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AppleCello
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Apr 9, 2004, 11:15 AM
 
plays fine in 800x600 low settings on my 1Ghz Powerbook G4 1 gig ram. Havent tried upping the resolution or detail. but it still looks awsome.

Mine does do the 5 minute crash, though. Im looking forward to the fix, I will likely buy this game, and I cant wait to hear news about expansion packs!

I havent bought a game title in a long time, as I have gotten terribly bored with gaming. Command and Conquer was my first real game ever on my 6110 Performa so I cant wait to get into this a bit!

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Apr 9, 2004, 12:40 PM
 
Originally posted by GlendaA:
And even if you think Mac to PC play kills the game for you, give the demo a try. Single player and play against Mac friends is still a blast.

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Glenda,

1. It is VERY VERY cool that you guys read this forum (and respond!) Thank you!

2. It is also VERY VERY cool that you are so responsive with the work to fix the various crashes. Thank You!

3. BTW: It is also very cool that you make Mac games to begin with. Thank You!

4. Now to the point of my post... Hehe - I can't be nice all the time... I am just wondering, what is the reason for not having MAC-PC network play? If many other games do it fine - (Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Unreal, WarCraft, etc etc) what prevented it in C&C:G? I know that, for example, in Total Anhialation the PC version used M$ libraries for network transport that are not available on the Mac... What's up with C&C? I really have no need for a game I can only play by myself - I don't have enough time as it is... And my GameCube games fill that need. I want games I can play with all my friends - and sadly, I am the only Mac user in the bunch. It just makes me and my mac look like losers if I cant play in their net games....

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Apr 9, 2004, 12:57 PM
 
iBook 14" G4 933MHz, 640MB Ram.

The demo plays great, speed is nice and it's fun...until it crashes. Again and again. Looking forward to the patched demo!
     
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Apr 9, 2004, 01:07 PM
 
12" 1GHz 768MB

Runs great with graphics cranked. Not perfect... but great. Never had the crash issues, and I AM running all kinds of themes and haxies.

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Apr 9, 2004, 01:17 PM
 
To answer the question about Mac-PC networking, I'm just going to quote "Dean Lewis" from the MacGamer message boards because he summed it up better than I can:

"9 times out of 10, when a Mac can't talk to the PC version, it's because the PC version used DirectPlay instead of another open platform networking API. Mac porters then replace that code with networking protocols compatible with Macs (which may or may not be open). It is the choice of the original developer to use DirectPlay or go with something else, but it is MicroSoft that keeps DirectPlay closed and even changes it from time to time to befuddle anyone who might figure it out."

So when the PC developers decide to use a closed networking protocol, there's not much that Aspyr or any other Mac porting house can do about it, unfortunately.
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Apr 9, 2004, 02:08 PM
 
tbh, C&C Generals was one of the worst C&C games in the series
they need to port a decent version, like RA2..
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Apr 9, 2004, 04:25 PM
 
Originally posted by g3_brandon:
So when the PC developers decide to use a closed networking protocol, there's not much that Aspyr or any other Mac porting house can do about it, unfortunately.
Actually, Aspyr could start lobbying PC game publishers to make certain allowances for Macintosh ports, including building their networking engines in a way that ports over to the Macintosh. The Mac gaming market is clearly growing, and Aspyr is the leader in it. Its license fees to PC game makers are probably not HUGE, but something that the PC companies still appreciate having on their balance sheet.

Aspyr should have the leverage by now to start lobbying PC publishers to build games with an eye for porting; I ran a console/PC game company for 6 years, and know that a lot of technical decisions that software engineers are likely to make don't even consider porting issues, because porting is A) never certain, and B) done by another company. It's just totally off your average PC team's radar, unless someone actually points out the importance of it.

It won't happen overnight, but it can happen. It's just a question of lobbying and education. I'm sure Aspyr is doing the leg work already....
     
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Apr 9, 2004, 05:15 PM
 
Originally posted by GlendaA:
We just released the C&C Generals demo, so give it a try if you are unsure how it will run on your machine. We set the system requirements very realistically, maybe even conservatively, so I think people will be happy with performance. i5works did a LOT of work on optimizing.

And even if you think Mac to PC play kills the game for you, give the demo a try. Single player and play against Mac friends is still a blast.

Glenda Adams
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Is there any chance Mac to PC play could come later on in a patch or has it been determined that this is completely impossible?
     
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Apr 9, 2004, 05:20 PM
 
Hi Glenda.

Another thing you can hopefully add to the patch is the ability to hit escape to skip the pre-mission trailers.

And this is just a guess, but the camera angle is fixed correct? I can't swing it around to get a better view?

I'm assuming that the ATI 9000 series bug will fix the lose of texture on roads?
     
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Apr 10, 2004, 10:06 AM
 
Runs OK on a QS DP800 W/ 1.5GB ram and a Geforce3 Card. (1280x960? I think) Dropped to 800x600 and didn't notice an extreme speed difference.
Having dual moniters sucks tho! When I scroll off to the left, and onto my other moniter, it starts scrolling the screen right! If there was no second moniter issue this would be a great game for me!
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Apr 10, 2004, 10:52 AM
 
At menu, game freezes. Cursor lost.

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Apr 10, 2004, 02:19 PM
 
Originally posted by wookitus:
Is there any chance Mac to PC play could come later on in a patch or has it been determined that this is completely impossible?
No, that won't be something we can add in a patch, sorry.

We should be able to fix the multi-monitor cursor controls in the first patch, and we'll look into skipping the mission briefings (not sure if that is possible or not).

We've been working with ATI on the 9000 issue, and are narrowing down on a cause.

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Apr 10, 2004, 08:30 PM
 
well if i cant play with my PC freinds, WHATS THE POINT?
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Apr 10, 2004, 10:19 PM
 
Downloaded the whopping 350MB demo last night.

Must say im quite impressed.

It ran quite well on my Imac G4 700 mhz, 384 MB ram, 32MB Gforce 2MX in Panther.

Looks like a pretty cool game - has plenty of character and atmosphere, if lacking in polish a little. Not sure if I like it as much as warcraft III, only time well tell, but its definitely cool.

So what are other people thinking? Like it? Are many people playing it on gameranger yet?
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Apr 10, 2004, 11:26 PM
 
Originally posted by Chimpmaster:
It ran quite well on my Imac G4 700 mhz, 384 MB ram, 32MB Gforce 2MX in Panther.
Seems like C&C:G is very poor with ATI cards

I own Radeon 8500 w/ 64 ram which is far better than Geforce MX 2 yet your card ran it quite well. It ran like crap here
     
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Apr 10, 2004, 11:58 PM
 
Originally posted by rag on a muffin:
well if i cant play with my PC freinds, WHATS THE POINT?
Go pout in the corner, we're not interested. At least Aspyr is making an effort. If you don't like it, then don't play it.
jesse ;-)
     
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Apr 11, 2004, 12:37 AM
 
I just downloaded the demo (still waiting for my copy to arrive from the Apple Store).

The game played much better than I anticipated. In 800x600 mode it really played fast. When I upped the res to the next higher and the detail up to Medium it slowed a bit, but not to an unplayable state, IMO.

I am not sure how my hard drive upgrade has affected the performance at all.

This is on a rev. A Powerbook 17 with 1 Gig Ram and a 7200 rpm hard drive.

I can hardly wait to take on other people!
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Apr 11, 2004, 12:39 AM
 
Oh yeah,

It played fine on the Chinese mission, the GLA mission, and then on the training mode mission with the USA, it did hang and had to be force quite, but did not take down the whole machine.
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Apr 11, 2004, 02:11 AM
 
is this game as good as warcraft? or close? im looking for a good strategy game.
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Apr 11, 2004, 07:27 AM
 
Its personal taste, but I like it better than Warcraft. They are both very good games and if you like one, you should have fun with the other.

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Apr 11, 2004, 09:46 PM
 
Originally posted by jessejlt:
Go pout in the corner, we're not interested. At least Aspyr is making an effort. If you don't like it, then don't play it.
jesse ;-)
Or, better yet, we can buy the PC version (like I did) so I can play with my PC friends. No doubt, Aspyr is going to point to piracy as the reason why it's not selling.

Oh, and why couldn't you have ported Zero Hour at the same time? It's been out for almost a year now. I got both Generals and Zero Hour for the PC for what's being charged for Generals only for the Mac.
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Apr 11, 2004, 11:19 PM
 
Performance is disappointing... FSAA just kills it. Runs just fine with FSAA on my PC
(G5 DP1.8/9800Pro v. P4 3.06/9700Pro).

Still a great game though
Be happy.
     
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Apr 13, 2004, 09:47 AM
 
any word on the patches?? I cant wait to get my hands on this.

Patrick
     
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Apr 13, 2004, 09:38 PM
 
Originally posted by AppleCello:
any word on the patches?? I cant wait to get my hands on this.

Patrick
Here is some news

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Apr 14, 2004, 12:01 AM
 
i think i will get warcraft 3, then this. i REALLY want starcraft 2.
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Apr 14, 2004, 01:21 AM
 
Originally posted by a rag:
i REALLY want starcraft 2.
As do we all, but it hasnt even been announced so I wouldnt get my hopes up.

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Apr 14, 2004, 03:53 AM
 
Very Cool. Now to find the time to play... Im thinking a series of late nights when I should be sleeping. Aspyr will be help responsible for my drop in productivity in the coming weeks!

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Apr 14, 2004, 05:44 PM
 
We just released the 1.0.1 demo patch, so head over to MacGameFiles.com and grab it if you have any problems with the demo!

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Thanks!

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Apr 14, 2004, 07:36 PM
 
Waiting with great anticipation for the full release patch. Definitely getting a little tired of rearranging my second displays windows after each C&C session.
     
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Apr 15, 2004, 09:41 AM
 
Got the patch, and it works great on my Powerbook. I have keep the detail at low, but hey that doesn't ruin the fun. WOOT. Guess my productivity just took a header.
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Apr 15, 2004, 10:33 AM
 
try customizing the details settings. I turned on a few extras and my powerbook is still running the demo as smooth as ever. i will gradually add in more details features until i notice that the performance is too slow.

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Apr 15, 2004, 06:03 PM
 
Originally posted by FurionStormrage:
Or, better yet, we can buy the PC version (like I did) so I can play with my PC friends. No doubt, Aspyr is going to point to piracy as the reason why it's not selling.

Oh, and why couldn't you have ported Zero Hour at the same time? It's been out for almost a year now. I got both Generals and Zero Hour for the PC for what's being charged for Generals only for the Mac.
It costs more money to get expansion packs. The Zero Hour expansion pack may not have been out when the contract was originally negotiated. Since there's no guarantee on how well the game will sell they probably didn't want to spring for the xp just yet. If the game sells well, then they'll probably go after the xp. If not, then that's money they can put toward a license for a different game. There isn't much room for profit in Mac porting so they have to make careful decisions with their assets.
     
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Apr 15, 2004, 06:11 PM
 
Originally posted by k2director:
Waiting with great anticipation for the full release patch. Definitely getting a little tired of rearranging my second displays windows after each C&C session.
http://www.macgamefiles.com/detail.php?item=18132

Ask and you shall receieve. I wish Amazon had gotten their stock in by now, I had it ordered from there but it still hasn't come in, so I cancelled. I just went with Maczone, hopefully it'll be here by Monday. I hate to say it, but the demo is starting to get repetitive.... LOL I can't wait for the full version.
     
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Apr 24, 2004, 08:29 AM
 
This game is really fun. I am enjoying it very much.

My fan on the Powerbook runs constantly though, and the only bummer is you cannot skip the intro movies to the missions. Otherwise, very nice. I have is set to the high resolution and Medium quality and things start to bog down with lots of units on the screen.

My only problem now is I have no clue how this Gameranger thing works. I singed up on their site but they have not sent me an email confirmation. Or .mac mail is not working right. Bummer.

I look forward to playing some of you!
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Apr 26, 2004, 06:34 AM
 
Bought the full version this weekend, downloaded and installed the patch. Even so, I still haven�t made it through one mission without a crash, and in one instance got a kernel panic.

Running a PB 17�, 1.33 Ghz, 1 GB RAM, and a clean 10.3.3 system (no third party extensions).

Anyone else having such troubles even with the patch installed? I�m on a trip this week, and was looking forward to playing this game in my spare time.
     
 
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