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Socially Awkward Solo · Apr 29, 2004, 10:15 AM

Unfortunately like every new release panic app you can find about 3 bugs in 10 seconds of using it but it is still nice.

Wish I was in my desktop more to see this app, personally I always have a browser open covering my desktop.

http://www.panic.com/stattoo/

Silky Voice of The Gorn · Apr 29, 2004, 10:29 AM

Stattoo is a nice try, but ultimately pretty lame. As you say, open windows and apps pretty much block it most of the time, and there is exactly ONE axis you can move it. At least Konfab you can position the modules anywhere on the screen. Maybe if Stattoo could be resized/stacked vertically or something it would be more useful, but otherewise, I give it a hearty "meh".

Socially Awkward Solo · Apr 29, 2004, 10:32 AM

Yep, I don't know what this information on your desktop hype is all about anyway as I don't know ANYONE who sits there with their desktop showing.

Also, the weather cannot be shown in metric.

It seems to use less CPU then that hog Konfabulator.

Silky Voice of The Gorn · Apr 29, 2004, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
Yep, I don't know what this information on your desktop hype is all about anyway as I don't know ANYONE who sits there with their desktop showing.

Also, the weather cannot be shown in metric.

It seems to use less CPU then that hog Konfabulator.

Yup..I played with Kon a bit, it was fun, but ultimately useless, as the menu extras do the same functions smaller, faster and 100% pervasively. I think the sole purpose of Kon is for people who uploads their 'kewl' desktops...

maxintosh · Apr 29, 2004, 10:45 AM

I'm sorry, but I find Stattoo totally lame. There doesn't seem to be a plug-in system and the thing is always obscured by the desktop. Using the hotkey brings it up for about 1/2 second and there doesn't seem to be a way to change it. Plus the text is really hard to read when it's in the background. Yuck.

mishap · Apr 29, 2004, 11:24 AM

I like it, but would like to be able to move it to my second monitor (obviously)

mishap · Apr 29, 2004, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by mishap:
I like it, but would like to be able to move it to my second monitor (obviously)

nevermind. checked preferences. nice!

Immortal K-Mart Employee · Apr 29, 2004, 11:55 AM

Really everything it does is already done, or can be done through a menuling. Plus those are always viewable.

mishap · Apr 29, 2004, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by Immortal K-Mart Employee:
Really everything it does is already done, or can be done through a menuling. Plus those are always viewable.

exactly, but it does it in one app

it is easily visable by "show desktop" expose settings.

plus, it does eveything in one app (what you want). everything looks simple and consistant.

starman · Apr 29, 2004, 12:27 PM

I never understood the need to see my system's stats ALL THE TIME. Windows users do that a lot - like they have to be warned of impending doom

.

Mike

Immortal K-Mart Employee · Apr 29, 2004, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by mishap:
exactly, but it does it in one app

yes but one covered up app that takes up 80x more room then 5 menulings.

Immortal K-Mart Employee · Apr 29, 2004, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by starman:
I never understood the need to see my system's stats ALL THE TIME. Windows users do that a lot - like they have to be warned of impending doom .

Mike

This isn't about stats really, that is left for that silly iPulse thing.

Stattoo is more about weather, date and CD's playing, all of witch is rather unimportant.

starman · Apr 29, 2004, 12:31 PM

Weather's good for me since I sometimes take a walk at lunchtime.

Time is good for me since I need to know if it's time to leave

.

The date's pushing it

.

Mike

Fonzie · Apr 29, 2004, 12:34 PM

The icon is nice. That's about it.

Immortal K-Mart Employee · Apr 29, 2004, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by starman:
Weather's good for me since I sometimes take a walk at lunchtime.

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/8043

starman · Apr 29, 2004, 12:45 PM

I use that. I downloaded Meteorologist since I read that it was a bit better but I haven't tried it yet.

Mike

mitchell_pgh · Apr 29, 2004, 01:35 PM

I installed Stattoo, it was cool, but took up way too much space, also, It didn't have enough options for the view, so I took it off.

Adam Betts · Apr 29, 2004, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by Immortal K-Mart Employee:
This isn't about stats really, that is left for that silly iPulse thing.

Stattoo is more about weather, date and CD's playing, all of which is rather unimportant.

I like Drive Space and Mail. They're somewhat useful

I'm using it on the bottom of second monitor. Liking it so far

Powaqqatsi · Apr 29, 2004, 02:02 PM

Can't you just look through the window if you need to know what weather it is ?

Immortal K-Mart Employee · Apr 29, 2004, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by Powaqqatsi:
Can't you just look through the window if you need to know what weather it is ?

The window doesn't tell me the temperature or the 5 day forecast

DeathMan · Apr 29, 2004, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Powaqqatsi:
Can't you just look through the window if you need to know what weather it is ?

some people work in cubes and don't have that luxury. which is sad.

starman · Apr 29, 2004, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by Powaqqatsi:
Can't you just look through the window if you need to know what weather it is ?

Uh, I can, but last time I checked the window kinda kept me from knowing if I need a jacket. I keep trying to put my hand through it but it doesn't budge. Also, How do I know if there's a massive thunderstorm rolling in from the west? I'm facing east.

Mike

brutal · Apr 29, 2004, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by Adam Betts:
I like Drive Space and Mail. They're somewhat useful

But don't you have to keep the Mail.app running for the Mail-capsule to work?

makes it kinda useless..

They should've made the capsule a standalone pop/imap-checker instead.

Immortal K-Mart Employee · Apr 29, 2004, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by brutal:
makes it kinda useless..

Kinda?

AWShuttleworth · Apr 29, 2004, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
Also, the weather cannot be shown in metric.

Not so. Stattoo respects the U.S./Metric "measurements" preference in the "Formats" tab of the International Preference Pane.

Immortal K-Mart Employee · Apr 29, 2004, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by AWShuttleworth:
Not so. Stattoo respects the U.S./Metric "measurements" preference in the "Formats" tab of the International Preference Pane.

hey you are in Portland, just like Panic, neat.

Anyway, call it a bug then cuz it doesn't work for me even when it is set up properly.

AWShuttleworth · Apr 29, 2004, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Immortal K-Mart Employee:
hey you are in Portland, just like Panic, neat.

Anyway, call it a bug then cuz it doesn't work for me even when it is set up properly.

Other Portland.

I'm not sure what's up with your setup - it definitely worked for me. I had metric chosen the first time i launched Stattoo, and it was correct right off. You realize you have to restart Stattoo, right?

Immortal K-Mart Employee · Apr 29, 2004, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by AWShuttleworth:
I'm not sure what's up with your setup - it definitely worked for me. I had metric chosen the first time i launched Stattoo, and it was correct right off. You realize you have to restart Stattoo, right?

ya these bugs are very typical for Panic apps. I seriously found 3 bugs in under 30 seconds of using it.

ambush · Apr 29, 2004, 03:40 PM

LOLLLL

12.95 FOR THIS

AHHAHAH you can't even have the weather thingy show forecasts... NO SDK for making your thingies.... no ****, this is the worst app I've seen from Panic.

NO WAY !!!!!! PANIC's brand new rip-off!

mishap · Apr 29, 2004, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by Immortal K-Mart Employee:
ya these bugs are very typical for Panic apps. I seriously found 3 bugs in under 30 seconds of using it.

What?

You keep saying that

Immortal K-Mart Employee · Apr 29, 2004, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by mishap:
What?

You keep saying that

Transmit was unusable for over 2 years it was so buggy. It still has lots of bugs with some servers.

Unison was also full of so many bugs the first update a week later cured like 30 bugs. It is still completely useless for me as it crashes when I load some images. Not just on my computer, on every one I tried it on.

rstevens · Apr 29, 2004, 04:30 PM

from the tenor of these posts, you'd think that Panic was increasing the cost of all new computers as well as Pepsi just to cover this app.

the fact that they support dual monitors from the first release puts them about 10 releases ahead of the dock in my book. all they really need to do is make the capsules left-align capable and i'm down.

Dale Sorel · Apr 29, 2004, 05:09 PM

Very cool app... and if you want it to run with no Dock icon go to /Applications/Stattoo.app/Contents/Info.plist and add this:

Code:
<key>LSUIElement</key>
<string>1</string>

mishap · Apr 29, 2004, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by Immortal K-Mart Employee:
Transmit was unusable for over 2 years it was so buggy. It still has lots of bugs with some servers.

Unison was also full of so many bugs the first update a week later cured like 30 bugs. It is still completely useless for me as it crashes when I load some images. Not just on my computer, on every one I tried it on.

That's interesting, but what are your "three bugs" that you "found withing the first 30 seconds" using this app?

Just curious since you've mentioned it twice, but never talked about anything specific at all.

SomeToast · Apr 29, 2004, 06:00 PM

Now that they've got this off their plate, maybe they can devote some development resources to Audion.

Socially Awkward Solo · Apr 29, 2004, 10:17 PM

Originally posted by mishap:
That's interesting, but what are your "three bugs" that you "found withing the first 30 seconds" using this app?

Just curious since you've mentioned it twice, but never talked about anything specific at all.

Metric system doesn't work, The app wouldn't let me open the prefs if I moved the app. It crashed when changing modules.

MacGorilla · Apr 29, 2004, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by starman:
I never understood the need to see my system's stats ALL THE TIME. Windows users do that a lot - like they have to be warned of impending doom .

Mike

I think they do

Spliff · Apr 30, 2004, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by SomeToast:
Now that they've got this off their plate, maybe they can devote some development resources to Audion.

Yeah, no sh*t. Audion has been languishing. No updates for over a year.

Since EBCDIC · Apr 30, 2004, 01:32 AM

Speaking of reading prefs, I find it frustratingly amusing that the time prefs (I prefer 24-hour clock with leading zero, as in 09:00) is ignored. I presume the time prefs are ignored as well.

Laughingly, expose moves these desktop apps out of the way. That's the one way I was sure I could quickly see it.

Oh well, it's a nice first cut. I'm looking forward to seeing what they do next.

brutal · Apr 30, 2004, 05:31 AM

Originally posted by Immortal K-Mart Employee:
Kinda?

kinda
adv: to some (great or small) extent;
"it was kinda cold"; "the party was kinda nice"; "the knife is kinda dull"; "I kinda regret that I cannot attend"; "He's kinda good at playing the cello"; "he is kinda shy"
[syn: rather, kind of, sort of]

Millennium · Apr 30, 2004, 05:56 AM

I'd heard something a while back about releasing some sort of an SDK. As of now, though, that SDK doesn't seem to be offered. I hope this is corrected soon.

lngtones · Apr 30, 2004, 06:06 AM

Originally posted by Millennium:
I'd heard something a while back about releasing some sort of an SDK. As of now, though, that SDK doesn't seem to be offered. I hope this is corrected soon.

It doesn't seem like that's the intention:

http://stevenf.com/mt/archives/000574.php

Millennium · May 1, 2004, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by lngtones:
It doesn't seem like that's the intention:

http://stevenf.com/mt/archives/000574.php

Pity. That makes it significantly less useful for me. There are only two capsules (not counting those which duplicate the functionality of menulings built into the OS) which I can even use, and one of them (weather) doesn't seem to be working right. With an SDK, more modules could be built, or existing ones could be improved (for example, the Mail one could be made to not lock you into Mail.app).