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New Features of Tiger iChat
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What are all the new features of Tiger iChat? So far (barring the obvious AV advances) I've heard profile editing, inline groups, and ability to easily switch accounts. Albeit more will probably be added, I just want to know what the progress is so far. (Pics are welcome )
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Can we PLEASE get tabbed chats? I hate having eleventy fillion windows open littering my screen. Give me one window with tabs that feature a buddy icon/name. Efficient, simple, lovable. German.
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Originally posted by SafariX:
Can we PLEASE get tabbed chats? I hate having eleventy fillion windows open littering my screen. Give me one window with tabs that feature a buddy icon/name. Efficient, simple, lovable. German.
Tabbed iChat is a straight shooter with upper management written all over it.
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Originally posted by nforcer:
Tabbed iChat is a straight shooter with upper management written all over it.
Yeeeeaaah. I'm going to have to sort of... disagree.
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how about support for the MSN protocol, so that I can ditch all third-party IM apps?
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Originally posted by nooon:
how about support for the MSN protocol, so that I can ditch all third-party IM apps?
iChat doesn't have that directly, and isn't likely to ever do so. However, it's worth noting that Tiger's iChat supports the XMPP protocol, also known as Jabber. In fact, Tiger Server includes a Jabber server built in.
What's the big deal with this? It turns out that Jabber is famous for what it calls "transports" on the server end, which act as gateways to other IM services, including AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, IRC, and a couple of others.
In other words, by giving iChat XMPP support, they have indirectly given it multi-protocol IM support as well; it's just a matter of setting it all up. Expect a good UI for that to come out within a couple of days of Tiger's release; this one is too big for third parties to just pass up.
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Me wants my MSN protocol doowacky!!
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Originally posted by Agasthya:
Yeeeeaaah. I'm going to have to sort of... disagree.
Didn't you get the memo?
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You see, we're putting coversheets on our RTA (Request to Apple) reports from now on. So if you could do that from now on, that would be greaaaaaat. mmmkay? Oh, and I'll make sure you get another copy of that memo.
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I would enjoy having tabbed IM windows, but I'm pretty sure that won't be happening anytime soon thanks to the UI of the AV portion of iChat. I am excited for the different protocols though, that's pretty damn sweet
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Originally posted by Millennium:
iChat doesn't have that directly, and isn't likely to ever do so. However, it's worth noting that Tiger's iChat supports the XMPP protocol, also known as Jabber. In fact, Tiger Server includes a Jabber server built in.
What's the big deal with this? It turns out that Jabber is famous for what it calls "transports" on the server end, which act as gateways to other IM services, including AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, IRC, and a couple of others.
In other words, by giving iChat XMPP support, they have indirectly given it multi-protocol IM support as well; it's just a matter of setting it all up. Expect a good UI for that to come out within a couple of days of Tiger's release; this one is too big for third parties to just pass up.
I knew they added support for something, I just didn't not what. I noticed Steve's iChat no longer had the AIM guy. That was the first clue.
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Hopefully they make a better icon, I'm not a fan of the new one...too bland.
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hows about an ichat widget/gadget for dashboard so i don't have to keep switching between mail/safari/whatever-other-app-i-may-be-using to ichat then back
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Originally posted by Millennium:
iChat doesn't have that directly, and isn't likely to ever do so. However, it's worth noting that Tiger's iChat supports the XMPP protocol, also known as Jabber. In fact, Tiger Server includes a Jabber server built in.
What's the big deal with this? It turns out that Jabber is famous for what it calls "transports" on the server end, which act as gateways to other IM services, including AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, IRC, and a couple of others.
In other words, by giving iChat XMPP support, they have indirectly given it multi-protocol IM support as well; it's just a matter of setting it all up. Expect a good UI for that to come out within a couple of days of Tiger's release; this one is too big for third parties to just pass up.
ALLLLRIGHT! I love how iChat works. I have always wanted to be able to do this.
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Here is the feeback I sent to Apple for iChat :
I watched the WWDC keynote, and noticed that Steve said iChat does not support opening several windows when doing video conference.
I think it would be *very* usefull to have an option in iChat's preferences to let the user choose to have several windows or a single one with the 3D effect as demonstrated during the keynote. Particularly if you have 2 displays on your Mac, and you want to put one video on each display (fullscreen or not). This can't be done if we don't have the option to have a separate window for each video. Plus I'm pretty sure some people would prefer to have a plain flat window instead of the 3D effect.
How cool would it be to have a video chat with 2 other persons, each one on a 30" cinema display
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Originally posted by pat++:
How cool would it be to have a video chat with 2 other persons, each one on a 30" cinema display
Not very cool, considering that streaming video across the net doesn't get a high enough bitrate to go full screen.
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Originally posted by madmacgames:
Not very cool, considering that streaming video across the net doesn't get a high enough bitrate to go full screen.
You know that iChat can already do fullscreen video conf, don't you?
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It does full screan... just not enough rez to fill a 30inch cin display and make it look acceptable. It would look like utter trash on that beauity!
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Originally posted by wuzup101:
It does full screan... just not enough rez to fill a 30inch cin display and make it look acceptable. It would look like utter trash on that beauity!
Seing how it scales the 640x480 video right now I'd assume that it would look acceptable with the new h264 codec even on a 30" screen.
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Originally posted by crystalthunder:
and ability to easily switch accounts.
I already do switch accounts very easily. Can't see what needs to be changed here.
Btw, This is 'software' isnt it?
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I heard you can change accounts directly through the menus instead of having to open the preference pane or something like that.
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Originally posted by Millennium:
iChat doesn't have that directly, and isn't likely to ever do so. However, it's worth noting that Tiger's iChat supports the XMPP protocol, also known as Jabber. In fact, Tiger Server includes a Jabber server built in.
What's the big deal with this? It turns out that Jabber is famous for what it calls "transports" on the server end, which act as gateways to other IM services, including AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, IRC, and a couple of others.
In other words, by giving iChat XMPP support, they have indirectly given it multi-protocol IM support as well; it's just a matter of setting it all up. Expect a good UI for that to come out within a couple of days of Tiger's release; this one is too big for third parties to just pass up.
Is this perhaps the advantage to having an @Mac.com screen name? Because you won't have to change screen names if Apple were to host its own Jabber server at the Mac.com domain?
For those that don't know, Jabber screen names take the form of [email protected]ever. The idea being that your screen name is the same as your e-mail address, which Apple also seems to agree with. Makes me think that maybe Jabber support was in the works from the very beginning in at least some limited fashion.
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Originally posted by Grrr:
I already do switch accounts very easily. Can't see what needs to be changed here.
Btw, This is 'software' isnt it?
When you're online, there's now an option to immediately switch to another screenname (you don't have to sign off, switch names, sign on--so one step instead of three)
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sweet ... what will become of software like adium now?
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Originally posted by Lancer409:
sweet ... what will become of software like adium now?
Disappear to everyone but the people that only care about customization.
iChat will become the best IM client by the time Tiger ships. And the iChat team has gotten better too.
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Does iChat still sign you out automatically when you switch users?
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Originally posted by Agasthya:
Yeeeeaaah. I'm going to have to sort of... disagree.
Hahaha
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Originally posted by Lancer409:
sweet ... what will become of software like adium now?
Adium has plenty of fanboys. It's a nice piece of software, but I think iChat will suit my passive needs in IM (would rather keep it, for the most part, in my menu than my Dock).
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Originally posted by Stradlater:
Adium has plenty of fanboys. It's a nice piece of software, but I think iChat will suit my passive needs in IM (would rather keep it, for the most part, in my menu than my Dock).
Whee! Let's call software dead now 9 months before what you guys are talking about will be released. WHOO!!!
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