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Where is the microphone cord?

mitchell_pgh · Aug 28, 2006, 04:06 PM

And low quality image manipulation to boot!

olePigeon · Aug 28, 2006, 04:07 PM

How does that crap get in there? It's just so freakin' obvious.

Dakar · Aug 28, 2006, 04:07 PM

They should have cropped it before you could see jeans. More suggestive.

turtle777 · Aug 28, 2006, 04:07 PM

WTF, NY Times ?

-t

Jawbone54 · Aug 28, 2006, 04:14 PM

The whole thing keeps getting weirder. This is why some people should just LEAVE PHOTOSHOP ALONE. And what's with getting rid of a microphone cord, anyways?

OwlBoy · Aug 28, 2006, 04:15 PM

Now that stuff is retarded.

If it was not on the nytimes website I would not belive it since its so blatently bad.

-Owl

baw · Aug 28, 2006, 04:33 PM

The photographer says it isn't a photoshopped image.

If you look carefully at the frame, you will see a slightly wide band of dark area that runs from the head of a marine with dark hair in the back row up to the singer. Look carefully at the wall from that marine’s head up to the top of the frame and you will see the blurred cable that was in motion because the dancer was moving it as she spoke to the marines. The full cable is in the shot but is blurred. The reason it isn’t sharp is because the frame was shot at 1/6 of a second in a room that was dark. The flash filled in the frame but wasn’t the main light, the room light provided the main light for the frame. The long exposure balanced the light from the strobe on my camera with the ambient light in the room. The cable was moving as was the singer and the marines. If you look carefully at the frame, you’ll see that nothing in the frame is tack/crisp sharp. I looked in the paper that I got out here and know that the reproduction left the wire virtually invisible.

turtle777 · Aug 28, 2006, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by baw

The photographer says it isn't a photoshopped image.

Nah, if that's true, why would the cable suddenly become all blury ?

BS !

-t

Dakar · Aug 28, 2006, 04:41 PM

That's somewhat believable. If you look in the back, half of one soldier's head is in the 'photoshopped zone' but clearly they would have nothing to fake half his head with.

Jawbone54 · Aug 28, 2006, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by baw

The photographer says it isn't a photoshopped image.

The photogropher is a filthy, dirty, rotten, stinking, mangy, anti-Semitic liar.

I threw that last adjective in to please a certain Australian.

But what a weird think to lie about, honestly...
Make you think that maybe it's just a weird mistake/illusion after all.

[EDIT] Took another look. I think that is the blurred cord after all.

mdc · Aug 28, 2006, 04:51 PM

They should've photoshoped the cable in in this case, to stop all this

Doofy · Aug 28, 2006, 04:51 PM

I'm buying the blurred cable story.

You wanna see how blurry microphone cables can become when it's "pack up before going partying" time.

analogika · Aug 28, 2006, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Nah, if that's true, why would the cable suddenly become all blury ?

motion blur.

Dakar · Aug 28, 2006, 04:55 PM

Restlessness.

turtle777 · Aug 28, 2006, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by analogika

motion blur.

Does that explain why / how the upper half moved, and the lower not ?

-t

baw · Aug 28, 2006, 05:01 PM

Ok, NYT fixed it.

turtle777 · Aug 28, 2006, 05:03 PM

Finally

-t

Jawbone54 · Aug 28, 2006, 05:10 PM

That must be the original...surely...

analogika · Aug 28, 2006, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Does that explain why / how the upper half moved, and the lower not ?

Yes, it does.

Since you've apparently never played with a jump-rope, grab any old cord of sufficient length, have one end lying on the ground, and hold the other end up high, gently move your hand in a small circle.

villalobos · Aug 28, 2006, 05:50 PM

What's not fake is the looks on these guys faces, starring at the girl...

ThinkInsane · Aug 28, 2006, 06:21 PM

Motion blur was my first thought as well. A microphone cord isn't something you would expect to stay still, especially in the hands of that stripper.

SirCastor · Aug 28, 2006, 06:25 PM

It's a snake...

"We got snakes on the stage!"

::maroma:: · Aug 28, 2006, 06:59 PM

I'm going to say that the image is not Photoshopped. My reasoning is that if they indeed did Photoshop it, then why is it that the easiest part to Photoshop (the cord above the heads of the soldiers) was so terribly done, while the cord that is in front of the soldiers was done very well? You'd think that you'd see blatant evidence of it within the faces and the camo of the soldiers, but instead it looks almost perfect while the clean flat wall above looks to be horribly Photoshopped.

There's my 2 cents.

ajprice · Aug 28, 2006, 07:05 PM

I found the photoshop work of the original image to be flawless...

It must have taken hours to get a quality of work like that.

tutelary · Aug 28, 2006, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by ::maroma::

I'm going to say that the image is not Photoshopped. My reasoning is that if they indeed did Photoshop it, then why is it that the easiest part to Photoshop (the cord above the heads of the soldiers) was so terribly done, while the cord that is in front of the soldiers was done very well? You'd think that you'd see blatant evidence of it within the faces and the camo of the soldiers, but instead it looks almost perfect while the clean flat wall above looks to be horribly Photoshopped.

There's my 2 cents.

^^dumbest person in this thread ladies and gents.^^

jckalen · Aug 28, 2006, 07:55 PM

I would've photoshopped a bit more of a backside on that girl personally.

voodoo · Aug 28, 2006, 07:57 PM

You guys are so missing the point

http://www.thepurrfectangelz.com/Ang...nea_Brooks.htm

http://www.thepurrfectangelz.com/Ang..._Collisimo.htm

http://www.thepurrfectangelz.com/Ang...lauren_kim.htm

:sigh:

V

davesimondotcom · Aug 28, 2006, 08:01 PM

I can buy the cord blurring explanation.

Doofy · Aug 28, 2006, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by voodoo

You guys are so missing the point

Heh.

Originally Posted by voodoo

http://www.thepurrfectangelz.com/Ang...nea_Brooks.htm

http://www.thepurrfectangelz.com/Ang..._Collisimo.htm

http://www.thepurrfectangelz.com/Ang...lauren_kim.htm

:sigh:

Meh. Jessica from the Pussycat Dolls kicks all their booties.

- - e r i k - - · Aug 28, 2006, 09:01 PM

Yeah. That's motion blur alright. No photoshopping here. Sorry about your sleuthing there.

philm · Aug 29, 2006, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by voodoo

You guys are so missing the point

Tanea Brooks

I like:

Favorite color: All colors

Well, it's a tough question.

chris v · Aug 29, 2006, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

The photogropher is a filthy, dirty, rotten, stinking, mangy, anti-Semitic liar.

I threw that last adjective in to please a certain Australian.

But what a weird think to lie about, honestly...
Make you think that maybe it's just a weird mistake/illusion after all.

[EDIT] Took another look. I think that is the blurred cord after all.

Maybe he's not lying and it is blurred (I can buy that after looking twice) but he's still a filthy, dirty, rotten, stinking, mangy, anti-Semitic liar.

Because all people we don't like are, of course. When will those we disagree with ever learn to bathe?

Y3a · Aug 29, 2006, 08:56 AM

IF the cord was pretty much motionless on the ground and was IN FOCUS,
and
the upper part was moving so fast as to blur out,

their would STILL BE A TRANSITION between the two. THERE ISN'T.

I guess you need to play with slow speed frame capture more.

Troll · Aug 29, 2006, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by chris v

When will those we disagree with ever learn to bathe?

I think it's just as well they haven't learned to bathe. If they didn't stink, how we would know who to shoot?

PS That photo is definitely NOT photoshopped.

TETENAL · Aug 29, 2006, 09:03 AM

Crop, colour correct, sharpen.

Every photo runs through Photoshop.

- - e r i k - - · Aug 29, 2006, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Y3a

IF the cord was pretty much motionless on the ground and was IN FOCUS,
and
the upper part was moving so fast as to blur out,

their would STILL BE A TRANSITION between the two. THERE ISN'T.

I guess you need to play with slow speed frame capture more.

There is. Look closer.

And play with chords a bit more. Note in particular what happens if you pull in one end with a snapping movement.

I know photography. I know physics. And I most certainly know photoshop. That is not photoshopped.

::maroma:: · Aug 29, 2006, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by tutelary

^^dumbest person in this thread ladies and gents.^^

Wow, what did I miss?

(other than the fact that tutelary is a total cock.)

Eug · Aug 29, 2006, 12:26 PM

Doesn't look ps'd.

analogika · Aug 29, 2006, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

There is. Look closer.

And play with chords a bit more. Note in particular what happens if you pull in one end with a snapping movement.

I know photography. I know physics. And I most certainly know photoshop. That is not photoshopped.

Your opinion is noted.

Remember, physics is just a bunch of THEORIES.

(God ain't never played with a jump-rope, and he sure as HELL don't do Photoshop.)

Chuckit · Aug 29, 2006, 03:36 PM

Not shopped. That's how microphone cords move. Clearly not enough people played around with microphone cords and cameras when they were kids.

Kerrigan · Aug 29, 2006, 04:45 PM

Oh come on, I could tell the cord had been blurred after 5 seconds of looking at the pic, and I'm no PS expert.

Chuckit · Aug 29, 2006, 04:50 PM

Yes, the cord was blurred, but not in Photoshop.

Dakar · Aug 29, 2006, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Yes, the cord was blurred, but not in Photoshop.

MS Paint?

Kerrigan · Aug 29, 2006, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Yes, the cord was blurred, but not in Photoshop.

Ya that's what I meant. I looked at how moving objects like clapping hands were blurred, and just figgured that the cord was blurred by its own movement.

Chuckit · Aug 29, 2006, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar

MS Paint?

No, MacPaint.

turtle777 · Aug 29, 2006, 04:58 PM

It's funny how this thread evolved.

First it was clear for everyone that posted that is was PS'ed.

Then someone said that the photographer said it was NOT PS'ed.

Suddenly, the vast majority of the posters can clearly see that it was not PS'ed.

My conclusion: most here (incl. me) don't know jack, but talk like they did.
Welcome to MacNN.

-t

analogika · Aug 29, 2006, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Oh come on, I could tell the cord had been blurred after 5 seconds of looking at the pic, and I'm no PS expert.

Right. If you were, you'd have realized that it's NOT 'shopped.

compare what happens to the rope right near the handles.

Chuckit · Aug 29, 2006, 05:01 PM

Eh, I didn't see the thread yesterday.

Kerrigan · Aug 29, 2006, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by analogika

Right. If you were, you'd have realized that it's NOT 'shopped.

Read my response to Chuckit, above.