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WICKEDfour · May 16, 2005, 11:11 AM

Eh, why not?

Post your E3 updates and thoughts here, why-don-cha.

It looks like there are already some new details at 1-UP on a new Ninja Gaiden game and another named Okami. Besides that, I haven't seen anything new yet at the current moment, but it's comin'...

*Rocks on heels and reloads IGN*

turtle777 · May 16, 2005, 11:26 AM

Pffff, I thought this thread is about Quarter 3 Earning forecasts for Apple...

-t

angelmb · May 16, 2005, 12:54 PM

some rumors

PS3 is going to feature support with Apple and the iPod.

PS3 will feature iTunes support.

PS3 is going to feature an in-house developed fps at launch.

The Revolution will have Smash Bros. with online at launch.

Square Enix is planning on making an MMORPG for the Rev at launch.

Halo 3 will come out next fall with games featuring 50 players and above in single matches.

Sony is going to snatch up Bioware at this E3.

MS is going to snatch up Rockstar.

Nintendo is going to snatch up Square Enix and Konam

The Revolution will indeed feature 3-D glasses.

The Revolution will feature HD support.

The Revolution will recieve the next Zelda in 2008.

Zelda will have online support.

The Revolution will give every game online support, much like the 360.

The Revolution will surpass 360 in features.

Sony’s PS3 online features will be extremely similar to Revolution’s.

keep them coming !

Agasthya · May 16, 2005, 06:31 PM

Anyone have a link to the Sony press conference details?

WICKEDfour · May 16, 2005, 06:33 PM

Supposedly Engadget and Joystiq have live coverage of the Sony press conference.

*Waits until tomorrow for the Nintendo conference

*

Albert Pujols · May 16, 2005, 06:43 PM

A bunch of my friends are going, and I'm jealous. The best way to get tickets is to beg your friends for them. That's my plan for next year.

ambush · May 16, 2005, 06:45 PM

Agasthya · May 16, 2005, 07:02 PM

Sorry dude, thats a fake image.

Diggory Laycock · May 16, 2005, 07:03 PM

Fake from here:

http://ps3portal.com/?page=ps3_picture_16

ambush · May 16, 2005, 07:09 PM

Yeah... it looks butt ugly I sure hope it's a fake.

spatterson · May 16, 2005, 07:12 PM

When will all this PS3 and Revolution info come out?

Diggory Laycock · May 16, 2005, 07:13 PM

The Sony conference is happening now I think:

http://www.kotaku.com/

Seems to be the most up to to date for me - Engadget has fallen off the planet.

WICKEDfour · May 16, 2005, 07:18 PM

The Sony conference started at 3:00 PM PDT, the Microsoft conference will be at 7:30 PM PDT, and the Nintendo conference will be at 9:00 AM PDT, Tuesday.

Agasthya · May 16, 2005, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Diggory Laycock

The Sony conference is happening now I think:

http://www.kotaku.com/

Seems to be the most up to to date for me - Engadget has fallen off the planet.

He's only got one posting though

spatterson · May 16, 2005, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by WICKEDfour

The Sony conference started at 3:00 PM PDT, the Microsoft conference will be at 7:30 PM PDT, and the Nintendo conference will be at 9:00 AM PDT, Tuesday.

Sweet.... I am looking forward to comparison...

Just becasue I hate M$, I was wishing that the PS3 will remain strong against the XBox 360. I like the xbox at this time due to its graphics power, but I would still like to see the PS3 pull way ahead of MS.

Agasthya · May 16, 2005, 07:25 PM

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/05...s_6124681.html

PlayStation 3 announced for 2006
Sony confirms the name and release window of its next-generation console in Los Angeles, will use Blu-ray disc format.

LOS ANGELES--Today saw the second of the big three console makers announce their next-generation platform. At its pre-E3 press conference, Sony Computer Entertainment gave the world its first look at the PlayStation 3, as it now is officially called.

The name was not unexpected, since Sony had been running an extensive teaser-ad campaign prepping the public for the PlayStation 3. The company had laid a blanket of posters around the Los Angeles Convention Center, site of the Electronic Entertainment Expo (aka E3). Bus stalls and billboards around the convention center proclaimed "Prepare for Chang3" in the distinctive PlayStation font with partial shots of the Dual Shock controller's square-circle-triangle-X buttons.

Sony also confirmed the PlayStation 3, will use Blu-Ray discs as its media format. The discs can hold up to six times as much data as current-generation DVDs. It will also support CR-ROM, CDR+W, DVD, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD+R formats. It also confirmed the machine would be backward-compatible all the way to the original PlayStation. It will also have slots for Memory Stick Duo, a SD slot, and a compact flash memory slot. It will also sport a slot for detachable 2.5 inch HDD somewhat similar the Xbox 360's.

Out of the box, the PS3 will have the capability to support seven Bluetooth controllers. It will also have six USB slots for peripherals--four up front and two in the back.

Sony also laid out the technical specs of the device. The PlayStation 3 will feature the much-vaunted Cell processor, which will run at 3.2 Ghz and feature 2.18 teraflops of performance. It will sport 256mb XDR main RAM at 3.2 Ghz, and have 256MB of GDDR VRAM at 700mhz.

Sony also unveiled the PS3's graphics chip, the RSX "Reality Synthesizer based on Nvidia technology. The GPU will be capable of 128bit pixel precision, 1080p resolution, some of the highest HD resolution around. It also has over 300 million transistors lager than any processor available commercially today. It was manufactured using the 90nm process with 8 layers of metal. The RSX is more powerful than two GeForce 6800 ultras, which would cost rough $1000 if bought today.

The PlayStation 3 will also sport some hefty multimedia features, such as video chat, internet access, digital photo viewing, digital audio and video. Sony Computer Entertainment head Ken Kutaragi introduced it as a "Super computer for computer entertainment."

WICKEDfour · May 16, 2005, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by spatterson

Sweet.... I am looking forward to comparison...

Just becasue I hate M$, I was wishing that the PS3 will remain strong against the XBox 360. I like the xbox at this time due to its graphics power, but I would still like to see the PS3 pull way ahead of MS.

Well, from the hype there's been around the Cell processor, I'd say that the PS3 should be even more unfathomably powerful than the lightweight Xbox 360. I've also heard a rumor that said the Revolution would be slightly less powerful than the PS3, rather than being slightly more powerful than 360. We'll see how the decks are stacked by Tuesday, though, so I'd take this ramble with a grain of salt.

[Edit] (@ Agasthya's post) Whoa. Start running, Microsoft. Looks like you've lost the arms race...

Diggory Laycock · May 16, 2005, 07:29 PM

Bluetooth - Score! I secretly hoped that they would use it - I never thought they would actually do it though. (and be sensible enough to use a non-Sony standard - it bodes well.)

Agasthya · May 16, 2005, 07:30 PM

Severed Hand of Skywalker · May 16, 2005, 07:33 PM

Ya nice try with that graphic, remember how the PS2 was supposed to be Toy Story Graphics in real time.

When did they get their hands on a final Xbox 360 to benchmark it?

Agasthya · May 16, 2005, 07:35 PM

Yeah, as Mac users we all know how useless floating point benchmarks can be.

Diggory Laycock · May 16, 2005, 07:41 PM

http://www.scee.presscentre.com/imag...etailsID=26315

(Site currently unresponsive)

although this image appears to work:

No sense of scale in that pic though. (looks like a fridge.)

Agasthya · May 16, 2005, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Diggory Laycock

http://www.scee.presscentre.com/imag...etailsID=26315

(Site currently unresponsive)

although this image appears to work:

No sense of scale in that pic though. (looks like a fridge.)

bigger pic (same pic though)

http://xs404.xs.to/pics/05202/ps3-2.jpg

Spook E · May 16, 2005, 07:48 PM

not sure what to make of it? looks a hell of a lot better than the new xbox, but can't quite make out the details on the thing.

If its a bevelled top as it appears its a funny way to go, but i like it, i'll take a black one thanks

Severed Hand of Skywalker · May 16, 2005, 07:48 PM

That is friggin beautiful! Makes the Xbox look retarded.

Agasthya · May 16, 2005, 07:50 PM

Yeah its quite nice. And hopefully none of that "removable face plate" nonsense.

MindFad · May 16, 2005, 07:50 PM

Meh. I immediately thought, "Wow, it's like a gargantuan server-looking thing." It's simple and sleek. It works—but I would like to know the dimensions.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · May 16, 2005, 07:52 PM

Look at the CD tray, looks twice the size of a CD.

Agasthya · May 16, 2005, 07:52 PM

Well look at the little flip door, thats probably for the drive so it'll be about 2x as tall as an optical drive.

Diggory Laycock · May 16, 2005, 07:53 PM

Is that the font from Spiderman? hrmmm :/

Severed Hand of Skywalker · May 16, 2005, 07:54 PM

The black one really is stunning. I assume it can also sit on the side. Why is vertical so popular all of a sudden?

WICKEDfour · 07:56 PM

Judging by the color schemes and designs of that PS3 image and the Xbox 360, Nintendo should/will have an easy time pleasing the crowd with, among other things, a unique and innovative console design. Wow...I mean, just...wow. Apparently those 2 consoles are the new kitchen accessory - silver, slabby, large, and boring. Oh well, I guess it's what's on the inside that counts, hmm?

Agasthya · May 16, 2005, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

The black one really is stunning. I assume it can also sit on the side. Why is vertical so popular all of a sudden?

Less floorspace I'd imagine.

Diggory Laycock · 08:10 PM

Flat:

And here's the back:

http://img2.kult-mag.com/photos/00/0...00570926_2.jpg

hmm - on closer inspection of the back - why does it need three ethernet ports?

Severed Hand of Skywalker · May 16, 2005, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by WICKEDfour

Judging by the color schemes and designs of that PS3 image and the Xbox 360, Nintendo should/will have an easy time pleasing the crowd with, among other things, a unique and innovative console design. Wow...I mean, just...wow. Apparently those 2 consoles are the new kitchen accessory - silver, slabby, large, and boring. Oh well, I guess it's what's on the inside that counts, hmm?

Ya everyone uses that handle on the cube all the time, and they love the fact that you can't put it on a shelf because of the top loading.

Agasthya · 08:10 PM

working flat link:

WICKEDfour · 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

Ya everyone uses that handle on the cube all the time, and they love the fact that you can't put it on a shelf because of the top loading.

Need I remind you that we're talking about a new generation of consoles? Nintendo's stated that they've made [design] mistakes; at least they can move on. [Addition: Reggie, in an interview, even admitted that the GameCube was "not sexy."

] Microsoft and Sony, on the other hand, are still clinging to their console's names for blind lemming brand identity. That's what's in a name - change or lack thereof.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · May 16, 2005, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by WICKEDfour

Need I remind you that we're talking about a new generation of consoles? Nintendo's stated that they've made mistakes; at least they can move on. Microsoft and Sony, on the other hand, are still clinging to their console's names for blind lemming brand identity. That's what's in a name - change or lack thereof.

Ya the Xbox and PS2 are doing very well so I don't know what they need to fix.

Oh and Nintendo said they learnt their lessons with the N64, then made things worse with the cube.

We are not turning this into a Nintendo Rox thread until they show the revolution and it kicks ass.

CIA · May 16, 2005, 08:34 PM

Looking at the back pic. It has 2 HDMI outputs? Both labeled "out" and..... I'm guessing 1 modem, but then 2 Ethernet jacks? Makes no sense.... Nice to see old school AV output connector tho.
Also, if it's backwards compat. How do I plug in my old memory cards?

Diggory Laycock · 08:56 PM

Since the PS2 network adapter in Europe was released without a modem port - I doubt they are putting a modem port in the PS3.

It looks very much like three Ethernet ports - perhaps for high-speed Cell interconnects?

[edit]

Press Release text here:
http://www.idiottoys.com/2005/05/pla....html#comments

They are ethernet ports - and Gigabit ethernet too. (hmm - Input x1 Output x2)

[edit]

oh noes - the controllers are hideous and look like they might cause RSI just by touching them:

MindFad · May 16, 2005, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Agasthya

working flat link:

Ooh, now that looks much nicer than the side views. Bit odd looking with that rounded top, but it's OK.

Controller, on the other hand, looks horrendous. Really not diggin' the look, but we'll see how it feels, I guess. Can't wait to see the Revolution controller.

ambush · May 16, 2005, 08:55 PM

Yay for dildo like controllers

I hope it has poweful rumble features for the female players out there.

nforcer · May 16, 2005, 09:53 PM

Wow, that controller is terrible. The basic layout is not much different than the PS2 controller (which was just a PS1 Dual Analog controller). I realize that keeping a familiar controller is important for its backwards compatibility (2 generations of games that rely on that layout) but I was really hoping they would do something more like the Xbox Controller-S (swap the d-pad and left analog stick positions, make the analog sticks better for thumbs by changing the tops, and make them less sensitive) so the PS3 could have a shot at being good for FPS games. The design of the controller is really as important as any GPU or CPU. I would argue it's the reason why the PS2 and GC suck for FPS games. A bad controller is the reason why Metroid' lacks efficient strafing (having to lock-on to something sucks, especially when moving about an empty room). And I am going to say this is the reason why the PS3 will never have a good "Halo-killer" or any FPS game that I will care to play.

Eug Wanker · May 16, 2005, 10:47 PM

OMFG! (AnandTech)

Severed Hand of Skywalker · May 16, 2005, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by nforcer

And I am going to say this is the reason why the PS3 will never have a good "Halo-killer" or any FPS game that I will care to play.

So? Does it have to be a FPS to be a huge hit? The sims sells more than any other game, think about that.

Lateralus · May 16, 2005, 11:04 PM

Well, I see Sony is showing off their knack for aesthetics yet again...

Anyways, the specs are extrordinarily impressive. The all-around package is better than I thought it was going to be. The next generation of console gaming is shaping up to look like it will be very rewarding.

Eug Wanker · May 16, 2005, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

OMFG! (AnandTech)

im_noahselby · May 17, 2005, 02:39 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing better pictures of the PS3 before I decide whether or not I like the design. It would be cool if they release it in black, it just looks off in the white colour. DC was the only system that I liked in white.

Also it's a shame that Square isn't going to make their FFVII demo into a re-make for the PS3. I can tell you that of all Square games, this one has the biggest following and is the most cherished. I would love to play it all over again on PS3!

I can't wait to see what Nintendo has up it's sleeves. They wen't from "cool" (N64) to "lame" (GC), so my expectations aren't very high. But if one thing is for sure, Nintendo is always full of surprises - we'll just have to wait and see - and pray....

Noah

DeathMan · May 17, 2005, 02:57 AM

I'm not much of a gamer, but dang, that ps3 looks nice. I haven't been caught at all by the xbox 2 marketing. the ps3 is some pretty impressive stuff, though.

Hawkeye_a · May 17, 2005, 05:34 AM

Originally Posted by MindFad

Meh. I immediately thought, "Wow, it's like a gargantuan server-looking thing." It's simple and sleek. It works—but I would like to know the dimensions.

same here. it's minimalistic and simple, but also lacking personality imo. And yes it does look better than the XBox. Nice work overall, both technically and asthetically. any word on the dimensions of the thing.