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Mar 13, 2009, 02:04 PM
 
Two days after lifting the ban for federal funding on embryonic stem cell research, he signs the omnibus, which contains a provision OUTLAWING embryonic research of any kind.

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What a buffoon.
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Mar 13, 2009, 02:09 PM
 
You are aware of separation of powers, no?

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Mar 13, 2009, 02:16 PM
 
Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey View Post
You are aware of separation of powers, no?
Bah, it's still a great FAIL.

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Mar 13, 2009, 02:19 PM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
Bah, it's still a great FAIL.

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*Shrug* As I understand it, the amendment in question was still in force from previous spending bills when he lifted the executive ban anyway. Some Dems on Congress were already talking about it when he signed the executive order. That's the next step on that particular agenda.

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Mar 13, 2009, 02:53 PM
 
Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey View Post
You are aware of separation of powers, no?
Yeah, and you're aware he had multiple opportunities to control what was placed in that bill, or even to veto it because of all the earmarks, aren't you?
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Originally Posted by Macrobat View Post
Yeah, and you're aware he had multiple opportunities to control what was placed in that bill, or even to veto it because of all the earmarks, aren't you?
Sure, but to say this makes him a "buffoon" is pretty strong. You can't tackle everything at once. As I mentioned, I'm pretty sure this amendment (which has been a recurring feature in many spending bills over the years) was already in force when he signed the executive order. It's been talked about before. By necessity, both the legislative amendment and the executive order have to be dealt with to make any headway on the issue. The executive order was low-hanging fruit, and paves the way to fight the legislative amendment another day.

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Mar 13, 2009, 09:33 PM
 
It's nice to see the Libs on the defensive. You guys should get used to that feeling for the next 4 years.
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Where's that damn hot dog guy?
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Where's that damn hot dog guy?
You have a hot date with the Knicks?
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I thought this was a Knicks game?
     
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Originally Posted by Shaddim View Post
It's nice to see the Libs on the defensive. You guys should get used to that feeling for the next 4 years.
If no one responded to overreaching arguments, the PWL would be very quiet.

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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Where's that damn hot dog guy?


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Mar 14, 2009, 06:13 AM
 
Obamas stance on anything only lasts until the echo of his words die out. Even if he were to be impeached, we'd still have the official VP dolt running things....oh, Wait it would still be Nancy Pelosi.
     
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Mar 14, 2009, 02:09 PM
 
Obama during the campaign: "I'm going to make things better!"

Obama today: "I'm going to try to keep things from getting worse!"

Damn, he sure lowered his sights.
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Go Tigers!
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Go Tigers!

They lost to the might Vols, 85-94.
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How about that, Obama says he bowl like a Special Olympian. And people were worried about Biden making gaffes.
     
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Mar 20, 2009, 01:51 PM
 
I was waiting for someone to mention that. So I could say, man, I wouldn't mind having a beer with Obama.
     
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OK, ready for this?

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Someone had to say it.
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Originally Posted by Dakar V View Post
I was waiting for someone to mention that. So I could say, man, I wouldn't mind having a beer with Obama.
May I suggest..
     
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
How about that, Obama says he bowl like a Special Olympian.
That was pretty bad and a surprising lack of thought or control for someone (Obama) who normally has it.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Where's that damn hot dog guy?
Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
I thought this was a Knicks game?
Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Go Tigers!
WTF ?

If you have nothing to contribute, why don't you STFU ?

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Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
WTF ?

If you have nothing to contribute, why don't you STFU ?

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Wow, thanks for bringing up something from 6 days ago. Quite the contribution.
     
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Originally Posted by Dakar V View Post
Wow, thanks for bringing up something from 6 days ago. Quite the contribution.
Why do you always have to add some retarded remark ?

I guess that's what Dakar is all about...

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Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
Why do you always have to add some retarded remark ?

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How exactly is it retarded?
     
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Originally Posted by Dakar V View Post
How exactly is it retarded?
Because it really doesn't matter.

Why would calling someone out on inane comments be less valid after 6 days ?
Does the right to criticize laps after 5 days ?

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Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
Because it really doesn't matter.

How would calling someone out on inane comments be less valid after 6 days ?
Does the right to criticize laps after 5 days ?

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Less valid, no. Pointless and possibly counter-productive? Yes. Especially if you're concerned about posts in the thread making "contributions".

Pointing this out is my contribution to you. No need to thank me.
     
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Originally Posted by Cold Warrior View Post
That was pretty bad and a surprising lack of thought or control for someone (Obama) who normally has it.
Yeah, that's something I'd expect from a high school student hangin' with the guys, not the prez on national TV.

Totally inappropriate statement.


Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
Why do you always have to add some retarded remark ?

I guess that's what Dakar is all about...
Now, now guys... Arguing on the internet is like... Oh wait...
     
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What we need in here is a real good fight!

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This game that we have going on here reminds me of the special olympics
     
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Now, now guys... Arguing on the internet is like... Oh wait...
Nicely done.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
This game that we have going on here reminds me of the special olympics
Because you're discussing Slowbama?
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May I suggest..
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Arguing on the internet is like bowling with Obama...

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Obama-Biden top 10 Gaffes
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So, what is the point of this thread?
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
So, what is the point of this thread?
I think just to highlight the lack of common sense displayed by Obama and Biden. It's the same as when Bush was in office and we had threads making fun of the way he said things.
     
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Obama-Biden top 10 Gaffes
Looks like BO-JB's new name is DTB.
Heh. That's great.

As for #9 though, that's just amusing. Most of the other gaffes are pretty inconsequential. #1 - the bowling one - stands out by far.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
So, what is the point of this thread?
To make fun of of the president, like you guys did when Bush was in power. Live with it.
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Making fun of the president is fair game and good fun at that, but I don't understand the comparisons to Bush. The fact that Bush would bumble around was mostly icing on the cake given that overall, eloquence and speaking articulately was not one of his strong suits (as I'm sure most of us will agree with). Obama has bumbled around and surely will again, but I don't think any sober individual can claim that he is not an eloquent and articulate speaker. I've seen some Republicans in here sort of go on about Obama's teleprompter, but he has in fact written many of his own speeches. His use of a teleprompter is there to smooth things out, not to feed him good things to say that are being manufactured somewhere else. The notion of him being a puppet is just silly.

Concessions are a valuable tool for debate. Any audience grows numb to just relentless one-sided ideological lecturing. If you are going to offer any sort of concession, Obama's speaking abilities is surely as good a candidate as anything else.
     
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I am almost tempted to agree with the OP purely on the strength of his trenchant neologism, beclowns.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Making fun of the president is fair game and good fun at that, but I don't understand the comparisons to Bush. The fact that Bush would bumble around was mostly icing on the cake given that overall, eloquence and speaking articulately was not one of his strong suits (as I'm sure most of us will agree with).
It's also becoming more and more clear that it's not one of Obama's strong suits either, unless he's fed his lines via teleprompter. I'm not saying he's as bad "off the cuff" as Bush, but it seems as though talking without prepared responses still is above his "pay grade". Dan Quayle could do "good speech" and didn't bumble his words either. That doesn't mean he didn't deserve scorn when he said something that sounded really stupid, and most people heaped it on him.

Obama has bumbled around and surely will again, but I don't think any sober individual can claim that he is not an eloquent and articulate speaker.
...when reciting words prepared for him. Big whoop. I'd hope the guy in power could talk without either fumbling for an answer or staying something totally stupid when he wasn't being fed lines. We knew Biden couldn't do the latter, and it appears that Obama suffers from a little of both.

I've seen some Republicans in here sort of go on about Obama's teleprompter, but he has in fact written many of his own speeches. His use of a teleprompter is there to smooth things out, not to feed him good things to say that are being manufactured somewhere else. The notion of him being a puppet is just silly.
I don't think he's a "puppet". I think he does what he wants. I do though think that he's in over his head and that leads to him having communication problems when he doesn't have anything prepared. I CAN give a good speech on just about any subject you like if I can prepare in advance and I get to read it off a teleprompter. That doesn't mean I've got the intellect and ability to discuss the matters at hand without that added advantage.
     
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I just don't see it, stupendousman. He has done fine at his press conferences, the debates, in interviews, etc. on the whole.
     
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The notion of him being a puppet is just silly.
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I don't think he's a "puppet". I think he does what he wants. I do though think that he's in over his head and that leads to him having communication problems when he doesn't have anything prepared. I CAN give a good speech on just about any subject you like if I can prepare in advance and I get to read it off a teleprompter. That doesn't mean I've got the intellect and ability to discuss the matters at hand without that added advantage.
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Beclowns himself. Interesting word.

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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
I just don't see it, stupendousman. He has done fine at his press conferences, the debates, in interviews, etc. on the whole.
You don't see it because you don't want to. If he such a master of the spoken word, and has such a mastery of they issues, why does he need the teleprompter for even the slightest statement? He can't give 15 minute speech without it.

Even those things you mentioned are not "off the cuff" they are a series of scripted or pre-approved questions/issues.

It's a simple question; If he is so brilliant why the reliance on the teleprompter?
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A teleprompter is just electronic cue cards. It is irrational to make the jump that the only way to be a master of the spoken word is to have every speech memorized. Everybody that has ever given a speech has prepared for it somehow, that's the whole point of a speech - it is a set of prepared statements.

How do you think that a teleprompter is giving Obama answers to reporter questions at press conferences, interviews, and debates? Will you really go so far as to say that all of the questions are scripted and that the entire media is in collusion with the administration?
     
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We've been completely and utterly saturated with Obama interviews, speeches, rallies, debates, forums, etc. for years now. Where was Obama's Katie Couric moment? I'm pretty certain I know what your feelings are about the Palin/Couric interview stupendousman, so we don't have to go there, but I think it is safe to say that many felt that Palin came across as not prepared for that interview. Where is Obama's Couric interview? You have a much larger sample to choose from, so you should be able to find something...

I'm not talking about relatively inconsequential gaffes like the whole special olympics thing either, I'm talking about just sounding like he is literally unable to answer a policy related question articulately.
     
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Two days after lifting the ban for federal funding on embryonic stem cell research, he signs the omnibus, which contains a provision OUTLAWING embryonic research of any kind.
I think it says you can't use money generated from that appropriations bill on any embryonic stem cell research. It's not a blanket ban.
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