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Why is porn legal but prostitution isn't?
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Mar 14, 2007, 11:58 AM
 
Isn't porn just prostitution on camera? The actors are paid money to have sex. Some porn is "POV" which means that the guy holding the camera paid the porn actress to have sex with him.

How is this not prostitution?

btw I think prostitution should be legal and this is one line of argument for that case.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 12:09 PM
 
Because sex is a vice.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 01:03 PM
 
Because our politicians are retarded?
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 01:13 PM
 
Did you know you can hire a prostitute and record it with intent to distribute and sell legally?

It should be legal. It's kinda nasty… but should be legal.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 01:15 PM
 
Because we live in a world of double standards. Alcohol is legal, but pot is not. The alcohol industry also has a large lobbying arm, as does the porn industry, which is growing by leaps and bounds.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 01:56 PM
 
Because when you are making movies, the claim can be made that the intent is to create "art", not just to have sex. The same can not be said (even remotely) for getting it on with a prostitute in an alley somewhere.

For porn to be protected by the first amendment, even it has to show some merit above and beyond it's salacious content.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 02:03 PM
 
Originally Posted by stupendousman View Post
Because when you are making movies, the claim can be made that the intent is to create "art", not just to have sex. The same can not be said (even remotely) for getting it on with a prostitute in an alley somewhere.

For porn to be protected by the first amendment, even it has to show some merit above and beyond it's salacious content.
Really? So all these shows and conventions that have been advertised and been on the news are illegal, even though they're conducted out in the open? Somebody ought to wake up the cops, or straighten out the organizers of these events.

The Floating World : : Adult Industry Events and Porn Star Signings: Conventions, Signings, Announcements and Yearly Calendar. NOT SAFE FOR WORK OR CHILDREN OR ADULTS WHO DON'T LIKE THE WORDS PENIS AND VAGINA.

So this has merit above and beyond it's salacious content? Interesting.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 02:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by KarlG View Post
So this has merit above and beyond it's salacious content? Interesting.
If you ask me? No.

But that's how magazines like Playboy and Hustler kept from getting plowed under in the early days of their publication. These days, people are pretty jaded and not phased by this stuff and not many bother to challenge it.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 02:43 PM
 
Originally Posted by stupendousman View Post
The same can not be said (even remotely) for getting it on with a prostitute in an alley somewhere.
Heh, so people don't bother getting motel rooms when they bang prostitutes?
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 02:55 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar² View Post
Heh, so people don't bother getting motel rooms when they bang prostitutes?
Give 'em a break, they're already shelling out $15 for the girl, now you think they need another $20 for a room?
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 03:03 PM
 
Originally Posted by Gossamer View Post
$15 for the girl,
I need to move to wherever you're at. That's cheaper than taking a chick to a movie.

Edit: Apparently we've pissed off imageshack.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 03:04 PM
 
Originally Posted by stupendousman View Post
Because when you are making movies, the claim can be made that the intent is to create "art", not just to have sex. The same can not be said (even remotely) for getting it on with a prostitute in an alley somewhere.

Then you ain't doin' it right.

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Mar 14, 2007, 03:10 PM
 
Sorta back OT:

As has been already said, the porn/prostitution thing can be chalked-up to retardation.

What I'm curious about is the waaay over the top, just freakin' filthy Japanese cartoons...

That they then blur out.

     
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Mar 14, 2007, 03:21 PM
 
Because feminists have such low self-esteem that they feel the need to oppress women.

(Not really, but it sounds better that way.)
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 03:27 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Sorta back OT:

As has been already said, the porn/prostitution thing can be chalked-up to retardation.

What I'm curious about is the waaay over the top, just freakin' filthy Japanese cartoons...

That they then blur out.

Check out the meaning of retardation. It has nothing to do with that.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 03:29 PM
 
Originally Posted by macintologist View Post
Isn't porn just prostitution on camera? The actors are paid money to have sex. Some porn is "POV" which means that the guy holding the camera paid the porn actress to have sex with him.

How is this not prostitution?
Not to defend it, but they do seem different to me. With porn, the guy isn't paying the girl for sex, the profits from selling the pictures/movies to viewers pays the actors.

I guess I just have to do a lot more research on this issue in order to form a proper opinion.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 03:30 PM
 
Originally Posted by BRussell View Post
I guess I just have to do a lot more research on this issue in order to form a proper opinion.
I do research every night. And morning. And lunch break.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 03:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar² View Post
I need to move to wherever you're at. That's cheaper than taking a chick to a movie.

Edit: Apparently we've pissed off imageshack.
I stopped hosting my sigs on my own server a while back, but apparently there were enough hits from the 4K image to make them mad at me, so back to my server it goes. It's okay though, since I've upgraded to a Dual 2.0 G5/4GB now.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 03:40 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar² View Post
I do research every night. And morning. And lunch break.

You must be a lot younger than I.

Last week I told a girl, "Hey baby, let me show you where it's at."

She replied, "You'd better, 'cause the last time I couldn't find it."

     
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Mar 14, 2007, 03:40 PM
 
Originally Posted by KarlG View Post
Check out the meaning of retardation. It has nothing to do with that.

Whack!

Whack!

Okay. Your sarcasm meter has been fixed. That will cost you $.02.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 03:59 PM
 
Do you take VISA?
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 04:08 PM
 
Maybe it's because prostitution is closed-door, and with porn BB can see exactly what you're up too
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 04:10 PM
 
Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton View Post
what you're up to
*giggle*
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 04:18 PM
 
Originally Posted by KarlG View Post
Do you take VISA?

Do I ever.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 04:31 PM
 
Prostitution is legal.

Actually, it's also true that porn is illegal.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 05:02 PM
 
Originally Posted by nonhuman View Post
Prostitution is legal.

Actually, it's also true that porn is illegal.
Porn's legal in more places than prostitution.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 05:36 PM
 
I agree prostitution should be legal and regulated. There would be less crime surrounding it.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 05:47 PM
 
Originally Posted by Monique View Post
I agree prostitution should be legal and regulated. There would be less crime surrounding it.
Same with robbery.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 05:54 PM
 
Originally Posted by Gossamer View Post
Same with robbery.
But, with prostitution you are not taking anything away from anyone by force. Robbery you are taking things away from a person.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 05:59 PM
 
Originally Posted by Gossamer View Post
Same with robbery.
That is not the same thing by any means, wtf.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 06:04 PM
 
I think it's safe to say that if robbery was legalized there would be a higher increase in reciprocal assault crimes than there would be a decrease in illegal robberies.

edit: On second thought, I see the difference is that "robbery" implies that both parties have not consented. Unless you call craigslist free section "robbery." In prostitution (even most cases that are conducted illegally), both parties are consenting.
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 07:48 PM
 
Paying someone to have sex is illegal, but when you put a camera there, it becomes legal, supposedly because of freedom of expression.

So let's say you are a person who enjoys beating people up. Let's say you can find someone who is willing to be beaten up for $200 (say someone who needs the money for drugs). Does it then become legal to beat them up for pay if you put a camera there and claim to be doing a documentary on the effects of violence?
     
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Mar 14, 2007, 08:38 PM
 
I think if they consent it's not illegal even without the camera
     
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Mar 15, 2007, 10:07 AM
 
At least in Germany if a contract can be considered generally immoral, then it is void even if all parties consent.
     
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Mar 18, 2007, 11:40 AM
 
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