[Wiskedjak]

Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE 

I wouldn't mind a guy in office who'll basically just stay the F out of everyone's way, and lets the country and the people do what they do without nanny state intervention, which is really what makes the nation work. It's what any good politician should really do,

So, really, you can't be terribly happy with alot of the actions by the current US Administration.

[Warren Pease]

This thread makes a whole lot more sense if you put the hyphen in the title where it belongs.

Here are some interesting views Rocketboom : Religion and Politics @ 1:30.

[TETENAL]

Originally Posted by Warren Pease 

Here are some interesting views Rocketboom : Religion and Politics @ 1:30.

Wow, those are some really lazy thinkers.

[el chupacabra]

obama said something to the effect of he used to wear the flag pin but stopped when it started being used for fear mongering and rallying people for war.

he said he was taught as a child to stand with hands down during anthem.

by the way Im not proud of the this country either, considering whats happened in the past few decades.

(I work with a bunch of doctors...it's amazing how many of them I hear talking about how they don't like Obama's connections with Jihad terrorist. I just stay silent because Im a minority in not believing it...another thing they always talk about is how they're not going to fall for the GW hoax)

Ron Paul for president !

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally Posted by Wiskedjak 

So, really, you can't be terribly happy with alot of the actions by the current US Administration.

I'm not happy with a lot of the actions of the current US Government as a whole. It's way too big, way too wasteful, and has its ineffective tentacles in far too many things it was never charged with. We don't need more politicians that spend all their time looking for ways to grow the behemoth even more. And yes, the Bush administration gets an F- for much of what it's done on the overspending and big government front too.

[Buckaroo]

Originally Posted by Warren Pease 

This thread makes a whole lot more sense if you put the hyphen in the title where it belongs.

Yeah, I was sick that day during (hyphen) class.

[Arty50]

Originally Posted by Wiskedjak 

But then, I find it funny that the land of the free has rules dictating how one must stand during the national anthem and that one must wear a kilogram of pins to declare their various allegiences.

We Haf Vays Ov Dealing Wit People Like You. You Vill Zalute Zee Flag!!!

[midwinter]

I am wearing a flag pin right now.

[macintologist]

Does This Make George H.W. Bush Unpatriotic? - Politics on The Huffington Post

[Buckaroo]

Originally Posted by macintologist 

Does This Make George H.W. Bush Unpatriotic? - Politics on The Huffington Post

Without any video it is impossible to say for sure exactly what is going on here. There is NO doubt with the video of Obama. Besides, old Bush isn't running for president here. Obama with his attitude is.

[villalobos]

I think Buckaroo is right. For the same reason you need flairs to work at Chotchkies, you should wear a pin to be the President.

[ShortcutToMoncton]

Originally Posted by Buckaroo 

Without any video it is impossible to say for sure exactly what is going on here. There is NO doubt with the video of Obama. Besides, old Bush isn't running for president here. Obama with his attitude is.

Like, what, maybe he's scratching his ass?

greg

[Wiskedjak]

Perhaps it's just me, but I see anyone going through the effort of a political race as "patriotic". Republican politicians care so much about their country that they want to keep it just as it is. Democratic politicians care so much about their country that they want to make it even better.

All this "OH NO! He didn't put his hand over his heart" or "He only cares enough to put his hand over his groin" or "he's not wearing any pins!!!" is just a bunch of nonsense.

[smacintush]

This is my favorite thread…ever

[Shaddim]

I will admit that I don't put my hand over my heart, but I do take off my hat.

[Buckaroo]

Originally Posted by ShortcutToMoncton 

Like, what, maybe he's scratching his ass?

greg

No.

It could be at the end and he's already dropped his hand down and the others have not yet, or it could be some other countries national anthem and the other two guys are doing what they would normally do out of instinct, and Bush new better. You don't really know what is going on here.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally Posted by Buckaroo 

No.

It could be at the end and he's already dropped his hand down and the others have not yet, or it could be some other countries national anthem and the other two guys are doing what they would normally do out of instinct, and Bush new better. You don't really know what is going on here.

In which case, if he were a politician you didn't like, you'd probably say he wasn't being as patriotic as everybody else by putting his hands behind his back as soon as possible.

[vmarks]

I actually sing the National Anthem - it's not supposed to be a performance, it's supposed to be something everyone can do.

That sporting events have turned it into a performance as less and less people feel comfortable joining in is a side-effect, and should not be intentional.

I will always sing the National Anthem.

I sing it almost every morning at 9am.

[aristotles]

Originally Posted by Macrobat 

More bothering to me is the lying, plathering, backstabbing, two-faced Obama who will say anything to get elected.

Hot Air � Blog Archive � Obama’s NAFTA double-talk confirmed: CTV

This is a much more serious issue. If this is true, Obama poses a serious threat to the economies of all three countries in North America. If he is speaking out of ignorance of the economic realities in Canada, the United States and Mexico then that is troubling but can be fixed with some education by more learned advisors. However, if he is aware of the interdependencies between the nations and is not just lying to get votes then I would say that he must be stopped at all costs.

I hope the republicans win and you should too unless you want to replace one idiot with a different kind of idiot.

[lpkmckenna]

Originally Posted by Warren Pease 

Rocketboom : Religion and Politics @ 1:30.

Dear God, can you do something about these followers of yours? Thanks.

It's so sad to listen to a young person speak like such a f*tard while being so confident and eloquent.

[ShortcutToMoncton]

Originally Posted by vmarks 

I actually sing the National Anthem - it's not supposed to be a performance, it's supposed to be something everyone can do.

That sporting events have turned it into a performance as less and less people feel comfortable joining in is a side-effect, and should not be intentional.

I will always sing the National Anthem.

I sing it almost every morning at 9am.

For any particular reasons?

greg

[vmarks]

To which statement are you responding?

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna 

Dear God, can you do something about these followers of yours? Thanks.

What if this is more the result of Obama not doing an effective enough job of taking his message to the good people of Tennessee who fed this journalist? Should the non-god do something about his followers at an anti-Iraq war rally who can't locate Iraq on a map? This rhetoric is not the product of religious following. It's the product of being ill informed.

It's so sad to listen to a young person speak like such a f*tard while being so confident and eloquent.

Kids often parrot their parents. I found it refreshing that the child was so openly critical of Bush. Sure I wish there were more substance, but you should take some pleasure in knowing that this child will not follow someone contingent upon an (R) or (D). Someone this confident and eloquent (and opinionated) will hopefully maintain her zeal and learn both sides of these stories. You should hear the retarded nonsense coming from kids parroting their parents on global warming.

[tie]

Originally Posted by macintologist 

Does This Make George H.W. Bush Unpatriotic? - Politics on The Huffington Post

Lock him up and send him to Guantanamo right away! /Buckaroo

[Apemanblues]

Originally Posted by Warren Pease 

Here are some interesting views Rocketboom : Religion and Politics @ 1:30.

These views are Much more interesting:
God, Hats, Bibles, Anthems and other pointless Civic Customs

[Big Mac]

Originally Posted by ebuddy 

I found it refreshing that the child was so openly critical of Bush.

How is that refreshing when it's essentially the cultural norm?

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by Big Mac 

How is that refreshing when it's essentially the cultural norm?

I'd start by throwing in what I said in the first place; "... this child will not follow someone contingent upon an (R) or (D). Someone this confident and eloquent (and opinionated) will hopefully maintain her zeal and learn both sides of these stories."

I'd add that she seems aware that people can claim one thing, yet produce another. The girl seemed generally opposed to our action in Iraq as well as the mother, but then the grandmother (I guess I'm assuming, the older lady) claimed Bush was protecting Israel and was pleased. There's clearly some differences in opinion in that household all the way down to the youngster. This is refreshing.

[ghostdawg]

I wouldn't worry too much about Obama or Hillary...one thing is certain with USA, it still has a one track mind. I don't believe the good citizens, as a whole, will vote for a minority person as President. And women are included as a minority.

[ShortcutToMoncton]

Originally Posted by vmarks 

To which statement are you responding?

The singing of the National Anthem, every morning at 9am.

Why?

greg

[vmarks]

It's rousing. It stirs emotion in my heart. It gives me a few moments to reflect on my appreciation for America among the nations of the world.

I never tire of it.

[ShortcutToMoncton]

You mean you just sing it? You don't do it for work or anything like that? You just sing it because you love America so much?

greg

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by ShortcutToMoncton 

You mean you just sing it? You don't do it for work or anything like that? You just sing it because you love America so much?

greg

9 AM, incidentally, is also when he takes his shower.

[olePigeon]

Also, you hate America unless you can sing all four versus.

[Face Ache]

Originally Posted by ShortcutToMoncton 

You mean you just sing it? You don't do it for work or anything like that? You just sing it because you love America so much?

I wonder what the other people on the bus think.

[BRussell]

I wonder if vmarks puts his hand on his heart when he's home alone singing the national anthem.

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by BRussell 

I wonder if vmarks puts his hand on his heart when he's home alone singing the national anthem.

There's a thread on here someplace about morning rituals. Someone here does "The Terminator" in the morning. He crouches down and sings the Terminator theme while slowly standing up.

So instead of that, he does the national anthem.

[ShortcutToMoncton]

I'm trying hard to compute this information but failing miserably

[vmarks]

Originally Posted by Face Ache 

I wonder what the other people on the bus think.

Wouldn't know - I'm not riding the bus.

I work from home, so it's nothing to stop what I'm doing, and stand and sing.

A few years ago when I did not work from home, I did it in the car.

Originally Posted by BRussell

I wonder if he puts his hand over his heart..

Sir, you're not up on your etiquette. The hand over heart is not for the anthem, but instead for the American flag. Commonly, there's a flag in the vicinity when the anthem is sung in a place like a campaign rally, sporting event, or so on. In my house, I don't have a flag. I did have one outside my front door, but I took it down because it was getting weathered, and it wasn't dignified. I retired it with respect.

[ShortcutToMoncton]

Huh.

I'll have to think on this for a while.

[Atomic Rooster]

Originally Posted by vmarks 

Wouldn't know - I'm not riding the bus.

I work from home, so it's nothing to stop what I'm doing, and stand and sing.

A few years ago when I did not work from home, I did it in the car.



Sir, you're not up on your etiquette. The hand over heart is not for the anthem, but instead for the American flag. Commonly, there's a flag in the vicinity when the anthem is sung in a place like a campaign rally, sporting event, or so on. In my house, I don't have a flag. I did have one outside my front door, but I took it down because it was getting weathered, and it wasn't dignified. I retired it with respect.

Why is it that Jews make the best comedians?

[Dakar the Fourth]

Originally Posted by olePigeon 

Someone here does "The Terminator" in the morning. He crouches down and sings the Terminator theme while slowly standing up.

I have to say, I loled pretty hard to that.

Originally Posted by vmarks 

I work from home, so it's nothing to stop what I'm doing, and stand and sing.

A few years ago when I did not work from home, I did it in the car.

I have to say, that's pretty hardcore.

[osiris]

Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster 

Why is it that Jews make the best comedians?

Thousands of years of oppression had to pay off sometime.