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Alex Duffield · Mar 17, 2001, 03:39 AM

Wincent, Here is a way to prove yourself!!

Post the review now, but post it encrypted with PGP. Then release the Key on the 24th!

You get to keep your mouth shut, and your credibility...

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Scott_H · Mar 17, 2001, 03:45 AM

Didn't you post this in the "Wincent claims to have retail version now... " thread?

Alex Duffield · Mar 17, 2001, 03:54 AM

Ya, but I figured he "might" actualy see it here...

(Im sure he has better things to do than read all the "I hate Wincent" posts in the other thread...)

I have liked his reviews so far, and would realy like to see him manage to get out of this one...

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Scrod · Mar 17, 2001, 03:57 AM

Alex, that's an EXCELLENT idea! And maybe it could generate a frenzied PGP cracking effort in the next seven days as well!

Chaaaosss · Mar 17, 2001, 04:35 AM

I'll gladly keep the key.

JB72 · Mar 17, 2001, 05:11 AM

Somehow, I don't think he'll take up the challenge. Call it intuition

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PurpleGiant · Mar 17, 2001, 07:24 AM

yeah, that is a great idea!! assuming that he really does have it, he would gain his credibilty back 150% of what it was before he did this, and then all the naysayers would be eating their words...

Mar 17, 2001, 07:56 AM

This is the fault of all those people hoping for a suprise when they get theyr boxes, and partly wincents for telling us that they were going to be posting a review.

What about all the people who needed to know if it was crap or not before buying?

Mar 17, 2001, 11:46 AM

Another way to prove he is legit (I think he probably is) is to just post a pic of the box and the contents of the box (from a distance that you can see what they are, but can't see details). Show the box, the CD itself, the paperwok that comes with it... etc. If the look and feel and inventory of those items all matches the boxes that we all see a few days later, you know he had the real thing.

PowerBookDude · Mar 17, 2001, 11:48 AM

Alex why don't you e-mail him with your idea?

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Gametes · Mar 17, 2001, 12:59 PM

These are both really excellent ideas.
I don't know that he has it, but I think if he wants to prove that he wasn't lying these would surely do it. (Gametes: roots for the good guy if he's honest; Gametes: doesn't care about the bad guy if he's lying)
C'mon wincent! Show us you did it for a reason other than sadism.

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Alex Duffield · Mar 18, 2001, 01:46 PM

He Takes the offer!!!

"We intend to follow the advice that's been given on the various forums out there and publish our review in encrypted form but publicly available on this site, with the passphrase required to decrypt the write-up only being released on 24 March (or 21 March, depending on what gets revealed to the public on that day)."

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Mk · Mar 18, 2001, 02:05 PM

so , uhm, what now?

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Mar 18, 2001, 03:31 PM

http://wincent.org/transitional/final.pgp.txt

Looks really short. Something like "bummer, 4k78 is GM after all"

Mar 18, 2001, 03:47 PM

What you read in that pgp file is not going to blow your mind. It's just a simple summary of the facts. A week from now no-one will give a damn about all this silly debate.

Quoted from wincent himself on his forums.

Gametes · Mar 18, 2001, 03:48 PM

For real; I can't beleive it's that short.
Actually...

The encoded final review - 2000 chars
k78 review - 2000 words
Follow-up - 3000
c4k46 part 1 - 1200
part 2 - 2100
part 3 - 1900

It could just be that he has only posted the first page of his review!

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Mk · Mar 18, 2001, 03:54 PM

all it will say is
quote:

"HAHA! GET A LIFE!"

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Satan · Mar 18, 2001, 03:56 PM

That's exactly what Wincent has done. Cool!

-Satan

Torquemada.m@c · Mar 18, 2001, 04:05 PM

This Wincent/Leonard-story is crazy! I don't care what they're saying - we have only 6 days (close to 5 here

) left.

Wait and see and don't get pissed before!

Mk · Mar 18, 2001, 04:10 PM

Wait til 20th March, it gets all the better inside here...

ZnU · Mar 18, 2001, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by Gametes:
For real; I can't beleive it's that short.

It's not that short. PGP compresses files before encrypting them (zip, I think). Human-readable text compresses very well, because there's lots of redundancy (repeated words, very limited character set, etc.).

akebono · Mar 18, 2001, 04:21 PM

Gametes:
For real; I can't beleive it's that short.

the first phase of encryption is compression. So the text is probably at least 4000 characters. And not using any big words, that could be one hell of an essay!

Gametes · Mar 18, 2001, 04:25 PM

Wait to go in not reading my whole post there.
My point was that it was compressed or divided.

akebono · Mar 18, 2001, 04:25 PM

jinx, buy me a coke.

Group51 · Mar 18, 2001, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by akebono:

the first phase of encryption is compression. So the text is probably at least 4000 characters. And not using any big words, that could be one hell of an essay!

I'm sorry, but how does PGP work? I imagine the idea behind using PGP was to get people using it...so...what do I do, what do I download. What is a key - do we all have personal keys? does this have something to do with the Keychain (just joking there!)

Thanks

Mar 18, 2001, 05:22 PM

Go to the link below and download free pgp. All you need to know is included in the documentation.
http://download.pgp.com:8001/freewar...are703.sit.bin

Group51 · Mar 18, 2001, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by pgp:
Go to the link below and download free pgp. All you need to know is included in the documentation.
http://download.pgp.com:8001/freewar...are703.sit.bin

It wouldn't let me have it becuase I am not a US citizen. eek!
(UK BTW)

[This message has been edited by Group51 (edited 03-18-2001).]

Mar 18, 2001, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by Group51:
It wouldn't let me have it becuase I am not a US citizen. eek!
(UK BTW)

[This message has been edited by Group51 (edited 03-18-2001).]

Int'l user go here instead.
http://www.pgpI.org/

Oneota · Mar 18, 2001, 05:52 PM

Hmm..it downloaded a 13K file for me; that can't be right! Especially considering that StuffIt won't touch it with a 10-foot-pole.

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Group51 · Mar 18, 2001, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by Group51:
It wouldn't let me have it becuase I am not a US citizen. eek!
(UK BTW)

[This message has been edited by Group51 (edited 03-18-2001).]

http://www.pgp.com/products/freeware/agreement-mac.asp

Ah...that's better.

Alex Duffield · Mar 18, 2001, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by pgp:
Int'l user go here instead.
http://www.pgpI.org/

or you could lie...