[Mac User #001]

Hi,

I recently updated my brothers iBook with the latest updates. It's similar to mine but has a 1.33 processor, Radeon 9550, and a 40 GB HD. Well, these updates included iTunes 8.1, a new version of Safari, Java update 8 and the most recent security updates. When restarting, it froze at the place with the grey apple and the spinning circle. It won't go any furher. Any ideas on what's going on here?

[Laminar]

Is it stuck at the spinning circle with the circle still moving, or did the circle itself freeze?

You'll probably want to access the bad iBook's hard drive through either Firewire Target Disk Mode or by booting from an OS X install CD and run Disk Utility on it - repair the volume and the permissions. See if that helps.

I've seen a few Macs freeze at startup with the circle still spinning, turns out they had bad hard drives. Hopefully that's not your problem.

[Mac User #001]

Circle still spins. I've tried resetting the PRAM, PMU, and NVRAM all with no luck.

I'll try the disks when we get home, but I really do hope it's not a bad harddrive.

I just read my post above which was written on my touch and I see I made a spelling error or two in there. Whoops.

[amazing]

what version MacOS were you upgrading from?

the other thing you can try is running safe boot (holding down the shift key during bootup, for quite a long time, until the login dialogue come up) and/or fsck (holding down the apple/command & letter "s" key during bootup, until the black screen with scrolling white text comes up. When the white text presents you with the option to run fsck, just type

fsck -fy

and hit return. Keep running it until it says OK, then type

reboot

and hit return. Hopefully that'll work.

[AKcrab]

We've seen a rash of 'no boot after updates' with the last security update. Unfortunately, the only cure has been an archive/install.

[Mac User #001]

Originally Posted by amazing 

what version MacOS were you upgrading from?

the other thing you can try is running safe boot (holding down the shift key during bootup, for quite a long time, until the login dialogue come up) and/or fsck (holding down the apple/command & letter "s" key during bootup, until the black screen with scrolling white text comes up. When the white text presents you with the option to run fsck, just type

fsck -fy

and hit return. Keep running it until it says OK, then type

reboot

and hit return. Hopefully that'll work.

Tried safe boot, tried single user mode. It reports that the Macintosh HD is okay, but still won't boot.

Originally Posted by AKcrab 

We've seen a rash of 'no boot after updates' with the last security update. Unfortunately, the only cure has been an archive/install.

And how would that be achieved without the install discs? Yeah, I know. Apparently he has install discs, but they're to someones iBook he no longer knows, and that person must have his install discs.

So, needless to say, I haven't been able to use Disk Utility or the Apple Hardware Test yet.

I've talked to him and he'd be willing to do a reboot as long as we did Target Disk Mode first and got a few things off.

I remember reading somewhere that Apple will replace your install discs if you call them up and provide your serial number, but that it's either $20 or $60 (the guys were conflicting over how much it was). True?

[Mac User #001]

All is well. I used his Tiger retail install disc to do the Archive & Install.

I'm sure not having those discs will bite him some day down the line, but today he got lucky.

EDIT: Thanks for the help, guys!

[Northeastern292]

Originally Posted by Mac User #001 

All is well. I used his Tiger retail install disc to do the Archive & Install.

I'm sure not having those discs will bite him some day down the line, but today he got lucky.

EDIT: Thanks for the help, guys!

I had that same problem recently on my PowerBook G4. However, on that machine, the hard drive definitely needed to be replaced.

[Mac User #001]

Aww that sucks.

Interesting thing just happened. My brother just told me that Apple just called him and apologized to him for the Security Update killing his machine. I guess they knew from the setup utility that launched when he first logged in. Odd, but nice of them.

[Laminar]

Originally Posted by Mac User #001 

Aww that sucks.

Interesting thing just happened. My brother just told me that Apple just called him and apologized to him for the Security Update killing his machine. I guess they knew from the setup utility that launched when he first logged in. Odd, but nice of them.

Wow, that's really weird.