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May 26, 2015, 10:50 AM
 
C'mon, where else can you get such a crazy intersection of entertainment, family, law, religion, sex, and politics in one place?



(Like clown cars you should also not be playing with one if its not yours)
     
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May 26, 2015, 12:40 PM
 
I should hope these people realize the hypocrisy of their ways, but am not holding my breath. They are likely to double-down on their rhetoric.

I'm also astounded at the framing of their statements... Very little about the victims and how they cared for their recovery.
     
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May 26, 2015, 12:42 PM
 
What I've read is the Quiverfull movement is big on patriarchy. Basically, the girls (victims) are practically blamed more than the accused.
     
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May 26, 2015, 01:51 PM
 
Which is begging the question (the real kind).

If the patriarchy is in charge, whose fault is it when their daughters turn out to be trollops?
     
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May 26, 2015, 01:56 PM
 
Why Satan, of course.
     
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May 26, 2015, 02:56 PM
 
All that effort to only side-hug (because front hugs lead to sin). The solution is no hugs, of course.
     
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May 26, 2015, 03:58 PM
 
I forgot about the side-hugs. I'd say who is afraid that front hugs will arouse siblings, but considering this case...
     
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May 26, 2015, 03:58 PM
 
Also, one of the more shocking facts is since that photo, five more kids fell out of the clown car.
     
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May 26, 2015, 11:31 PM
 
To be fair, with that many kids, wouldn't at least one of them be statistically likely to end up a pedophile?
     
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Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
To be fair, with that many kids, wouldn't at least one of them be statistically likely to end up a pedophile?
First reaction: To................be fair?

Second reaction: 1/19 is roughly 5%. The US Population is 319,000,000. 5% of that is ~16,000,000 pedophiles. There are ~800,000 registered sex offenders, not all of which are pedophiles.
     
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May 27, 2015, 07:42 AM
 
Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
To be fair, with that many kids, wouldn't at least one of them be statistically likely to end up a pedophile?
No. Categorically.
     
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May 27, 2015, 07:50 AM
 
Kardashians, Duggars, Honey Boo Boo, I wish all of this family-driven, reality TV bull*hit drama would die already.
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To be fair, with that many kids, wouldn't at least one of them be statistically likely to end up a pedophile?
I've seen too many people categorize the attraction for young, post-pubescents as pedophilia (which is bogus), when in reality it's just normal human biology. Men are naturally attracted to healthy younger women as a means of more effectively passing their genetics. It's one of the most basic human motivations. Is it right? Not within our modern society, where the law is clear on age of consent, but it's easy to see how people can run afoul of such things when you look at it all objectively.

There's a girl at our local library, works part-time, who is as hot as 100 blazing suns; 6' tall and a near-perfect cross between Charlize Theron and Angie Jolie (Swedish, French, Cherokee hybrid), a real stunner... but she's 15 years old. They've been adding something to the water lately, I guess, because girls in my HS never looked like her. I've caught my gaze lingering on her a little too long when I'm around. Damn you, biology!
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May 27, 2015, 08:56 AM
 
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
Kardashians, Duggars, Honey Boo Boo, I wish all of this family-driven, reality TV bull*hit drama would die already.
TLC deserves an award for having two shows that had pedophiles on them. That's what you get for scraping the bottom of the barrel.

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I've seen too many people categorize the attraction for young, post-pubescents as pedophilia (which is bogus),
Pet peeve of mine, but in this case, it's entirely accurate. The youngest was 5.
     
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May 27, 2015, 09:25 AM
 
Even if Josh and his sister were of an age, it would still be unwanted assault. And even if it were consensual, it would still be ew.

Perhaps the better question, Capt, is if Josh would have deviated this way, if he'd had more normally-directed outlets for his hormones and perhaps a better education on sexuality.
     
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May 27, 2015, 09:30 AM
 
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Perhaps the better question, Capt, is if Josh would have deviated this way, if he'd had more normally-directed outlets for his hormones and perhaps a better education on sexuality.
i.e, if he could experiment like a normal teenager with a girl his own age without being watched like a hawk, maybe he wouldn't turn to the only girls he could be unsupervised with? Not a bad theory.
     
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May 27, 2015, 10:22 AM
 
That woman's vagina must be like the Mariana trench.
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Originally Posted by abbaZaba View Post
First reaction: To................be fair?

Second reaction: 1/19 is roughly 5%. The US Population is 319,000,000. 5% of that is ~16,000,000 pedophiles. There are ~800,000 registered sex offenders, not all of which are pedophiles.
Whoosh.
     
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Jun 4, 2015, 02:20 PM
 
So, uh, the interview they did with Megyn (that hurts to type) Kelly had a lot of worrisome content.
     
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Jun 4, 2015, 02:27 PM
 
I feel dirty posting gawker links. Doubly so when they flooded the site with like 5 in a row.
     
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Dammit!

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If we are to believe Gawker, guess who has a bunch o Ashley Madison accounts.

Josh Duggar: Ashley Madison Membership Linked to '19 kids' Star - Hollywood Reporter
     
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What does it say about the the conservative family values movement that this is very believable?
     
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Something doth protest, something, something.
     
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What does it say about the the conservative family values movement that this is very believable?
That you're looking to confirm your bias against it? A few high-profile failures and scumbags aren't indicative of what's going on within an entire movement... or so I was told in the P&N forum.
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That you're looking to confirm your bias against it? A few high-profile failures and scumbags aren't indicative of what's going on within an entire movement... or so I was told in the P&N forum.
I didn't say it was the entire movement. Just that the high-profile people seem to have a failure rate that exceeds their moral beliefs by a wide margin.
     
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Well, you asked, "What does it say about the the conservative family values movement... ". A guess the answer is, "not much". We all know of catastrophic failures in "leadership" within every ideological group, because at some point anyone can fail to live up to expectations. And as sure as they do, right on cue, people from across the aisle are going to tear into the movement like a pack of hyenas going after a wounded bison.
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And as sure as they do, right on cue, people from across the aisle are going to tear into the movement like a pack of hyenas going after a wounded bison.
Ah, we're in Devil's Advocate shit on progressives mode. Carry on.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
What does it say about the the conservative family values movement that this is very believable?
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That you're looking to confirm your bias against it? A few high-profile failures and scumbags aren't indicative of what's going on within an entire movement... or so I was told in the P&N forum.
A little bit of that, but he does have a point with...

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I didn't say it was the entire movement. Just that the high-profile people seem to have a failure rate that exceeds their moral beliefs by a wide margin.
     
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Ah, we're in Devil's Advocate shit on progressives mode. Carry on.
That's a conclusion to jump to. Actually I was thinking about Shaun King, the most recent victim (I guess you can call him that) and thought you might make reference to him. It goes in all directions, you know.
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Actually I was thinking about Shaun King, the most recent victim (I guess you can call him that) and thought you might make reference to him. It goes in all directions, you know.
A. So you believe that, eh? Surprise, surprise.
B. How does being white make him a hypocrite?
     
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A. So you believe that, eh? Surprise, surprise.
B. How does being white make him a hypocrite?
Yep.
He fraudulently applied for, and received, an Oprah scholarship as a black person and has identified as black ever since he turned 18, despite the fact both of his parents are white (Dolezal syndrome). So, as an activist who claimed you should always stand up and be proud of who and what you are, he's a huge hypocrite. So that would make him a scammer and an imposter. Does that automatically cast down the black rights movement? No, it doesn't.
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Yep.
You rightward jerk lately has been astounding. I can only posit it has to do with 2016.

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So, as an activist who claimed you should always stand up and be proud of who and what you are, he's a huge hypocrite.
I guess I missed that part of his repertoire. As far as police injustice and BLM, I don't think it changes his validity; if anything it would highlight hypocrisy in those who believed in him because of his race.
     
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You rightward jerk lately has been astounding. I can only posit it has to do with 2016.
It's probably associated with escalated extremism within the far-Left. I'm encountering a rapidly growing number of Progressive, Social Justice wankers of late and they're becoming increasingly intolerable.

I guess I missed that part of his repertoire. As far as police injustice and BLM, I don't think it changes his validity; if anything it would highlight hypocrisy in those who believed in him because of his race.
Read his book "The Power of 100" sometime (I did a few months ago). Essentially everything in the first half of it; the racial bigotry he claims he faced, growing up as a person of "mixed race", is a complete fiction.
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It's probably associated with escalated extremism within the far-Left. I'm encountering a rapidly growing number of Progressive, Social Justice wankers of late and they're becoming increasingly intolerable.
I guess the heightened extremism of the tea party and right-ward shift of the GOP is too blasé. And they, you know, actually have clout.

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Read his book "The Power of 100" sometime (I did a few months ago). Essentially everything in the first half of it; the racial bigotry he claims he faced, growing up as a person of "mixed race", is a complete fiction.
Out of curiosity, is he off the hook if one of his grandparents is mixed?
     
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I guess the heightened extremism of the tea party and right-ward shift of the GOP is too blasé. And they, you know, actually have clout.
The tea party is essentially dead, and if gay acceptance is any indication (and I believe it is) the Right is moving more toward the center.

Out of curiosity, is he off the hook if one of his grandparents is mixed?
In terms of gov't recognition of ethnicity (grants, scholarships, and various programs for minorities), it's 50%. 25% wouldn't cut it, even if it's true.


Edit: One exception is you can qualify for casino revenues if you're able to prove 1/4 Native American ethnicity, but I believe you need to live on the reservation where the casino is located.
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The tea party is essentially dead
That's true as an organization. The anti-establishment undercurrent, the immigrant hatred, they are alive and well. Hence, Trump.

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if gay acceptance is any indication (and I believe it is) the Right is moving more toward the center.
Not watching the GOP debates? I wouldn't call most of their positions "acceptance".

Edit: 1 word (acronym) RFRA



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In terms of gov't recognition of ethnicity
We're quite obviously not talking about that.
     
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After the molestation charges, who cares about an ashley madison account...

That's like saying, man, I can't believe that _________ murdered his best friend...

Yeah and the car he's driving around in has expired plates too!

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After the molestation charges, who cares about an ashley madison account...

That's like saying, man, I can't believe that _________ murdered his best friend...

Yeah and the car he's driving around in has expired plates too!
Yeah, but he was just a kid when he molested those girls.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
That's true as an organization. The anti-establishment undercurrent, the immigrant hatred, they are alive and well. Hence, Trump.

Not watching the GOP debates? I wouldn't call most of their positions "acceptance".

Edit: 1 word (acronym) RFRA
I don't believe that some of the GOP candidates for POTUS are indicative of conservatives as a whole, polls show that there is a substantial shift to the center, despite what some on the Left claim.

Changing Attitudes on Gay Marriage | Pew Research Center




We're quite obviously not talking about that.
I agree with it, to be of a certain race you should genetically be at least 50% a part of that race.
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I don't believe that some of the GOP candidates for POTUS are indicative of conservatives as a whole,
Neither do I, but they do have most of the power. You seem to be expelling your dissatisfaction at a minority of the left that has no real power.

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I agree with it, to be of a certain race you should genetically be at least 50% a part of that race.
I don't have a benchmark.


Breitbart’s report, authored by the British Gamergate activist Milo Yiannopoulos,
This is ****ing hilarious, however.
     
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In America, the 50% rule would mean, with few exceptions, if one of your parents is white, then you're white.
     
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OTOH, though it happens rarely, and only when I've worked up a serious tan, I've had people ask if I was black, which I guess you could find in some small fraction of my Sicilian grandmother. Everything else is much whiter.
     
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We all know of catastrophic failures in "leadership" within every ideological group, because at some point anyone can fail to live up to expectations.
It's less about "failures" and more about "hypocrisy". Doing exactly the thing you're campaigning against. Like pro-lifers getting abortions or natural weight loss advocates getting bariatric surgery. Have notable pro-choice advocates secretly kept babies? Have notable gay rights advocates had secret heterosexual sex in airport bathrooms?
     
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It's less about "failures" and more about "hypocrisy". Doing exactly the thing you're campaigning against. Like pro-lifers getting abortions or natural weight loss advocates getting bariatric surgery. Have notable pro-choice advocates secretly kept babies? Have notable gay rights advocates had secret heterosexual sex in airport bathrooms?
Don't forget the most violated one: Abstinence-only spokespeople getting it on.
     
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Neither do I, but they do have most of the power. You seem to be expelling your dissatisfaction at a minority of the left that has no real power.
The progressive Left/3W feminists have vast power in the US. They control all of the major universities and the majority of the media outlets, Zeus help you if any woman accuses you of rape. Even without a shred of proof, your life as you know it is over.

I don't have a benchmark.
Okay.

This is ****ing hilarious, however.
No idea where that's from.
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
It's less about "failures" and more about "hypocrisy". Doing exactly the thing you're campaigning against. Like pro-lifers getting abortions or natural weight loss advocates getting bariatric surgery. Have notable pro-choice advocates secretly kept babies? Have notable gay rights advocates had secret heterosexual sex in airport bathrooms?
There's hypocrisy all around; Left, Right, and Center. If you set anyone up on a pedestal, at some point they will disappoint you.
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The progressive Left/3W feminists have vast power in the US.
Yes, so much power they can't even get the paycheck fairness act passed.

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Zeus help you if any woman accuses you of rape. Even without a shred of proof, your life as you know it is over.
You really are conforming to some interesting and terrible stereotypes here.

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No idea where that's from.
That's the guy who revealed "the truth" about Shaun King you so openly embraced.
     
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There's hypocrisy all around
Not the argument being made. You're trying to make two positions of unequal power a moral issue when the point is the influence they have.
     
 
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