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Warung
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Jun 16, 2005, 01:24 PM
 
This has been the upteenth time I have been banned from the politics lounge, while others who spout dehumanizing and fascist slurs get to stay in.

This is a very disconcerting trend, and a rather shameful message being sent to the Mac and Apple community. Is this really what you want?

I'm sure the folks who own this board don't want the rest of the "world" to think that MacNN "prefers" fascist members.

Thank you.

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Chuckit
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Jun 16, 2005, 01:40 PM
 
I have no idea why they would do that.
Originally Posted by Warung
you're a fascist POS!
Originally Posted by Warung
fascist little pieces of sh1t just like you.
Originally Posted by Warung
get the fu<k outta here.
And those are just from the first two posts by you I saw in a thread.

Who's got the graphic? You know you want to post it.
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Jun 16, 2005, 01:44 PM
 
Originally Posted by Warung
This has been the upteenth time I have been banned from the politics lounge.
Maybe it's the content and context of some of your more vitriolic posts and not the political lounge or the mods/admins.

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ThinkInsane
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Jun 16, 2005, 01:57 PM
 
Like it or not, the political forum is going to become a much more civil place. The trolling, flaming, and general overall nastiness is coming to an end, and to achieve that end some of the participants have been removed from that forum until they can prove they can debate a subject like adults, without spitting vitriol in the faces of all those with an opposing view point. That includes you. No matter what you'd like to believe, your being banned from the pol forum has nothing to do with your views, and everything to do with the manner in which you posted them.

We've given ample opportunity for people to behave and debate in an intelligent and adult manner, and some people have have chosen not to seize that opportunity, instead choosing to stifle all debate with their trolling and name calling.

And just so you know, your so called 'fascists' are banned from there as well. You aren't a victim here, so stop acting like one.
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Warung  (op)
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Jun 16, 2005, 01:57 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit
And those are just from the first two posts by you I saw in a thread.
Hey, I never said that I didn't deserve to get banned, - this isn't what this thread is about.

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Warung  (op)
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Jun 16, 2005, 02:01 PM
 
Originally Posted by ThinkInsane
That includes you.
No problem. Just remember, it shouldn't just be about the "form", but about the content as well.

Originally Posted by ThinkInsane
And just so you know, your so called 'fascists' are banned from there as well.
Then why is it they still are able to post there (or MacNN in general)? And there is nothing "so called" about it. I just call 'em as I see 'em.

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Chuckit
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Jun 16, 2005, 02:23 PM
 
Originally Posted by Warung
Then why is it they still are able to post there (or MacNN in general)? And there is nothing "so called" about it. I just call 'em as I see 'em.
There is no "anti-fascist" policy at MacNN. They have a right to this viewpoint that you call fascism just as much as you have a right to yours, which I'm sure they have names for as well. What's getting you banned (in my estimation — I ain't a mod or admin) is the fact that your posts are just constant ad hominem and vitriol.
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turtle777
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Jun 16, 2005, 02:23 PM
 
Originally Posted by Warung
Hey, I never said that I didn't deserve to get banned, - this isn't what this thread is about.
So what is this thread about ? I don't get it.

Du Heulsuse !

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PacHead
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Jun 16, 2005, 02:44 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit
There is no "anti-fascist" policy at MacNN. They have a right to this viewpoint that you call fascism just as much as you have a right to yours, which I'm sure they have names for as well. What's getting you banned (in my estimation — I ain't a mod or admin) is the fact that your posts are just constant ad hominem and vitriol.
Actually you're wrong. I apparently have no right to my viewpoint. I guess supporting the US is bad around here.

Why in the hell have I been banned ?

Because the ad-hominem attacking Warung constantly calls other people for Nazi, Fascists, F*ck you all etc ?

So the solution is to ban him and the people he's attacking ?

Great going there !

Congratulations !

Sorry, I didn't do ANYTHING wrong, and I should not be banned because of the behavior of Warung.

That is just WRONG !!!!!!! And I am mad as hell.

Punish the guilty party and the innocent party ! Nice going there !

Some people may not like my viewpoints in the PL, but I do not constantly engage in 100% Ad Hominem bullcrap, such as many others do.

     
PacHead
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Jun 16, 2005, 02:48 PM
 
Originally Posted by ThinkInsane
And just so you know, your so called 'fascists' are banned from there as well. You aren't a victim here, so stop acting like one.
I am a victim in this case.

PacHead - - - terrorists suck etc., etc. (not against the rules)
Warung - - - F*ck you ! you fascist POS Nazi ! ! ! ! (against the rules)


Thinkinsane - - - Lemme ban both of 'em, that'll teach 'em

     
bubblewrap
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Jun 16, 2005, 02:55 PM
 


Damn, I didn't think I was that bad.
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Chuckit
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Jun 16, 2005, 03:27 PM
 
Originally Posted by PacHead
PacHead - - - terrorists suck etc., etc. (not against the rules)
As well as "People have problems with Gitmo because they want terrorists to kill people" and other such flamebaiting...
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PacHead
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Jun 16, 2005, 03:36 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit
As well as "People have problems with Gitmo because they want terrorists to kill people" and other such flamebaiting...
Also not against the rules. That is a valid viewpoint, and certain people do indeed wish that.

Now if I wrote " Warung, you dirty little nazi terrorist POS, STFU", and similiar stuff, that would obviously be an ad hominem attack.
     
Ω
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Jun 16, 2005, 03:38 PM
 
Does no one use PMs these days?
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bubblewrap
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Jun 16, 2005, 03:39 PM
 
You know what, I think I just want this account deleted.
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PacHead
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Jun 16, 2005, 03:44 PM
 
Originally Posted by bubblewrap
You know what, I think I just want this account deleted.
Please delete mine at the same time.

Somebody calls people Nazi, Fascist, F*cks, etc., and the admins decide to ban a bunch of people.

Why just ban me from the PL ?

A despicable, fascist nazi (USA supporting, anti-terrorist) person such as myself should be banned from the entire forums and not just the PL.

Please ban me now forever. IP Ban, Nick ban, whatever Ban.

Thank you.
     
Chuckit
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Jun 16, 2005, 03:53 PM
 
Both sides think that they were banned because of their viewpoints and not because they were completely belligerent in presenting them? That's just funny.
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PacHead
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Jun 16, 2005, 04:00 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit
Both sides think that they were banned because of their viewpoints and not because they were completely belligerent in presenting them? That's just funny.
Don't compare me with that little terrorist scumbag Warung. (Yeah, I'm violating a rule now finally, perhaps I'll get banned).

I never write anything such as:

Originally Posted by Warung
you're a fascist POS!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Warung
fascist little pieces of sh1t just like you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Warung
get the fu<k outta here.
     
Randman
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Jun 16, 2005, 04:18 PM
 
While I have to agree with the generally low opinion of warung, all of you are making a case that the admins did the right thing in calling a time out and letting y'all chill some before heading back into the game.

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ThinkInsane
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Jun 16, 2005, 05:26 PM
 
Originally Posted by Randman
While I have to agree with the generally low opinion of warung, all of you are making a case that the admins did the right thing in calling a time out and letting y'all chill some before heading back into the game.
The man is wise beyond his years...
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Zimphire
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Jun 16, 2005, 06:36 PM
 
When they ban one person from one side, they always ban another person from the other. Fault or not. Just to look fair.

Suck it up for a week or so.
     
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Jun 16, 2005, 06:55 PM
 
     
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Jun 16, 2005, 07:00 PM
 
Arguing about politics is pretty dumb in general.

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PacHead
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Jun 16, 2005, 07:10 PM
 
Originally Posted by Zimphire
When they ban one person from one side, they always ban another person from the other. Fault or not. Just to look fair.

Suck it up for a week or so.
I object to being made a scapegoat of, for the sake of fairness™.

Fairness would mean the one who stepped out of line would get banned, and not anybody else.

It is fairly obvious why warung got banned with his "fcuk you all" and "you are a fascist pig" statements. It was after that specific post that warung made, that got the thread locked. So basically, if warung had never called anybody names, I would not be banned now.

I'm curious as to why I got banned. Do they just pick some random name from a hat when it's banning time ? Why me ? Let the admins ban somebody else for the sake of fairness.

Admins - "Well, we just banned this one dude who had a foulmouth and engaged in nonstop ad hominem attacks, now we need to pick somebody from the other side, just to be fair™.



And if the admins on this forum were really fair, they would ban the people who have engaged in personal attacks against me. I can produce a whole bunch of posts as proof, if they're interested in fairness™ that is. Those people have not been banned. I wish to see all of them banned, as they have violated the rules. Or do the rules only apply to certain people ?

     
Chuckit
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Jun 16, 2005, 07:21 PM
 
Did you hit the "report abuse" button, PacHead?
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Ω
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Jun 16, 2005, 07:28 PM
 
PacHead, I am reporting you for blatent misuse of the ™ icon.

And on your bannination from the Pol Lounge

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PacHead
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Jun 16, 2005, 07:34 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit
Did you hit the "report abuse" button, PacHead?
No, because it happens so often, that I would be seen as an annoying little whiner, if I constantly flooded their PM boxes with my complaints. The admins read some of those threads, they know the real deal.

I am pretty sure that the admins get plenty of messages from certain whiners complaining about me, so perhaps that's why I was banned. 15 terrorist supporters complaining about me can't all be wrong can they ?

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PacHead
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Jun 16, 2005, 07:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by Ω
PacHead, I am reporting you for blatent misuse of the ™ icon.

And on your bannination from the Pol Lounge

Report this:

     
bradoesch
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Jun 16, 2005, 07:47 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit

Who's got the graphic? You know you want to post it.

Absolutely do.

     
Ω
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Jun 16, 2005, 07:48 PM
 
Originally Posted by PacHead
Report this:

Oh, the humanity!
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mojo2
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Jun 16, 2005, 10:11 PM
 
Why not create a MOSH PIT with no rules? Everybody would be happy and the tiddlywinks milquetoast crowd will be safe to exchange their academic dissertations and those who enjoy football, wrestling, NASCAR and boxing (ULTIMATE FIGHTING CHAMPIONSHIPS???) can indulge in our preferred style of debate.

This isn't Cukoo's Nest and you admins aren't (or shouldnt act like) Nurse Ratched. You afraid that by starting a mosh pit that you wont have anyone to protect from harm? Oh, I'm sure once in a while tempers will rise in the lounge and someone will say damn and you can step in and restore order.

But the Pit would be the most entertaining lounge and once the hooligans are gone from the civilized areas more new tea drinkers will find the lounge to be a most delightful place to hang out and everyone will be better off.
     
Zimphire
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Jun 16, 2005, 10:22 PM
 
Originally Posted by mojo2
Why not create a MOSH PIT with no rules?
People would just bring grudges from that forum into other parts of the forum.
     
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Jun 16, 2005, 11:07 PM
 
Originally Posted by Zimphire
People would just bring grudges from that forum into other parts of the forum.
All depends what kinda mosh pit.

Good Charolette: Not even one. All they do is pretend like they're listening to heavy music by making a half assed horn gesture. I hear the new one involved a motion that looks like cutting your wrists.

Slayer: Bring a gun.

Yes: Bring your catalog of Brahm and throw it down, biatch!

[Generic Hardcore band]: Do that windmill thing.

Punk band: "Anarchy, man. BTW, how much is this cool manufactured t-shirt?"

Blues: …Get into arguments like "Who had the biggest hellhound on their trail"

Beatles [pre-mosh era]: Bitch slap that ho! She's blocking your view of McCartney and his Ricky bass.


Which pit do y'all like best? I think the Slayer one sounds more reminiscent of the Argument Clinic.
     
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Jun 17, 2005, 04:24 AM
 
Originally Posted by PacHead
15 terrorist supporters complaining about me can't all be wrong can they ?

I don't think you get it.
Take a break, come back, have fun.
     
PacHead
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Jun 17, 2005, 01:22 PM
 
Originally Posted by AKcrab
I don't think you get it.
Take a break, come back, have fun.
Yeah, actually I do not get it.

So far I understand this: Warung acts like a child, he loses his temper and lashes out at others in a post with personal attacks.

Please explain why I was banned, since I do not get it, and you claim to get it.

     
mojo2
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Jun 17, 2005, 01:53 PM
 
Originally Posted by Zimphire
People would just bring grudges from that forum into other parts of the forum.
Maybe we can look at those who have a greater potential for undisciplined behavior overlapping into the other parts of society.

What keeps NFL players from bringing their fights into the streets?
     
Warung  (op)
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Jun 17, 2005, 02:01 PM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777

Du Heulsuse !

-t
Halts Maul!

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Warung  (op)
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Jun 17, 2005, 02:06 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit
There is no "anti-fascist" policy at MacNN. They have a right to this viewpoint that you call fascism just as much as you have a right to yours, which I'm sure they have names for as well.
That's a very good point, and actually what this thread is about. I disagree with you on this one. MacNN is a privately owned board, and they don't allow quite a few things here...why do they allow people to spread their xenophobic and hateful messages (disguised as religious views and patriotism), if you can't even type out the word f*ck...That doesn't make sense to me.

Originally Posted by Chuckit
What's getting you banned (in my estimation — I ain't a mod or admin) is the fact that your posts are just constant ad hominem and vitriol.
My posts? That was one thread! Yes, I've had a few...but "my posts"?

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Warung  (op)
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Jun 17, 2005, 02:09 PM
 
Originally Posted by PacHead
Don't compare me with that little terrorist scumbag...

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Warung  (op)
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Jun 17, 2005, 02:13 PM
 
Originally Posted by PacHead
Now if I wrote " Warung, you dirty little nazi terrorist POS, STFU", and similiar stuff, that would obviously be an ad hominem attack.
See, this is exactly what I'm saying. Truth out.

Now, please tell me, what makes me a "nazi" or a "terrorist"?

See, - there's your problem. I'm neither.

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Randman
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Jun 17, 2005, 02:13 PM
 
Originally Posted by Warung
It's crap like that that got you banned from the political lounge. Just provoking a response is irresponsible. I hope the mods lock this thread soon.

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Warung  (op)
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Jun 17, 2005, 02:22 PM
 
Originally Posted by Randman
It's crap like that that got you banned from the political lounge. Just provoking a response is irresponsible. I hope the mods lock this thread soon.
Why don't you apply for the position of a mod? You're already acting like one.

a) I'm not complaining that I got banned.

b) I didn't "provoke" anything. He called me a terrorist, - why? That's the reason I posted.

c) Why get this thread locked, it raises a valid point, imho.

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people don't like getting banned?
i'll call Ripley's.
     
   
 
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