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JKT · Mar 12, 2009, 03:14 PM

http://www.macworld.com/article/1393...?lsrc=rss_main

JKT · Mar 12, 2009, 03:17 PM

I guess this means many people (iPod users) are likely to be charged for features that should have already been there as I doubt we're going to see anything new in OS 2.0 from now on other than minor bug fixes.

Spheric Harlot · Mar 12, 2009, 05:03 PM

iPod users would be charged for new features, anyway.

Andrew Stephens · Mar 12, 2009, 05:11 PM

hello cut and paste.

ctt1wbw · Mar 12, 2009, 05:14 PM

T-Minus one week and counting until the Bitch Fest begins.

Dakar V · Mar 12, 2009, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Andrew Stephens

hello cut and paste.

I am really gonna enjoy the threads if it isn't included.

olePigeon · Mar 12, 2009, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by JKT

I guess this means many people (iPod users) are likely to be charged for features that should have already been there as I doubt we're going to see anything new in OS 2.0 from now on other than minor bug fixes.

Maybe $1.99.

Maflynn · Mar 12, 2009, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar V

I am really gonna enjoy the threads if it isn't included.

I'm sure there will be plenty of whining threads even if cut and paste is included

Simon · Mar 12, 2009, 05:54 PM

I'd like
• tethering
• turn by turn directions
• copy/paste
• none of the usual bitching in here when not everybody gets what they had hoped for

In that order.

::maroma:: · Mar 12, 2009, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by ctt1wbw

T-Minus one week and counting until the Bitch Fest begins.

Its already begun. (see 3 posts above yours)

Eug · Mar 12, 2009, 06:58 PM

I want:

1) Tethering. My contract is 6 GB data, and includes tethering.
2) Copy/paste
3) Flash

I don't care about MMS, but others do. I know many of you hate Flash. I don't love it either, but the bottom line is much of the net is dependent upon Flash. I really notice the lack of Flash when I surf on the iPhone. Yeah, it'd be very slow, but slow is better than nothing.

JKT · Mar 12, 2009, 06:59 PM

Cough, that was an observation regarding the absence of the notifications system which never arrived back in September (as promised by Apple) ... not a whine, I hope. I'm guessing that something like it will be in version 3.0 but will now never arrive for version 2.0.

ajprice · Mar 12, 2009, 07:41 PM

I'm wondering how they'll play the backwards compatability with original and 3G iPhones if this is released as the OS with the next iPhone. If its fully compatible, the new iPhone has to have some decent new hardware to make an upgrade worth it over a 3G or original iPhone.

Dakar V · Mar 12, 2009, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Maflynn

I'm sure there will be plenty of whining threads even if cut and paste is included

Yeah and none of them will be nearly as entertaining as a cut and paste thread.

Wiskedjak · Mar 12, 2009, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

Maybe $1.99.

$1.99? Have you seen what iPod users were charged for the last 2 updates?

Maflynn · Mar 12, 2009, 08:55 PM

I'm kind of hoping for MMS. My sends me pictures of my kids from her phone and it would be nice to get them without jumping through hoops

B Gallagher · Mar 12, 2009, 10:20 PM

Can someone please explain what tethering is?

ctt1wbw · Mar 12, 2009, 10:28 PM

Tethering is a blatant source of customer rape, otherwise known as revenue for ATT. It's where you hook your iPhone up to your laptop to use as a wireless modem. Slower than dog ****.

MarkLT1 · Mar 12, 2009, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by B Gallagher

Can someone please explain what tethering is?

Tethering would allow an outside machine (say your laptop) to use your iPhone's 3G network access, either via the USB cable (tether) or more likely, via bluetooth. In other words, tethering lets your iPhone act as a bridge to the 3G network.

jvr2 · Mar 13, 2009, 01:56 AM

I'd like:

1) GPS Turn by Turn Directions <- would be happy with just this
2) Tethering <- don't want it if it comes with extra charges. I pay for unlimited data dammit!
3) Copy/Paste
4) Run third party apps in background <- would like to be able to listen to Pandora or AOL radio and got look at email or surf web at the same time
5) Sideways texting
6) Sideways email

And if they give me all this i'd jump for joy.

B Gallagher · Mar 13, 2009, 02:32 AM

Thanks ctt1wbw and MarkLT1.

Simon · Mar 13, 2009, 03:41 AM

Unfortunately, even if we get tethering, I have this bad feeling hardly anybody will end up using it because operators will price it entirely out of reach. It's a real bummer. Where I live now I have used another 3G phone to tether to my MBP and actually saw about 2 Mbps.

Spheric Harlot · Mar 13, 2009, 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by ctt1wbw

Tethering is a blatant source of customer rape, otherwise known as revenue for ATT. It's where you hook your iPhone up to your laptop to use as a wireless modem. Slower than dog ****.

T-Mobile's iPhone contracts here in Germany up until February came with a free MultiSIM (a second SIM card on the same contract).

You could stick that into a USB stick and surf with your laptop at no extra charge at all.

And honestly, if 7.2 Mbps is too slow for you, you must see some FAST dog **** in your neighborhood.

ctt1wbw · Mar 13, 2009, 02:24 PM

I was comparing it to my wireless setup at home. 3G is much slower than that.

Eug · Mar 13, 2009, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by jvr2

6) Sideways email

Oh yeah. Forgot about this. I keep turning my iPhone sideways when I read email, only to realize (again) that this is not supported.

Originally Posted by Simon

Unfortunately, even if we get tethering, I have this bad feeling hardly anybody will end up using it because operators will price it entirely out of reach. It's a real bummer. Where I live now I have used another 3G phone to tether to my MBP and actually saw about 2 Mbps.

My iPhone contract (6 GB data/month for CAD$30) already includes tethering.

That's why I'm so annoyed iPhone 2 doesn't support it. (I don't want to jailbreak my iPhone.)

ctt1wbw · Mar 13, 2009, 04:33 PM

I jailbroke my iPhone about a month ago. I restored it the other day because it was unstable as all hell. No matter what I did, some program kept crashing the springboard. Happened about 5 times a week, so I gave up. I thought I was going to be able to use the MMS program on cydia, but it wasn't free. Also, it still didn't support ATT Wireless.

turtle777 · Mar 13, 2009, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by ctt1wbw

I jailbroke my iPhone about a month ago. I restored it the other day because it was unstable as all hell. No matter what I did, some program kept crashing the springboard. Happened about 5 times a week, so I gave up. I thought I was going to be able to use the MMS program on cydia, but it wasn't free. Also, it still didn't support ATT Wireless.

Ha, that's exactly why I don't touch my iPhone.

That kind of crap would drive me nuts. I buy Apple products exactly because I don't want that kind of stuff to happen.

-t

Geofries · Mar 13, 2009, 08:29 PM

Can we just get landscape texting? Apple is failing at the basics. And how about push which was promised ages ago. Geez.

gentryfunk · Mar 13, 2009, 10:09 PM

OK, how about some battery life? I mean seriously, my 2.5 iPhone is a battery HOG...the recharge time is fine AND I want more battery life....software update can improve that; and maybe part of iPhone 3.0 hardware too,

Eriamjh · Mar 15, 2009, 05:40 PM

I wonder how long it will take the DevTeam to jailbreak the new firmware.

osiris · Mar 17, 2009, 11:26 AM

Let's hope that a few needed updates are announced (if not released) today!

Simon · Mar 17, 2009, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by osiris

Let's hope that a few needed updates are announced (if not released) today!

Release is very unlikely. These advance sessions are given in order for developers to start working on upgrading their apps and writing apps that make use of new features. The event is deliberately about preview, not release.

osiris · Mar 17, 2009, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Simon

Release is very unlikely. These advance sessions are given in order for developers to start working on upgrading their apps and writing apps that make use of new features. The event is deliberately about preview, not release.

My parenthesis are overly optimistic.

Dakar V · Mar 17, 2009, 01:30 PM

(yes they are)

osiris · Mar 17, 2009, 01:39 PM

A fella can dream.

so far: peer2peer bluetooth, in game downloads, HTTP streaming, Map embedding...

Eug · Mar 17, 2009, 01:51 PM

Yeah, but where's my copy-n-paste? One more thing?

Dakar V · Mar 17, 2009, 01:52 PM

I suppose they could be saving it for last.

olePigeon · Mar 17, 2009, 01:57 PM

Looks like people will get their bluetooth keyboards.

osiris · Mar 17, 2009, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar V

I suppose they could be saving it for last.

Now you're being optimistic.

Eug · Mar 17, 2009, 02:04 PM

Yay! Copy-n-paste!!!111one

P.S. Leaf Trombone is so frickin awesomely strange.

osiris · Mar 17, 2009, 02:05 PM

Yes!!!!!

Dakar V · Mar 17, 2009, 02:08 PM

Let the outpouring of joy begin.

osiris · Mar 17, 2009, 02:10 PM

OMG multi-photo emailing!

Eug · Mar 17, 2009, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar V

Let the outpouring of joy begin.

I will be overwhelmed with elation if we get 3G tethering.

P.S. We just got landscape email and landscape everything else Apple too.

P.P.S. We just got MMS too. Not a big deal for me, but important for others.

Dakar V · Mar 17, 2009, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by Eug

I will be overwhelmed with elation if we get 3G tethering.

I'm leaving the splash zone, just in case.

osiris · Mar 17, 2009, 02:14 PM

landscape everything, MMS!

turtle777 · Mar 17, 2009, 02:14 PM

MMS support. Yikes.

-t

Eug · Mar 17, 2009, 02:21 PM

Spotlight

Shake to shuffle songs

Stereo Bluetooth

No 3G tethering. DAMMIT.

turtle777 · Mar 17, 2009, 02:24 PM

Other new features (from Giz): "Notes Sync, audio/video tags, live streaming, shake to shuffle, Wi-Fi auto login, Stereo Bluetooth, LDAP, iTunes account creation, YouTube ratings, Anti-Philshing, Call Log, Parental Controls, Media Scrubber, OTA profiles, VPN on demand, Languages, YouTube subscriptions, YouTube accounts and Encrypted profiles. Also, auto-fills. The biggest addition here is probably Stereo Bluetooth A2DP support."

Funny typo in AppleInsider Live Coverage.

-t

osiris · Mar 17, 2009, 02:27 PM

Available this summer.