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How to mount BIG drives in Classic MacPro or iMac
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Dec 2, 2017, 01:34 AM
 
If you install large drives (generally 8TB or bigger) into a tower Mac Pro or earlier iMac, there's a good chance the drive will play dead. Here is what happens, and how you can fix it. Hat tip to macrumors forums for some of the research.

Large HGST & WD Drives
Some big HGST & WD drives, especially in the He series, will not mount after a warm reboot. They mount OK after a cold boot. They are also OK after sleep, if you cold-booted. This is suspected to be a drive firmware issue affecting Macs, which HGST has not gotten around to fixing. They've apparently been told more than a year ago.

Update: it now looks like this is a drive-availability issue. Earlier OS X versions mount these drives fine on reboot, while later macOS versions do not. It may be related to ability to boot from a RAID array. On reboot, later macOS versions expect drives to be available right away. If they aren't ready fast enough, they're ignored. A cold boot allows more time to spin up (due to POST?) avoiding the glitch. Apple could definitely fix it, as older OS versions are unaffected. HGST / WD might fix it, by reporting 'ready' sooner, even if the drive hasn't finished spinning up.

Solution: always cold-boot when you need the affected drive to mount.
Alternate1: place affected drive in an external case.
Alternate2: submit bug report to Apple, HGST or WD. The squeaky wheel gets greased.

Large Drives that are SATA 3.3 compliant
These drives are mostly newer HGST models at present, along with WD models that are rebadged HGST. But all future drives will eventually be affected. If you plug one of these drives into your Mac Pro, it will not spin up under any conditions. System Profiler will not detect anything in the bay.

This is caused by a change in the SATA power connection standard.



Through SATA standard 3.1, the first three pins were defined as:
Pin 1 - 3.3V power
Pin 2 - 3.3V power
Pin 3 - 3.3V power

Starting with SATA standard 3.3, they were redefined as:
Pin 1 - 3.3V power
Pin 2 - 3.3V power
Pin 3 - PWDIS (power disable mode)

Very few devices use the 3.3v rails, so when they added a new feature, they repurposed Pin 3. The new feature (power disable mode) is aimed at remote management of servers. If power is applied to Pin 3, the drive will power down. This reduces power usage when a drive is not needed. It also allows the admin to fully reboot a drive without rebooting the server.

The MacPro was designed to earlier SATA versions, and still applies 3.3v to Pin 3. So your newer HDD pretends to be a brick. HGST even posted a PDF explaining the problem.

Solution: tape over Pin 3.
Alternate1: use drive in an external case. Most cases either comply with the later SATA spec, or fail to supply 3.3V at all.
Alternate2: use in MacPro optical drive bay, with a power adapter cord that omits the 3.3V signal. Or where you have clipped the 3.3V wire out of the cord. Caution: some non-HDD devices do use 3.3v, so don't clip your original Mac power cable. Get a power extension cable, and clip it as needed.

The tape solution allows use in the regular internal drive bays. You need some Scotch tape or similar film-like tape.

You only need to cover Pin 3, but your HDD does not use 3.3 volts at all. It is easier and more reliable to cover Pins 1-3.

Clip a bit of tape, narrow enough to cover the three pins. Alternatively, place the full tape across, then use a fine blade to slice the tape between Pins 3 and 4. Then peel away the unneeded tape from Pins 4 and up.





Use tweezers to smooth down the tape for good adhesion. Cut the excess length so it sticks out less than the pin depth. Roll the extra tape over to the underside of the connector. Use the tweezers to be sure the underside adheres.



Insert your large late-model drive into your Mac Pro and boot up. Tested successfully on two new HGST HUH721010ALE604 10TB HDDs that were affected by both of the big-drive issues.

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Note that large drives have gone to a different screw-hole pattern on the bottom of the drive. The middle screw holes had to be moved back to accommodate more drive platters inside. Unfortunately, the Mac Pro drive sleds use the middle screw holes. In a pinch, you can do something ugly with string, tying an HDD temporarily to the rail.

The better answer is to order a replacement sled from Other World Computing. For Mac Pros 2009-2012 only. I haven't found a large-drive sled for Mac Pros 2006-2008.



This replacement sled has both standard and revised screw locations to mount all 3.5-inch drives.
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Dec 2, 2017, 09:55 AM
 
That was an exceptionally inept way to introduce Power Disable. I can think of several better one just sitting here on my couch. Will keep that gotcha in mind, though.

A clean way to remove the 3.3V power would be to go back and forth to either a Molex or a slimline power cable - two adapters into each other.
The new Mac Pro has up to 30 MB of cache inside the processor itself. That's more than the HD in my first Mac. Somehow I'm still running out of space.
     
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Jan 1, 2018, 08:41 PM
 
My replacement drive sleds from OWC arrived. They work as expected, but one thing of note. The box packaging has cutout slots to accommodate both a 2006-2008 MacPro sled, or a 2009-2012 MacPro sled. Someone at OWC thought they'd be selling sleds for both models.

So if you need one for your 2006-2008 MacPro, try contacting OWC customer service. They just might know something, or have a few on hand. Perhaps even production prototypes.
     
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Jan 2, 2018, 08:37 PM
 
Interesting. And ludicrous at the same time. Did the SATA people think everyone would just toss their pre-V3.3 hardware and buy new?

Thanks for putting together a great explanation and fixes for these issues.

Glenn -----OTR/L, MOT, Tx
     
   
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