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May 5, 2019, 08:24 AM
 
or takeout containers, that'll be big. We have compostable containers at work now, for most things like sandwiches they are fine.
     
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May 5, 2019, 02:57 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
I’d appreciate the sentiment more if that name didn’t suck.
I have to agree about the clumsy name. For most of us in the US, “Native Americans Day” might work well. Unfortunately, the first indigenous peoples Columbus and his bunch encountered were living on one of the Eastern Caribbean islands, probably one of Bahamas’ Plana Cays. Here “Native American” wouldn’t mean exactly the same thing that most ‘Mericans think of.

On the other hand, the idea of the “Indiginous Peoples Day” lends itself beyond merely noting that Columbus’ group found inhabited lands (that were anything but India, which he said he was going to find). It helps point out the fact that there are cultures and societies that European adventurers destroyed. And it can be extended to increase awareness of how badly we handled the expansion of the United States westward.

But as far as a catchy title goes, the name still sucks.

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May 5, 2019, 03:40 PM
 
When I wrote that I was thinking “Native Peoples’ Day”, but I’m not liking that as much now.
     
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First Nations, but that also does not include eskimos/caribbean peoples.
     
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The underlying problem is horse trading holidays as atonement for genocide is bullshit.
     
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May 5, 2019, 06:33 PM
 
I kind of feel sorry for the people in India when people say Indians and refer to Native Americans instead.
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Originally Posted by mindwaves View Post
I kind of feel sorry for the people in India when people say Indians and refer to Native Americans instead.
Well, until they can ride horses and are proficient with bow, arrow and tomahawks, I have no pity.

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In the UK, aren’t Indians called Asians?
     
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In the UK, aren’t Indians called Asians?
No, they are called Pakis. Duh.

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Yes, and:

Maine Becomes 1st State To Ban Single-Use Foam Containers
In other words, no more "hot coffee into a styrofoam cup which you then crinkle and discard into the trash once it's empty"
Honest question: How does the man on street in the US feel about this? Because we made this change in Sweden some time back in the late eighties (though it was more local regulations than a national law, IIRC) and most of Europe have done the same by now. I always wondered why the US never did this, if it was something that you just couldn't legislate on and get re-elected or what. Because it's not like it's a new idea.
The new Mac Pro has up to 30 MB of cache inside the processor itself. That's more than the HD in my first Mac. Somehow I'm still running out of space.
     
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May 6, 2019, 09:51 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
The underlying problem is horse trading holidays as atonement for genocide is bullshit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Sorry_Day
     
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Originally Posted by P View Post
Honest question: How does the man on street in the US feel about this? Because we made this change in Sweden some time back in the late eighties (though it was more local regulations than a national law, IIRC) and most of Europe have done the same by now. I always wondered why the US never did this, if it was something that you just couldn't legislate on and get re-elected or what. Because it's not like it's a new idea.
Hard to answer this. My best guess follows. More progressive demographics (typically younger) are for "cleaning up" the planet by investing long-term in more biodegradable/environmentally products, even though many of these require energy from the planet due to recycling. They're in it also for the "self-care revolution," as many of them are also turning to plants and natural medicines, e.g., essential oils. Whereas more traditional/rural demographics just use whatever is available, and create their own crafts. They do not care to spend significant amounts of money, time, or thought into new investments that had to be manufactured and made for them. Instead, they work with their hands (e.g., fix an old fan instead of buying a new one, buying local instead of buying wholesale even if it's 50% cheaper), because they see that as more environmentally responsible than buying something new that took a lot more energy (in the physics sense) to create. The demographic distribution between these two can be at one pole in one corner of the state and yet be at the opposite pole in the opposite corner of the same state. It can also vary town to town.
     
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That’s the right idea.
     
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According to NASA-supported research, some time into the future, comets will kill us all.
     
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When that happens, it’s really going to suck if we don’t figure out some way to warm up a planet.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
When that happens, it’s really going to suck if we don’t figure out some way to warm up a planet.


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Today I learned the Star Trek people wanted Jerry Lewis and not Joe Piscopo for that awful episode where Data learns about “comedy”.
     
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Originally Posted by And.reg View Post
According to NASA-supported research, some time into the future, comets will kill us all.
Unrelated: what a horrid UI that site has. A permanent, unclosable, autoplay video that takes up 1/3 of the screen? Why not!
     
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Wasn't there a woman who got in a fight with an airline over her emotional support duck? Or Peacock or Swan or something.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Well not a swan, but here's what I found:

Peacock - Squirrel - some other animals
     
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Well not a swan, but here's what I found:

Peacock - Squirrel - some other animals
I believe this sort of thing is directly mentioned in the book of Revelations as one of the signs that its the end of days and the apocalypse is approaching,
This space for Hire! Reasonable rates. Reach an audience of literally dozens!
     
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Jun 22, 2019, 01:00 PM
 
lol people's jobs are hard enough, imagine a librarian getting asked, "Can I bring in my emotional support parakeet? I'll keep her on a leash"
     
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Jun 22, 2019, 02:37 PM
 
Found another use for an emotional support duck, you may start laughing at the end of the video:

     
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Jun 22, 2019, 04:29 PM
 
I’m feeling sorry for this generation of snow flakes.
They are obviously not able to deal with basic challenges of life.
And what’s worse - all the non-sense they are going to support and vote for. They are ripe for picking by unscrupulous politicians.

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Just like the legions of Fox-News brainwashed baby boomers who think penniless foreigners fleeing drug wars pose a threat to their way of life.
     
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Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
Just like the legions of Fox-News brainwashed baby boomers who think penniless foreigners fleeing drug wars pose a threat to their way of life.
So, by your logic, we should just let half of Middle- and South-America into the USA ?

Do you have a plan how this could be done without chaos ?
How are we going to provide housing, education, food, medical services etc for hundreds of millions, that, btw, are penniless ?

I think I know what you’re going to say next:

“It’s not going to be hundreds of millions.”

Really, what’s your plan to guarantee it’s not ?
How many millions of immigrants per year do you think would come ?
What immigration restrictions would you be willing to accept to prevent more than that ?

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Jun 23, 2019, 12:40 PM
 
Give me your tired, your poor
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free
- excerpt from The New Colossus, associated with the Statue of Liberty.

Apparently we have a long history of importing low-wage workers, so none of us have to take those jobs. Perhaps reasonable border checks like in years past, so they have to work at it to sneak in. And only do deportations when they're arrested for crimes? After all, those onions are not going to pick themselves.
     
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Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
So, by your logic...

...I think I know what you’re going to say next:
Uncanny, it’s like watching Laura Ingram in a forum post. Those filthy darkies are coming for your country, Turlte, better round them up in concentration camps at the border, tearing infants away from their parents, that’s the way to deal with it.

I’d give them an easy path to citizenship and pay them to rebuild our crumbling nation, I’d pay them by levying massive taxes on the corporate criminals and Wall Street felons, I’d freeze every cent of money these crooks have illegally sheltered from taxes for decades, and use their ill-gotten thievery to revive a sense of common purpose for the poor and middle class.

What’s really hilarious is the father away from the border you get the more adamant Trumpers are about building the wall, almost as if the whole situation is being used to tap into a deep seated fear and hatred of our southern neighbors, a fine American brand of nationalistic racism. This disgusting inhumanity will be yet another stain on our country, at a time when we could have used our great wealth and influence to reinvent ourselves, we’ve reverted back to little more than scared fascists.

Have a great day

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Edit: This is becoming PWL material, probably shouldn’t have responding to lame-ass “snowflakes” bait but I did, I will not be commenting on this offshoot any further, couldn’t help myself, something about having a toddler and seeing small children being caged like animals makes me mad, weird right?
     
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Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
Edit: This is becoming PWL material
Yeah really I’m waiting for the thread to take 5 and cool off
     
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Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
Uncanny, it’s like watching Laura Ingram in a forum post. Those filthy darkies are coming for your country, Turlte, better round them up in concentration camps at the border, tearing infants away from their parents, that’s the way to deal with it.
Well, I could resort to a personal attack, but I refrain, because I give you the benefit of the doubt.
(Part of me thinks you disqualified yourself by invoking Godwin's law.)

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I’d give them an easy path to citizenship and pay them to rebuild our crumbling nation, I
I actually agree with you.

Let them come in, give the the right to work, but stop giving free handouts to them (and anybody else).
Let them earn their way to prosperity, like other immigrants did in the US.

Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
I’d pay them by levying massive taxes on the corporate criminals and Wall Street felons, I’d freeze every cent of money these crooks have illegally sheltered from taxes for decades, and use their ill-gotten thievery to revive a sense of common purpose for the poor and middle class.
I actually mostly agree with you as well.
Wall Street, the big banks *AND* corrupt politicians have screwed up our free markets, picking winners and losers.
This has to stop.

People should be able to get rich by hard work, but not by exploitation or political favors.

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What’s really hilarious is the father away from the border you get
LOL, last I checked, you are further away from the border than me. Does this make your opinion worth less ?
And I don't think you realize what a clusterf*ck the border states have become.
The current system is untenable.

Neither the wall nor untethered immigration is a solution.

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Trumpers are about building the wall, almost as if the whole situation is being used to tap into a deep seated fear and hatred of our southern neighbors, a fine American brand of nationalistic racism. This disgusting inhumanity will be yet another stain on our country, at a time when we could have used our great wealth and influence to reinvent ourselves, we’ve reverted back to little more than scared fascists.
I don't think the wall is a great solution.
It wouldn't be necessary if other things got fixed in this country.

But absent fixing other issues (Social Security, medical system / monopolies, Federal Reserve system that enriches those closest to the money spigot etc...), the system can't take unrestrained immigration.
And THAT was my whole point, before you started accusing me af a whole slew of things.

Well, I think kept it civil

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Jun 23, 2019, 09:46 PM
 
Just to stoke a little fire here, my local paper featured an item about this subject. The Pew Center estimates that the number of unauthorized immigrants from Mexico dropped from 7 million in 2007 to 5.5 million in 2016. Indications are that the rate of illegal immigrations through our southern border is falling - and is at an all time low.

Now, can we get back on track before this thread swirls down the tubes?

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The media manipulates, sometimes on purpose, sometimes not. Interestingly, the (alleged) mainstream, left wing media is a free market while the right wing media is for all intents and purposes a monopoly. There are fewer big players, even fewer big owners and they almost all read from the same page all the time. When you see one of the big boys report a particularly crazy story, its always framed "Reports are saying..." or some other lawsuit proofing word choice and you can always follow those stories back to a single crazy blogger in a dingy basement somewhere who doesn't have enough money to be worth suing. But every other outlet runs with it.
The left wing media are much more ready to criticise each other, themselves, their supposed political favourites and anything else. Not so much the right who will largely back anything Trump says, anything Alex Jones says, etc etc. It would be a touching level of co-operative support if they weren't doing such despicable things with it.
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They are ripe for picking by unscrupulous politicians.
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Just to stoke a little fire here...

Now, can we get back on track before this thread swirls down the tubes?
That’s not the way it works.
     
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Well, I could resort to a personal attack, but I refrain, because I give you the benefit of the doubt.

Well, I think kept it civil

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Indeed you did, and I jumped down your throat quickly and I apologize for that. Your "hundreds of millions" statement had me jumping to a couple conclusions that weren’t fair to you.

At any rate, we can agree what is happening at the border currently is a travesty.
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Gentlemen, I applaud you. Civilized discourse! Here here!
     
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I just don’t know you people anymore.
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Can we get CTP back here to bring some irrationality back?
     
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How about SimeytheLimey? His coherence belied his deeply irrational political opinions..
     
 
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