[Gene Jockey]

I can't believe this thread still isn't locked. Are all the mods on vacation?

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by powertrippin

Anyone who uses the bible to back up their arguments is a ****ing retard. Your book, your rules, you go to hell.

I present to you, President Lincoln, the great American "retard".

Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men's faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. "Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh." If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said "the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether."

With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.

http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres32.html

[powertrippin]

Originally Posted by MacNStein

I present to you, President Lincoln, the great American "retard".



http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres32.html

Politicians say a lot of stupid crap to get the popular vote of stupid people. Most of our founding forefathers also thought the bible was rubbish (and they were against the idea of a 2 party system).

"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches"

- Ben Franklin

[Zimphire]

Originally Posted by powertrippin

Politicians say a lot of stupid crap to get the popular vote of stupid people.

I agree.

"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches"

- Ben Franklin

Ben must have been trying to get your vote.

Most of our founding forefathers also thought the bible was rubbish (and they were against the idea of a 2 party system).

I've seen both sides of the argument. No one has a monopoly on the truth either way.

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by powertrippin

Politicians say a lot of stupid crap to get the popular vote of stupid people. Most of our founding forefathers also thought the bible was rubbish (and they were against the idea of a 2 party system).

"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches"

- Ben Franklin

this was an inaugural address, not a campaign speech. Furthermore, it was on his 2nd term. Which, though there were no laws against 3 terms, it was unlikely that he would have ran again.

In other words, he was able to more freely speak his mind than at any other point in his career. However, he was just a "f***ing retard", what did he know?

As for most thinking the Bible was rubbish, most were Freemasons. Do you understand what a Freemason's beliefs are?

[Shaddim]

Originally Posted by powertrippin

"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches"

- Ben Franklin

"Helpful", yes.

More beneficial? That's up to the individual to decide.

[Zimphire]

Originally Posted by macamac

American Women Rock.

Understatement of the day.

[Demonhood]

doesn't seem that any real discussion of the issue is going on in this thread. and the animosity stirred up by this topic makes me believe it'll remain that way. so.....