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bbxstudio · Sep 23, 2003, 05:36 PM

Just a 'movie-style' teaser poster for now... sorry, but absolutely no screenies 'till launch day

Bwahahaha...

BBX OMEGA� features:

o Slick futuristic styling with serious attention to detail (and heavy Japanese techno influence to boot)

o Photorealistic polycarbon surfacing with event-driven LEDs (heavy on both eye-candy and long-term usability)

o Theme(s), Dock skin(s), iTunes and Safari skin(s), system wide icons, desktop graphics, high-quality futuristic stereo alert sounds, (possible) Konfabulator widget(s) and more!

o 'Construction kits' featuring layered icon templates and desktop elements for a 'build your own' experience

To answer the inevitable questions - first, BBX MIRAI is on hold temporarily while I get this out of my system (but for reasons that will become apparent down the road, this one will actually speed Mirai along). Second, yes it's true - this one will actually see the light of day

A simultaneous 'official' XP release is also in the works. Website and new teaser materials will be coming shortly as well.

kmkkid · Sep 23, 2003, 05:42 PM

Sooooo whens it being released again?

can't comment until I see a screenshot....

Chris

Dace · Sep 23, 2003, 05:53 PM

Sounds great. Colours remind me of Albie's great K-Scheme ByCrom!

Spaztik · Sep 23, 2003, 05:55 PM

Sounds like it's gonna rock!

york28 · Sep 23, 2003, 06:18 PM

Sounds good to me too. But please, watch the hype. Props to Max for kicking out an awesome theme recently with absolutely no hype at all. Not even a mention. That's the way to go I think.

NetworkShadow · Sep 23, 2003, 06:51 PM

OMG! Freak me out why don't you! I almost had a heart attack! Just get one out already!!! We've waited for 2 years just for Mirai and now you get side tracked by Omega (witch looks just as good or better. I love dark themes!), all I care is that we get to use one of them before we die of old age.

And I think you deserve being pressured into releasing something soon just for your hyping them. If you're going to take 2 years to get a theme done just keep it under wraps until it's out....

I hope one of your new themes will be out before Panther, at the very soonest, and before the end of the year at the latest.

Originally posted by york28:
Sounds good to me too. But please, watch the hype. Props to Max for kicking out an awesome theme recently with absolutely no hype at all. Not even a mention. That's the way to go I think.

I did know about it about a month before it was out. All he said was it would be metal with green in it.

Zimphire · Sep 23, 2003, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by york28:
Sounds good to me too. But please, watch the hype. Props to Max for kicking out an awesome theme recently with absolutely no hype at all. Not even a mention. That's the way to go I think.

No hype at all? I've heard hype about Max's theme months before it was out.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

bbxstudio · Sep 23, 2003, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by kmkkid:
Sooooo whens it being released again?
can't comment until I see a screenshot....
Chris

Fall (within 30-40 days at most). No screenies until the OSX and XP versions are finished (for a million reasons).

bbxstudio · Sep 23, 2003, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
No hype at all?

Announcing it now will keep me honest and make me get it out. Consider it a promise

bbxstudio · 07:24 PM

Originally posted by york28:
Sounds good to me too. But please, watch the hype. Props to Max for kicking out an awesome theme recently with absolutely no hype at all.

Why should I watch the hype? I always hype my kits - that's part of the fun

NetworkShadow · Sep 23, 2003, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by bbxstudio:
Announcing it now will keep me honest and make me get it out. Consider it a promise

Hmm didn't happen with Mirai though hu? lol
Sweet, I have something to look forward to in a month's time.

bbxstudio · Sep 23, 2003, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by NetworkShadow:
Hmm didn't happen with Mirai though hu? lol

Mirai is super complex with a lot of firsts in it - don't want to mess it up (you'll see). It's not even the same design it was when I started (biggest mistake was leaving the teaser up - should have taken it down sooner, er, right away)... Besides, a guy's allowed to make a fumble now and then - doesn't change the fact that this one will be uber-cool

bbxstudio · Sep 23, 2003, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Dace:
Sounds great. Colours remind me of Albie's great K-Scheme ByCrom!

Hey - I forgot about ByCrom! I loved that one too

Ah, Albie - where are you now? Yeah, looks like the greeny-blue is very similar - goes so well with black, no?

Dace · Sep 23, 2003, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by bbxstudio:
Mirai is super complex with a lot of firsts in it - don't want to mess it up (you'll see). It's not even the same design it was when I started (biggest mistake was leaving the teaser up - should have taken it down sooner, er, right away)... Besides, a guy's allowed to make a fumble now and then - doesn't change the fact that this one will be uber-cool

I did have to squeeze BBX Mercury X out of you

gdiddy · Sep 23, 2003, 08:00 PM

Y'all can thank me now for firmly putting my boot in BBX's behind!

BBX - Looks awesome! You are truly a GUI god.

NetworkShadow · 08:53 PM

Originally posted by bbxstudio:
Mirai is super complex with a lot of firsts in it - don't want to mess it up (you'll see). It's not even the same design it was when I started (biggest mistake was leaving the teaser up - should have taken it down sooner, er, right away)... Besides, a guy's allowed to make a fumble now and then - doesn't change the fact that this one will be uber-cool

I must say you are the man when it comes to interface design, so yes you are allowed some fumbles. Anyway, I so can't wait.

Originally posted by gdiddy:
BBX - Looks awesome! You are truly a GUI god.

I'll drink to that!

Have you looked into skinning iTunes? I think iTunes and QuickTime are the only things that through off the overall interface themeing.

I also can't wait for the "Construction kits" cuz I know I'll be making some matching desktops and stuff as I always do. It would be helpful to have some cool textures and stuff to work with.

I'm running BBX Mercury X now, it matches my new G4 and now it's also in anticipation of your new theme.

phillryu · Sep 23, 2003, 09:18 PM

How are you going to handle this dark theme? Will it involve white text in titebars? Or are you wokring around that.

Zimphire · Sep 23, 2003, 09:34 PM

BTW I just read "Black is beautiful" you will get called a racist in here for that.

But then again, you should be ok as long as you don't post it in the politics forum.

I am curious to see this theme.

Mike S. · Sep 23, 2003, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by phillryu:
How are you going to handle this dark theme? Will it involve white text in titebars? Or are you wokring around that.

I was wondering the same thing.

I don't suppose you've come up with a way around the whole nasty contrast in columns mode issue have you? Or the fact that black buttons tend to look bad on web pages?

These were the two things that really kept me from using Izawa's Shinobi theme for more than a day or so.

You mention it being high on usability so maybe you've worked some kind of OS X GUI miracle?

Adam Betts · Sep 24, 2003, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
BTW I just read "Black is beautiful" you will get called a racist in here for that.

Yeah it happened to me.. One of the member here, quandarry accused me as a gay basher simply because I said Pez theme isn't designed for gay people only. Some people like to jump over the conclusion

Back on the topic, BBX OMEGA Teaser is loooking good. I like the color and I can't wait to see how you'll make them look good given the limitation in OS X

quandarry · Sep 24, 2003, 01:01 AM

looks way cool bb...hope you have found a way around the curse of the dark/black theme...i luv darker themes...

just wondering...will there be an installer for all this or will it require some techno skill to slip on all the seat covers?

ps: how bout just a peek at a teeny morsel...

Zimphire · Sep 24, 2003, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by Adam Betts:
Yeah it happened to me.. One of the member here, quandarry accused me as a gay basher simply because I said Pez theme isn't designed for gay people only. Some people like to jump over the conclusion

Sheesh, everyone knows you are gay..

bbxstudio · Sep 24, 2003, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by Mike S.:
I was wondering the same thing. You mention it being high on usability so maybe you've worked some kind of OS X GUI miracle?

Well, you'll have to wait to see just how it's been handled - but some problems are going to be impossible to overcome with any dark design (namely contrast issues). If you like dark interfaces (like me), you'll probably love this one - if you don't, then no dark interface will ever be good enough. For those who do like dark ones, however - this one's very tight and fun to use.

bbxstudio · Sep 24, 2003, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by gdiddy:
BBX - Looks awesome! You are truly a GUI god.

That's a bit much, don't you think?

scaught · Sep 24, 2003, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by york28:
Sounds good to me too. But please, watch the hype. Props to Max for kicking out an awesome theme recently with absolutely no hype at all. Not even a mention. That's the way to go I think.

oh please. hes got the work and the skillz to back up the hype. plus, if the teaser poster is anywhere near as cool as the actual theme, it should be kick ass.

mrbiiggy2 · Sep 24, 2003, 01:53 AM

OMG I'm actually excited about a new original theme.... Amazing!

Lets just hope it doesnt suck like BBX Mercury.

ambush · Sep 24, 2003, 06:59 AM

What's the ETA?

as2 · Sep 24, 2003, 07:31 AM

Read the post....

Say's 30-40 days above

catsank · 02:08 PM

Originally posted by bbxstudio:
Announcing it now will keep me honest
and make me get it out. Consider it a promise ;)

TEASE !

Cerbero · Sep 24, 2003, 11:12 AM

The preview looks real nice, can't wait to see what you've got up your sleeve for handling the limitations of the GUI

Tulkas · Sep 24, 2003, 12:04 PM

OMG, that looks awesome!

Okay, now for a 1 month drug-induced coma. Wake me when its out

gdiddy · Sep 24, 2003, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by bbxstudio:
That's a bit much, don't you think?

No. I think it's right on point. You seriously rock. All the win amp skins, themes etc.

If I were gay and black...

swiz · Sep 24, 2003, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by Cerbero:
The preview looks real nice, can't wait to see what you've got up your sleeve for handling the limitations of the GUI

Think along the lines of an OSX without limitations grasshoppa

Thats what Billyb is doing.

Cerbero · Sep 25, 2003, 03:11 AM

Originally posted by swiz:
Think along the lines of an OSX without limitations grasshoppa

Thats what Billyb is doing.

Hehe, yeah I guess

bbxstudio · Sep 25, 2003, 04:59 AM

Hehe - like the logo Swiz?

FB Eye · Sep 25, 2003, 11:47 AM

Just what we needed: inside jokes between themers to make us even more miserable

Cool that you didn't give up on theming BillyB

Mike S. · Sep 25, 2003, 01:39 PM

I found a preview image of Omega!

Omega Preview

swiz · Sep 25, 2003, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by bbxstudio:
Hehe - like the logo Swiz?

The logo is sooper slick. Mike S, ouch that is below the belt

.

andretan · Sep 25, 2003, 04:01 PM

Looks like it's gonna be a really cool theme! Can't wait to see a preview

Mike S. · Sep 25, 2003, 10:30 PM

Just to be clear, I wasn't trying to insult BBX, I think BBX Mercury is great.

I just remembered a theme called Omega made during the OS 9 days that was black so I dug up a picture for a laugh

bbxstudio · Sep 26, 2003, 06:45 AM

Originally posted by Mike S.:
Just to be clear, I wasn't trying to insult BBX, I think BBX Mercury is great.

I just remembered a theme called Omega made during the OS 9 days that was black so I dug up a picture for a laugh

Not offended - I thought it was funny

swiz · Sep 26, 2003, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by bbxstudio:
Not offended - I thought it was funny

Yeah, we all know you Mike S and your sick sick humor heh

NetworkShadow · Sep 27, 2003, 02:04 AM

BBX: Just wondering, how long has Omega been in the works so far?

lol ya I remember that old Omega theme lol never used it! lol

bbxstudio · Sep 27, 2003, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by NetworkShadow:
BBX: Just wondering, how long has Omega been in the works so far?

lol ya I remember that old Omega theme lol never used it! lol

For a while in one form or another

pixeljunky · Sep 28, 2003, 12:50 PM

is this theme for x.2xx or for panther?

bbxstudio · Sep 28, 2003, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by pixeljunky:
is this theme for x.2xx or for panther?

Hmmm... not saying 100%, but I think it will work with both (although it may look a wee bit different from Jaguar to Panther). I happen to think that the Omega Finder windows look 1000X better in Jaguar than they do in Panther, but I think you'll have that problem with any theme (given that Panther's Finder GUI implementation sucks). I'm still working at solving this.

NetworkShadow · Sep 28, 2003, 01:50 PM

I'll be helping port themes since I've been testing Jag themes on Panther since the first WWDC preview. The biggest problem was the finder.... Do you know if Finder is just a normal brushed metal interface that might be disabled by Unsanity's haxie?

Unless you port Omega as soon as Panther is out, I'll be working on my own port for personal use.

Sage · Sep 28, 2003, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by NetworkShadow:
Do you know if Finder is just a normal brushed metal interface that might be disabled by Unsanity's haxie?

Seems to me that it wouldn't work, since Metallifizer only changes Cocoa apps.

Mike S. · Sep 28, 2003, 09:58 PM

Your mention of Metallifizer and Cocoa just jostled some cobwebs in my brain.

Carbon apps can't natively use the textured appearance can they? It's a Cocoa only thing, right?

Carbon apps that have them are things like QT Player and iTunes which are hideous hacks. Does this mean that when you change themes under Panther the Finder is going to retain it's artificial metal look and window widgets?

Maybe I'm just wrong about Carbon and textured apps but then why wouldn't Apple update QT Player and iTunes to use standard textured appearance?

It's not like they care about OS 9 anymore.

bbxstudio · Sep 28, 2003, 10:22 PM

Originally posted by Mike S.:
Your mention of Metallifizer and Cocoa just jostled some cobwebs in my brain.
Carbon apps that have them are things like QT Player and iTunes which are hideous hacks.

Hey, guess what - so is Panther's Finder. It doesn't read or display the system's MetalWindow resources like any other app - and to top it off it only displays in grayscale. I myself hate grayscale, so all of my metals (and blacks like Omega) are full-color - which means unless things have changed between WWDC and the final version (very very possible if not probable), just about any theme is going to look like a dog's breakfast applied to the new Finder (Aqua hacks notwithstanding - they use true grayscale backgrounds).