[KidRed]

I'm surprised I haven't see mention of scrolling yet, at least in Safari.

[bamburg dunes]

One thing about expose that really made a big impression on me, is the ability to hide all applications, select some files (keepign the mouse button pressed down) from the desktop, then choose to show all apps in the window, and then choose the window you want to move the files onto, amazing tiem saver.

Also, you can make the finder behave in exactly the same way as Jag, sort of. Open a finder window, press the button on the top right of the titlebar to hide the sidebar/toolbar, then go to view/showtoolbar... voila!!! you can then select the column view and it's just like the old finder, even including the square corners on the botom of the window.

[THE MAC GOD]

OK... so was I right in reading that LONG ASS shutdown/restart times are gone? That is one thing that drove me up the wall about Jag... everything BEFORE it shutdown almost immediately... none of this staring at a screenshot with a little spinning black thing for 2 minutes on a dual 1ghz...

[farmer]

I'm sure this has been brought up in this thread but I am to lazy to read all the pages.

Can you right click a minimized window in the dock and close it?

Never liked the fact that you had to umminimize it to close it.

I know this is windowish behavior so no rants please.


Thanx in advance

[Adam Betts]

Originally posted by farmer:
Can you right click a minimized window in the dock and close it?

Yep but it doesnt seem to work with few windows.

[Colonel Panic]

Originally posted by bamburg dunes:
One thing about expose that really made a big impression on me, is the ability to hide all applications, select some files (keepign the mouse button pressed down) from the desktop, then choose to show all apps in the window, and then choose the window you want to move the files onto, amazing tiem saver.

Also, you can make the finder behave in exactly the same way as Jag, sort of. Open a finder window, press the button on the top right of the titlebar to hide the sidebar/toolbar, then go to view/showtoolbar... voila!!! you can then select the column view and it's just like the old finder, even including the square corners on the botom of the window.

i may have missed this earlier, but how does your panther Finder not have brushed metal? title bar looks aqua?

[Spheric Harlot]

I would just like to pipe in at this point to say that I briefly clean-installed Panther on my iMac DV 400, 80GB/768MB in between two reformats (setting up an Airport iTunes server for the house ).

I had it on there for about half an hour, and have to say that I was really impressed by general feel and responsiveness of the system on my machine. Very pleasant.

I do hope that this will carry over into the release. It now seems much more like the raw CPU power is what puts the limit on what you can do simultaneously. The feeling that the GUI was slowing down the machine as well is gone.

Thanks to all for the details. I get the impression that much of what wasn't explicitly presented at the conference will yet change quite substantially.

Looking forward to final.

-s*

[Musti]

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
I do hope that this will carry over into the release. It now seems much more like the raw CPU power is what puts the limit on what you can do simultaneously. The feeling that the GUI was slowing down the machine as well is gone.

...

Looking forward to final.

Amen to that!

[boingboing]

a couple panther questions:

how is the home directory encryption handled? Is there an easy way to enable or disable this on the fly? can one encrypt other folders? What is involved with that?

the brushed metal finder window with the sidebar, is that the initial window that one sees when opening the HD? Or is that the way every finder window looks in panther? is there a way to have the initial window show the sidebar, and all other windows not have the sidebar?

[THE MAC GOD]

This is the way X was supposed to be. It's gorgeous and fast (on my rev. A iMac) and it's just such a step up from Jag (can't believe i'm saying that).

[ShotgunEd]

Originally posted by boingboing:
a couple panther questions:

how is the home directory encryption handled? Is there an easy way to enable or disable this on the fly? can one encrypt other folders? What is involved with that?

the brushed metal finder window with the sidebar, is that the initial window that one sees when opening the HD? Or is that the way every finder window looks in panther? is there a way to have the initial window show the sidebar, and all other windows not have the sidebar?

Your questions have already been answered either in this thread or in the other thread here.

[scotty321]

Originally posted by farmer:
Can you right click a minimized window in the dock and close it?

This seems to ONLY work with Finder windows, not with any other applications.

[Grrr]

Take my wrist and slap it now..
I too was naughty and got myself the preview edition of 10.3 And you know what? I am so impressed, that I most definitely will be buying the final version. Yes I know, it's still not a "Correct" thing to do blah blah.. But little use in dwelling on it now. Besides, (and take note) kicking up a stink about it makes for crap reading on here..

So, for me, 10.3 is noticeably faster, particularly where the UI is concerned. And this addresses one of my main gripes about 10.2 and previous versions of OS X before it. The seemingly treacle coated UI response could make a mac feel slower than it really was. Well, on my testing "mule" iMac 400 (I have other, faster macs), that sluggishness has mostly gone. Not to the point of OS 8/9 snappiness but definitely a step in that direction. So far, it just seems to be a more efficient OS. Windows scroll more smoothly, apps launch faster. And troublesome apps that struggled along a bit in 10.2 sure are running better in 10.3 (cept Toast that wont run at all for whatever reason).
10.3 also doesnt like faulty icons one little bit. And this can cause some nasty 'finder' crashes that can be an absolute *&%�$@! to put right. But hey, it's a pre release so I cant grumble. Especially as everything else works so well.
Completed Microsoft OS's dont work as well as Apples pre release OS's! Oh the joys of being a mac user

to Apple

[cowicide]

I've herd that there's issues using 10.2.6, etc. after you've used Panther on another drive. Something about permissions getting screwed up or something?

Has anyone here had any issues using 10.2.6 on another drive/partition after using Panther?

[npmccallum]

I didn't go to WWDC, but I'd like to get ahold of DP1. Was this available only to those developers that went? Or is it possible to download it anywhere? or order CDs through ADC?

Thanks
nathaniel

[Alex00087]

Originally posted by npmccallum:
I didn't go to WWDC, but I'd like to get ahold of DP1. Was this available only to those developers that went? Or is it possible to download it anywhere? or order CDs through ADC?

Thanks
nathaniel

You should be able to get it if you are an ADC member.

[kelix]

Well. it's update time people!

Here are the NEW builds and changes...
responsiveness has increased 10% and mail and ichat have been "overhauled" much better load times now for both and expose is seamless.. oh and BTW (for those pismo users out there try expose now )
Pictures to follow!

[kelix]

here they are

[Grrr]

Ahh.. that screen shot bug that causes fooking massive picts still hasnt been fixed then

[Tsilou B.]

Originally posted by scotty321:
This seems to ONLY work with Finder windows, not with any other applications.

This works automatically with ALL applications that make proper use of Carbon Events. I guess they will add the same functionality to Cocoa. Carbon applications that still use the obsolete and deprecated Mac OS 9 event model won't get that functionality without code changes.

[osxisfun]

> responsiveness has increased 10% a

did you take in account the normal speed up one gets from a restart?