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yaro · May 29, 2003, 01:41 AM

There is a plugin that enables users of giFT to participate in the FastTrack network. The readme says it works on a mac but I cannot get it to compile. Some well informed unix gurus may try to compile it for the mac.

it is located at:

http://developer.berlios.de/projects/gift-fasttrack/

Leibowitzn · May 29, 2003, 01:55 AM

Personally Kazaa is the only program that makes me want to use windows.

Recently I've been downloading Star Trek Enterprise episodes and I usually download them on my iBook through various IRC servers. I can usually get 1 to 2 a day. Last weekend I went home (I'm currently at school) and had access to my family's Window's machine. I downloaded all two seasons of Enterprise in two days. That's more than 50 episodes.

Any way, can't wait till we have access to the fast track network !

Leibowitzn · May 29, 2003, 02:04 AM

Here's some reaction from the giFT developers: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/f...forum_id=14880

60-hz · May 29, 2003, 05:10 AM

Anyone managed to get this running on Os X yet? If so can some one please post a guide !!

Groovy · May 29, 2003, 05:15 AM

use mldonkey it does kazaa just fine and a lot more.

Brazuca · May 29, 2003, 08:34 AM

mldonkey (I think its called mlnet now) is now connected to the fasttrack network.

rob7erto · May 29, 2003, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by yaro:
There is a plugin that enables users of giFT to participate in the FastTrack network. The readme says it works on a mac but I cannot get it to compile. Some well informed unix gurus may try to compile it for the mac.

it is located at:

http://developer.berlios.de/projects/gift-fasttrack/

mlDonkey is too cumbersome. Hope somebody gets this giFT thing working.

gottsilla · May 29, 2003, 10:33 AM

Yesterday, I compiled the CVS version without a problem.

1. copy to the giFT folder (where your giFT sources are located, not the compiled binary)
2. "cd" to the "giFT-FastTrack" folder
3. type "make mac"
4. type "sudo make install"
5. in your gift.conf file: "plugins = OpenFT:/usr/local/lib/giFT/FastTrack.so"
6. start giFT

yaro · May 29, 2003, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by gottsilla:
Yesterday, I compiled the CVS version without a problem.

1. copy to the giFT folder (where your giFT sources are located, not the compiled binary)
2. "cd" to the "giFT-FastTrack" folder
3. type "make mac"
4. type "sudo make install"
5. in your gift.conf file: "plugins = OpenFT:/usr/local/lib/giFT/FastTrack.so"
6. start giFT

Great! Care to post the binary?

gottsilla · May 29, 2003, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by yaro:
Great! Care to post the binary?

If you managed to compile giFT, than this one should be really easy for you. I just wanted to point out, that you have to use the cvs version and not the giFT-FastTrack-030518.tar.gz from the download section.

yaro · 11:56 PM

Originally posted by gottsilla:
If you managed to compile giFT, than this one should be really easy for you. I just wanted to point out, that you have to use the cvs version and not the giFT-FastTrack-030518.tar.gz from the download section.

No, I cannot compile gift either. I got my gift from fink and giftbox.
May be my system is not configured with the right libraries and headers.

"make mac" still gives me errors.

King Bob On The Cob · May 29, 2003, 04:37 PM

I can't seem to get it to compile support for the protocol into the binary so I can't get the .so to work. Ain't life a *****.

gottsilla · 08:30 PM

Just tried the CVS version, which didn't compile for me.

edit: removed link, sorry.

yaro · May 29, 2003, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by gottsilla:
Just tried the CVS version, which didn't compile for me.

edit: removed link, sorry.

Thanks.

AHDuke99 · May 29, 2003, 11:33 PM

I can't get the link to work

yaro · May 30, 2003, 12:59 AM

I get a feeling this is the i586 binary. I cannot get it work.

gottsilla · 05:56 AM

Originally posted by yaro:
I get a feeling this is the i586 binary. I cannot get it work.

Ok, if you think so.

I'm not quite sure about this, but:
To get this plugin work, you have to compile giFT with libdl enabled. (?)
To to this, you first have to install the following with fink:
1. libtool14
2. dlcompat-dev

And then read the README.macosx in giFT/doc/mac.

This worked for me (I did a clean install of giFT yesterday to ensure this works)

That should be enogh help. If this works for you, please don't forget to update giFT very often (important!).

This is from the faq at giFT project website:
"Why are you against the distributing of binaries?
giFT isn't ready for that. And if you're unable to build it yourself, it's not for you. We don't want lots different and incompatible version floating around, because they pollute our current test network."

btw: if you manage to compile giFT, you might want to try poisoned, a cocoa gui for giFT, I'm working on at the moment.

good luck.

edit: Sorry, I totally forgot. Once you get giFT running this way, it should be no problem to get the ft-plugin (cvs version) working.

darkcore · 11:28 PM

gotsilla: great work on poisoned, didn't think anything could top giftbox gui wise, but I think you have with poisoned. thanks for all the info on getting the giFT FastTrack plugin and giFT compiled; quite involved process but it worked. =)

ae77 · May 31, 2003, 04:06 AM

Following gottsilla's guide, I was able to get giFT running. but no luck with the fasttrack plugin...

make mac gives me errors.

Could someone please write a guide? thanks.

JB72 · May 31, 2003, 05:47 AM

Doesn't GiftBox auto install openFT/giFT?

- - -

Are there any other plugins besides Fasttrack?

gottsilla · 08:17 AM

make mac gives me errors.

Could someone please write a guide? thanks. [/B]

"make mac" and "sudo make install" should really do it. if it doesn't, wait a day or so and try the CVS version again. That's what I did.

rob7erto · May 31, 2003, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by gottsilla:
"make mac" and "sudo make install" should really do it. if it doesn't, wait a day or so and try the CVS version again. That's what I did.

Can somebody just post a binary please?

phillryu · May 31, 2003, 10:22 AM

I can't get CVS to work (yes I have dev tools installed.) I compiled giFT and it works great, but fasttrack I can't cvs to. Can anyone give me instructions? Or send me the needed files?

ae77 · May 31, 2003, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by phillryu:
I can't get CVS to work (yes I have dev tools installed.) I compiled giFT and it works great, but fasttrack I can't cvs to. Can anyone give me instructions? Or send me the needed files?

Do

cvs -d:pserver:[email protected]:/cvsroot/gift-fasttrack login

(all in one line)

and then,

cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[email protected]:/cvsroot/gift-fasttrack co giFT-FastTrack

(all in one line)

phillryu · May 31, 2003, 09:00 PM

Thanks, I got it working.

King Bob On The Cob · May 31, 2003, 11:16 PM

I had to recompile the giFT code with libtool compiled from source, not the binary edition they give out with Fink

macgyvr64 · May 31, 2003, 11:45 PM

DC++ is better than Kazaa anyway..if you've got a lot shared, you can get into hubs with over 120 TB of files. And they have everything, including stuff like full DVD ISO's and whatnot... *not going to say any more*

The Windows client is great...the Mac one is..ehh

King Bob On The Cob · May 31, 2003, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by macgyvr64:
DC++ is better than Kazaa anyway..if you've got a lot shared, you can get into hubs with over 120 TB of files. And they have everything, including stuff like full DVD ISO's and whatnot... *not going to say any more*

The Windows client is great...the Mac one is..ehh

Kazaa has 6 PETABYTES of files on it. Puny terabytes are nothing compared to the pure mass of files on Kazaa. (6.09 PB connected right now with 3.7 million users.) Anyways, if you want full DVDs your looking to the wrong place, BitTorrent and eDonkey/OverNet are far better at preventing corruption.

macgyvr64 · May 31, 2003, 11:51 PM

There's about a petabyte on DC++, but it's far more organized than Kazaa. After using it for a few months, I can't stand Kazaa

King Bob On The Cob · May 31, 2003, 11:58 PM

Originally posted by macgyvr64:
There's about a petabyte on DC++, but it's far more organized than Kazaa. After using it for a few months, I can't stand Kazaa

I don't use DC often, does it swarm and auto reconnect to more sources if the original is lost? That the biggest reason I use eDonkey when I want to get movies. (That and the automatic hashing/checks of files and the fact that you can download off someone before they are totally done downloading) and it still feels to much like Hotline (Hotline makes me feel dirty whenever I even talk about it)

macgyvr64 · Jun 1, 2003, 12:03 AM

It will find every user with that file and download from them..but I'm not sure if it will find newly joined users and do the same. It can check files if you want it to. For the most part, all my downloads finish. People on DC hardly ever leave, lol.

yaro · Jun 1, 2003, 03:50 PM

Ok folks, I have it working now. The hard part is getting giFt to compile.

[APi]TheMan · Jun 2, 2003, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by macgyvr64:
DC++ is better than Kazaa anyway..if you've got a lot shared, you can get into hubs with over 120 TB of files. And they have everything, including stuff like full DVD ISO's and whatnot... *not going to say any more*

The Windows client is great...the Mac one is..ehh

DC++ for MacOSX?... I sure hope this isn't a command line client.

Last time I checked, DC++ was a Sourceforge project... for Windows... and most likely a *nix download.

Is there a DC++ client for Mac now?

memento · Jun 2, 2003, 11:48 AM

There is not, and probably will never be, a DC++ client for OSX.

There is an X11 client called dcgui. It has largely the same features as DC++. Search the forum for dcgui.

macgyvr64 · Jun 2, 2003, 02:17 PM

There is a DC client for OS X, but it's not nearly as good as the win32 one.

http://www.networkingfiles.net/nf031...onnect.dmg.sit

King Bob On The Cob · Jun 3, 2003, 01:54 AM

The giFT plugin has encryption problems. I can no longer connect to supernodes because of encryption problems.
mldonkey still seems o be able to connect fine though.

[APi]TheMan · Jun 3, 2003, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by macgyvr64:
There is a DC client for OS X, but it's not nearly as good as the win32 one.

http://www.networkingfiles.net/nf031...onnect.dmg.sit

We're talkin' about DC++... not DirectConnect...

Some hubs, an increasing many, will not let you in using NeoModus' client (Direct Connect).

macgyvr64 · Jun 3, 2003, 02:06 PM

Some hubs, an increasing many, will not let you in using NeoModus' client (Direct Connect).[/B]

Wow, really? I've never seen that, only the opposite.

DC++ is open source...you'd think someone would have done some work on porting it...

JB72 · Jun 8, 2003, 01:58 AM

Anyone know when giFT is going to make it's post-CVS debut? My head is spinning from yet-another-failed-giFT-with-kazaa-installation.

King Bob On The Cob · 03:00 AM

Download Fink.
Download FinkCommander.
And lets get the CVS of giFT and the FastTrack plugin

Code:
cvs -d:pserver:[email protected]:/cvsroot/gift login

cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[email protected]:/cvsroot/gift co giFT

cvs -d:pserver:[email protected]:/cvsroot/gift logout

cvs -d:pserver:[email protected]:/cvsroot/gift-fasttrack login

cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[email protected]:/cvsroot/gift-fasttrack co giFT-FastTrack

cvs -d:pserver:[email protected]:/cvsroot/gift-fasttrack logout

Lets get the needed library's out of the way.
Start FinkCommander.
Go up to the source menu.
Select selfupdate-cvs.
When finished, now it's time to install the library's.
find "compress-zlib-p"
Install from source (The little icon with a .h up on top).
now find "db3-shlibs"
Install from source yet again
You will also need dlcompat.
(You know what to do I hope)
Time to head back to the terminal.
Open the terminal.

Code:
cd giFT
./autogen.sh CPPFLAGS=-I/sw/include LDFLAGS=-L/sw/lib --enable-gnutella --enable-libdb --enable-fink
make
sudo make install

Time for a new shell.
(Select new in Terminal)

Code:
giFT-setup

answer this correctly. When you reach "Plugins" use this
OpenFT:Gnutella:FastTrack
Time to compile FastTrack

Code:
cd ~/giFT-FastTrack
sh -c 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/ LIBTOOL=glibtool LIBTOOLIZE=glibtoolize ./autogen.sh'
make
sudo make install

If you have trouble with the installation guide I just wrote, Leave a message here with what step you had trouble on, and what happened.

JB72 · Jun 8, 2003, 03:14 AM

Originally posted by King Bob On The Cob:
If you have trouble with the installation guide I just wrote, Leave a message here with what step you had trouble on, and what happened. (During the FastTrack compile, ignore it's bitching about not having libgift)

Wow thanks KBOTC. I geuss I'm back in action.

My last attempt looked good, but I got stuck when 'giFT-setup' refused to work.

I'm now updating my Fink source stuff via FinkCommander. I'll let you know what happens.

Thanks again.

JB72 · Jun 8, 2003, 05:02 AM

Code:
connection died

Ugg.

I have no luck with anything that involves a CLI. I give up.

King Bob On The Cob · Jun 8, 2003, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by JB72:

Code:
connection died

Ugg.

I have no luck with anything that involves a CLI. I give up.

The CVS is ging you that error? Odd... Usually make me want to smack around some stuff.

JB72 · Jun 8, 2003, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by King Bob On The Cob:
The CVS is ging you that error? Odd... Usually make me want to smack around some stuff.

Na. That's what happens when I start giFT. It starts then stops a second later. I always seem to screw something up with this program. Obviously I'm not meant to be playing with giFT until it's a tad more idiot proof.

Hopefully your directions will encourage some others to give it a shot though.

King Bob On The Cob · Jun 8, 2003, 04:32 PM

My instructions are outdated already damnit!
The giFT ones will work. The FastTrack plugin changed their files 27 hours ago (I run a 36 hour update schedule) You gotta install libtool14 from source also before you make the FastTrack plugin.
I'll rewrite the instructions when I figure out why stupid FastTrack refuses to compile now.

King Bob On The Cob · Jun 9, 2003, 02:33 AM

That was difficult enough I'm going to cry. But It compiled! Woo Hoo! (You gotta run all the commands out of the autogen.sh command. You have to switch libtoolize --automake to libtoolize --force)

forcelite · Jun 9, 2003, 03:40 AM

all these command lines are insane. I hope a gui comes out that will connect to multible networks.

JB72 · Jun 9, 2003, 12:55 PM

Originally posted by forcelite:
all these command lines are insane. I hope a gui comes out that will connect to multible networks.

I think I'm with you there. For now I'll leave it for the brave Pioneers.

I hope this network takes off though. GiftBox is already a really nice client.

King Bob On The Cob · Jun 24, 2003, 12:41 AM

Updated the build guide to accommodate the new FastTrack plug-in.

Sarah31 · Jun 24, 2003, 10:17 AM

my probelm is is that i don't want to use fink and have never managed to get giFT to compile. if anyone has and can post what steps they used i would appreciate it i have tried lots of things but always get errors during the make step

. giFTbox will do for now but i would be interested in checking out running giFT fromm the cli and using giftcurs which i find to be a much smoother interface than giFTbox.

i don't forsee any trouble getting giFT-fasttrach working.