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Russia recognises the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia
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Great! These are the Kosovo recognition chickens coming home to roost!
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Who else has recognized them?
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Venezuela, Abkhazia / South Ossetia, Nagorno-Karabakh, and Transnistria - do you think that matters? I mean, the point is that they will become part of Russia, no?
BTW - I know that the recognition status of some of those is dubious.
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Do you recognize them zombie punk?
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Recognition is designed to further the point that the West is impotent and how defying Russia can result in one's country being carved up and possibly subsumed by Russia. That lesson isn't so much for the West as it is for the Baltics (with large Russian minorities), Georgia, and Ukraine.
The Russians will probably incorporate these two areas into Russia proper in order to really take negotiations off the table -- once a part of Russia, they will stay that way, whereas the West and Georgia have a glimmer of hope if they are independent. Russia also will not trust its strategic positions to the whims of these provincial leaders. Incorporation into Russia proper gives the Russians legitimacy to station all the troops, air, and naval forces they want to in order to control the western exit of energy across Georgia. This is important because a vice grip on energy ensures EU and European NATO acquiescence to Russian grand strategy of reestablishing dominance in the FSU.
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I agree - that looks exactly what Russia is planning. The west has given it perfect cover to do it.
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I don't see any fault on the part of Russia here. And a *lot* of hypocrisy from the west.
The OP says it all.
Oh. Plus the fact that the west is pissed by Russia being the largest tax haven in the World - and one they can't bully like they can Liechtenstein or the Bahamas.
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Been inclined to wander... off the beaten track.
That's where there's thunder... and the wind shouts back.
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Hey Cold Warrior, what do you think about the fact that your forum name is becoming more relevant every day?
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"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." TJ
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Originally Posted by Big Mac 
Hey Cold Warrior, what do you think about the fact that your forum name is becoming more relevant every day?
Heh. 
Russia and the FSU was an academic focus of mine years after the collapse of the USSR and Russia, long after Russia and the region had become severely de-emphasized among academics, the government, and the military. I knew the country and the game-changing geopolitics it brings would reemerge at some point, although I didn't expect it this soon.
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I'm confident that Bush can fix this problem. After all, he looked Putin in the eye, and has a sense of his soul!
That should be enough, right?
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How is this different from Kosovo, Israel other nations that we like to recognize whenever we feel like?
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For good measure, here it is again:
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Originally Posted by Hugi
How is this different from Kosovo, Israel other nations that we like to recognize whenever we feel like?
The better analogy would be, "How is this different from the United States and Cuba in 1898?" and the answer would be: it's not very, but I don't think there is any cause to welcome the return of naked military imperialism in Russia.
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Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey
The better analogy would be, "How is this different from the United States and Cuba in 1898?" and the answer would be: it's not very, but I don't think there is any cause to welcome the return of naked military imperialism in Russia.
How does recognizing the independence of a nation constitute imperialism? It looks like Georgia is the "imperialist swine" here - wanting to maintain control of an area where 99% of the population chooses independence.
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