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Jan 19, 2016, 05:44 PM
 
Classic MacOS was around f or 17 years (1984 - 2001).

OSX has been around for ~15 year (2001 - 2016).

I can't believe that OSX is almost as old as Classic MacOS was when the transition to OSX was starting; around the time I purchased my first Mac.



Fifteen years into Classic MacOS, we were anticipating MacOS9, with features such as voice login, multi user accounts, CD burning in the finder and Sherlock2.

And it was around the same time Pirates of Silicon Valley was released.

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Jan 19, 2016, 05:48 PM
 
Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a View Post
Fifteen years into Classic MacOS, we were anticipating MacOS9, with features such as voice login, multi user accounts, CD burning in the finder and not restarting a crashed machine several times a day..
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Jan 19, 2016, 10:53 PM
 
I miss the Control Strip. I don't want to see some menulets on my menu bar. Some of them are non-removable also.
     
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Jan 19, 2016, 11:19 PM
 
Don't forget that OS X is based off of NeXTSTEP which is almost as old as classic MacOS (the initial release was in 1989, although it had been in development for quite a few years).
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Jan 20, 2016, 02:06 AM
 
Does anyone remember the little QuickDraw 3D gerbil program?



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Jan 20, 2016, 10:11 AM
 
we've come a long way. There's not much that I miss from the old OS.
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Jan 20, 2016, 11:47 AM
 
MacDraw Pro.
     
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Jan 20, 2016, 02:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by osiris View Post
we've come a long way. There's not much that I miss from the old OS.
I remember it being pretty snappy.
     
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Originally Posted by osiris View Post
There's not much that I miss from the old OS.
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
I remember it being pretty snappy.
It was - measurably so, in that the mouse pointer lag was much shorter so the interface was more immediate. There are hacks to improve OS X a bit, but it doesn't get to OS 9 level. That is one thing I actually do miss sometimes.

Originally Posted by Doc HM View Post
Yes, because the new kernel panic box is so much spiffier.

(OS X is much more fault tolerant, I am not going to argue that, but every thread about OS 9 tends to degenerate into "it crashed". It did, on occasion, but except for the abysmal System 7.5, it didn't crash very often.)
The new Mac Pro has up to 30 MB of cache inside the processor itself. That's more than the HD in my first Mac. Somehow I'm still running out of space.
     
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Jan 21, 2016, 09:38 AM
 
^^^

I didn't get the system crash box very often. But Internet Explorer would just lockup my original iMac routinely. Reboot. Repeat.

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Jan 21, 2016, 09:47 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
I remember it being pretty snappy.
that's because you're delusional.

OH!

i kid.
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Jan 21, 2016, 09:50 AM
 
Originally Posted by Doc HM View Post
That one was a rarity for me, but I remember those crashes being brutal at times - you'd lose whatever you had open.

This reminds me of unplugging ADB keyboard/mouse while the computer was on.
Early Macs did not like this.
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Originally Posted by osiris View Post
That one was a rarity for me, but I remember those crashes being brutal at times - you'd lose whatever you had open.

This reminds me of unplugging ADB keyboard/mouse while the computer was on.
Early Macs did not like this.
Doing design, running lots of fonts, quark xpress, suitcase (ugh) and other stuff all running, it was a daily sight. Learnt to save well and often.
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Originally Posted by Doc HM View Post
Doing design, running lots of fonts, quark xpress, suitcase (ugh) and other stuff all running, it was a daily sight. Learnt to save well and often.
yep... remember arranging extensions to load in a certain order? ~ATM, for one.
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Jan 21, 2016, 10:09 AM
 
Originally Posted by osiris View Post
This reminds me of unplugging ADB keyboard/mouse while the computer was on.
Early Macs did not like this.
There was a really nice prank related to that. Macs had two ADB ports, but all keyboards except perhaps the first had two ADB ports in the keyboard as well, so most people plugged the mouse into the keyboard. This meant that if you had a second mouse, you could use the other port on the back of the Mac to connect a second mouse, and the Mac would receive inputs from both mice. Absolutely hilarious, especially as most people weren't very comfortable with computers back then.
The new Mac Pro has up to 30 MB of cache inside the processor itself. That's more than the HD in my first Mac. Somehow I'm still running out of space.
     
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Jan 21, 2016, 10:27 AM
 
Ah, we were such a simple people then.
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Jan 21, 2016, 11:10 AM
 
There were more pranking extensions back then too, because we weren't so security conscious. One was Radiation & Trigger, where you snuck an extension onto your victim's Mac and ran another application on your own to send a customized warning dialog box to the victim. Another was Mitten Touchtypist, which replaced every 12-16th keystroke with the key next to it.
The new Mac Pro has up to 30 MB of cache inside the processor itself. That's more than the HD in my first Mac. Somehow I'm still running out of space.
     
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Jan 21, 2016, 11:45 AM
 
I remember the fake dialog box trick! Good times....

Noticed your sig, P - my first computer had 3.3K (less than the size of an email today)
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Originally Posted by P View Post
Another was Mitten Touchtypist, which replaced every 12-16th keystroke with the key next to it.
That's so evil.
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Jan 25, 2016, 11:33 AM
 
Originally Posted by P View Post
It was - measurably so, in that the mouse pointer lag was much shorter so the interface was more immediate. There are hacks to improve OS X a bit, but it doesn't get to OS 9 level. That is one thing I actually do miss sometimes.
Yeah i too remember the mouse pointer having a lot less lag back then.

It's strange, but for the most part, my workflow, requirements and use cases when using a computer are practically unchanged since then. Web, Email, 'digital hub', word processing/spreadsheets.

That being said the two main advantages i appreciate of OSX are protected memory and real multi tasking.
     
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Jan 25, 2016, 01:59 PM
 
Anybody remember OS9 proto-Siri?

God, that sucked.
     
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Jan 25, 2016, 03:11 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Anybody remember OS9 proto-Siri?

God, that sucked.
It was workable, but limited. I got it to do a few things, but it didn't pick up my voice properly.

Eventually, I gave up.

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The deal breaker for me was talking on the phone, and having it start to do stuff.
     
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Jan 27, 2016, 04:07 PM
 
I still remember the "whit" sound it made when it picked up a command.
     
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Jan 27, 2016, 05:47 PM
 
You can set that to use the ~ key if you wanted.

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