, MiniBattery, MiniAirport, MiniWeather, Haiku Generator
Wall: Rain from a Car (don't know where I got it)

Mac Guru

Makki · Jul 26, 2004, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by Mac Guru

Mac Guru:

That is an awesome desktop you have there my friend, great job

Wallpaper is sweet would like to be able to find it.
Makki

fireside · Jul 26, 2004, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by digitaljames:
My bad, one of the walls in the pack has whistl3rs name in it and I got confused....by the way, its *liar*

well maybe uh you were laying down?

or is it lying down?

P.S. I have ceased and desisted from the Tiger campaign...making a 4imp theme now and the metal bevels are giving me fits....

whats a 4imp theme?

Banghazi · Jul 26, 2004, 01:15 AM

I got a Mazda RX-8 promotional DVD in the mail - included in the tiny rotary engine-shaped disc was a couple of desktops, & I noticed one looks pretty slick with Max's Tiger theme, minus the menubar shadow - checkitout.

digitaljames · Jul 26, 2004, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by fireside:
well maybe uh you were laying down?

or is it lying down?

whats a 4imp theme? [/B]

The minimal style of graphics done by the guys that made the Nano Series stuff. Imrik, Heylove and Whistl3r........

Gerrit Vanoppen · Jul 26, 2004, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by digitaljames:

P.S. I have ceased and desisted from the Tiger campaign...making a 4imp theme now and the metal bevels are giving me fits....

[/B]

4imp is a favorite of mine. May I say I look forward to seeing your work, and hope that one day you'll share it ? For now I use a "stripped" Plaster (minimalized Finder elements), but I want less less less...
Good luck !

crford · Jul 26, 2004, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by Makki:
Mac Guru:

That is an awesome desktop you have there my friend, great job
Wallpaper is sweet would like to be able to find it.
Makki

I'm not Mac Guru, but I'll answer for him.

http://www.pixelgirlpresents.com/ima...by_car1600.jpg

bitfactory · Jul 26, 2004, 10:57 AM

justin - thanks much for the emailed desktop!

Stuphalina · Jul 26, 2004, 12:04 PM

Lemme sneak in here with my new one.
Click to see... Duh.

Holigen · Jul 26, 2004, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by Spykes424:

Wow, whered you get that wallpaper? Thats awesome.

Makki · Jul 26, 2004, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by crford:
I'm not Mac Guru, but I'll answer for him.

http://www.pixelgirlpresents.com/ima...by_car1600.jpg

Hey thnx crford

Makki · Jul 26, 2004, 02:42 PM

Tiger TiSkin mod by DigitalJames
Vapourlover wallpaper from Sci Fi.com
XMetal IContainer & 4 Balls icons and various others
Tiger Cllock widget
Mini Weather widget
TiSkin ITunes widget i am working on slowly

fireside · Jul 26, 2004, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by digitaljames:
The minimal style of graphics done by the guys that made the Nano Series stuff. Imrik, Heylove and Whistl3r........

which one?

Me0ni6 · 07:01 PM

last set

Mac Guru · Jul 26, 2004, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by crford:
I'm not Mac Guru, but I'll answer for him.

http://www.pixelgirlpresents.com/ima...by_car1600.jpg

Thanks!

I knew I got it from somewhere like that

Mac Guru

Mrjinglesusa · Jul 26, 2004, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by digitaljames:
Why does he have to have a reason? Many reasons, arguments and points can be made for releasing modifications. It his personal property and he chooses not to. It wasn't 5 minutes after he released XMetal that people were crying and bitching about the similarities with IStyle....

Its a theme, it ain't gonna happen and ImDaMac is still a good guy and themer....and i've never even talked to him...

<puts the artists rights placard down>

I'll bring up a point I have made in the past regarding this whole permission issue. I have yet to hear anyone answer this reasonably. Did the themers ask APPLE'S permission to make mods of THEIR theme (Aqua)? The answer is NO. As I understand it, and correct me if I'm wrong, a theme is a modification of Apple's GUI using THEIR resources. How does a theme become "property" of the theme developer? If someone modifies an existing theme and needs the original theme makers permission to distribute, then all themers should need Apple's permission to distribute their themes. Seems a little hypocritical to me.

digitaljames · Jul 26, 2004, 10:43 PM

Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
As I understand it, and correct me if I'm wrong, a theme is a modification of Apple's GUI using THEIR resources. How does a theme become "property" of the theme developer? If someone modifies an existing theme and needs the original theme makers permission to distribute, then all themers should need Apple's permission to distribute their themes. Seems a little hypocritical to me.

"a theme is a modification of Apple's GUI <framework>using the themers resources."

*Most* themes have 100% original graphics and do not use Apples resources at all. Aqua mods obviously do. That being said, ImDaMac is the sole owner of the graphics in his themes.....

digitaljames · Jul 26, 2004, 11:03 PM

4imp Theme (wip)
Wall by Mandolux
Omega Folders (don't ask)
Phazon Remote Widget by justinp

Had to try the new monitor out....

eFX · Jul 27, 2004, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by digitaljames:
4imp Theme (wip)
Wall by Mandolux
Omega Folders (don't ask)
Phazon Remote Widget by justinp

Had to try the new monitor out....

/me pokes the folders

and you know people will ask

you cut them out like some other dude did with Calabi right?

and by the way get some windows open people are useless getting with desktops any less and it'll be the wallpaper *ONLY* thats showing.

justinp · Jul 27, 2004, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by eFX:
...any less and it'll be the wallpaper *ONLY* thats showing.

Hehe, cmove is working on it.

Banghazi · Jul 27, 2004, 12:26 AM

Originally posted by digitaljames:
4imp Theme (wip)
Wall by Mandolux
Omega Folders (don't ask)
Phazon Remote Widget by justinp

Had to try the new monitor out....

is that one of those new cinema displays? 23"?

Gerrit Vanoppen · Jul 27, 2004, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by fireside:
which one?

Besides 4imp, it may be worth checking grayhouse.deviantart as well.