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rcarlosnyc · May 11, 2006, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by hickey

its interesting that the 17"er didnt come with the magsafe power connector. Anyone have any ideas why?

Originally Posted by pat++

what are you talking about? the 17" does have the magsafe connector...

Maybe he went to buy a MacBook Pro and picked up a PowerBook my accident.

elcheapo · May 11, 2006, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by rcarlosnyc

Maybe he went to buy a MacBook Pro and picked up a PowerBook my accident.

LOL well stranger things have happened, cat's chewing and pissing on the magsafe, people buying MBP off the street, etc

pjmurphy · May 11, 2006, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by vdrummer

did you follow the User's Guide instructions (p. 66)? you need to hook up external keybd & mouse.

I was hoping the remote could wake the MBP up..

Chris Grande · May 11, 2006, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by pjmurphy

I was hoping the remote could wake the MBP up..

I'm able to wake and put a Intel iMac to sleep using the remote.

rcarlosnyc · May 11, 2006, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Chris Grande

I'm able to wake and put a Intel iMac to sleep using the remote.

The iMac doesn't have a lid that closes.

pat++ · May 11, 2006, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by pjmurphy

I was hoping the remote could wake the MBP up..

Apple needs to add something to automatically open the lid with the remote

foobar · May 12, 2006, 12:57 AM

I stopped by the local MacMall store today and checked out the 15" MBP they had (sorry no 17" models yet out for display) and man-o-man was the screen on that thing horrible! The entire bottom right corner (and partway up the right side of the screen) was really dim compared to other machines they had out -- it was made worse by loading up Safari and loading a page that had a lot of white (such as Google's main page) being displayed.. I can tell you that I'd rather not own that machine..

Anyone care to comment on whether the 17" models exhibit this sort of dim/bright spot issue? There was a 17" powerbook next to it and it didn't exhibit the same issue.. Just curious as I'd love to get an MBP, but will easily get a refurb PB17 if these sort of issues persist for the vast majority of machines being manufactured. I'm looking to buy within the next week or two..

Many TIA!

Frans · May 13, 2006, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by pete

Yes, but these problems have nothing to do with the Intel chips -they are all quality, design and assembly issues. IF Apple used a Sony xbrite display it would be perfect too. It's the choice of display that is problematic.

Couldn't agree more: used to have a Vaio TR-1 (subnotebook) and a Vaio S 13" widescreen laptop, both with X-brite screens. Amazingly sharp and coulourfull. I'm really unhappy with the displays that apple is using in laptops....

powerbook867 · May 13, 2006, 10:43 PM

This whole thread is really disappointing to me. I planned on buying a new machine + Aperture in the near future for my photography work, but I need the screen on my laptop to be more than OK...

Maybe rev B will be improved by the time I am ready to buy...

pat++ · May 14, 2006, 05:56 AM

I saw the 17" and 15" MacBook Pro at the Apple store yesterday. The screen on the 17" seems to be much brighter than the 15". No uneven illumination on the 17". White was pinkish on the 15" compared to the 17" which was really white. Screen is beautiful. There was only a light stripe at the very bottom of the screen... The 17" was feeling cooler than the 15". Oh yeah, and I tried the new two fingers right click which is pretty cool on the 17" !

gkorsgard · May 14, 2006, 10:06 AM

I know we are supposed to complain about the new 17" MBP, but I got mine last week and it is great no complaints here, and I am a lifelong Apple fan! Sorry for not whining about a new product....

alex_kac · May 16, 2006, 12:15 AM

I'm on a 15'' MBP right now (my wife's) and I just don't see any uneven illumination at all. Its a very good display compared to what I have on my Dell's XPS.

b1NARY73 · May 16, 2006, 12:27 AM

My Screen is great, maybe we need to calibrate the monitor..... or use a different screen calibration...

onlykaria · May 16, 2006, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by MovieCutter

A "gap" is a non-issue. Mine doesn't have any "gaps" but my 15" MBP had what you would consider a gap, but it never affected usability or function of the machine. I never noticed it and stored it the same way I do all my laptops. Why is this even a concern?

my old 15' in had the gap in addition to all its other problems and what it ment for me is that I was unable to carry the thing around in my backpack in sleep mode because it would turn itself on. I had been doing this with my old ibook for one point five years. and carrying it around was the main reason I got a laptop.

as I read this thread I am wondering if I should of tried to get the 17in upgrade from apple as it does not seem to have the problems of the 15in.

thag-simmons · May 16, 2006, 04:21 PM

I posted my first impressions in the 17" delivery times thread.
Here are my Cinebench scores:

CINEBENCH 9.5
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Tester : thag

Processor : MacBook Pro 17
MHz : 2160
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : OS X 10.4.6

Graphics Card : Radeon X1600 not overclocked
Resolution : 1680 x 1050
Color Depth : 32bit

************************************************** **

Rendering (Single CPU): 328 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 624 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.90

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 378 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1471 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 2626 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 6.95

************************************************** **

WOPR · May 16, 2006, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by pat++

Apple needs to add something to automatically open the lid with the remote

A hefty spring should do it. BOING!!

ghettochild · May 19, 2006, 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by markponcelet

My new MBP 17" has an option in the trackpad preferences that reads, "Tap trackpad using two fingers for secondary click."

Dunno if the other MBPs have it, but my Rev D. powerbook 17" doesn't. Works like a charm. No idea yet if it works under bootcamp, but I'll give it a try.

Mark

since apple is seeding 10.4.7 to developers, does anybody know if the trackpad feature is included for the 15" MBP and previous PBs?

sbc · May 19, 2006, 08:18 AM

Questions...

What is the battery life?

As far as weight, does it feel portable or somewhat heavy?

alex_kac · May 19, 2006, 12:32 PM

Actually, I've hard from people that the new 15'' in the Apple Stores have the new trackpad feature. So that tells me its going to be in the future software updates for sure.

Chris Grande · May 19, 2006, 05:44 PM

What build are these machines running?

alex_kac · May 19, 2006, 09:26 PM

I don't know - my friend didn't tell me. He was just at the Apple store a couple days ago and mentioned it to me. He's in California. I'm about an hour a way from the Apple store so I'm not going to go find out myself