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Veltliner · Nov 13, 2006, 04:35 AM

I currently have a 20" iMac G5 2.1 Ghz and the most demanding work I use it for is standard definition editing.

High Definition video is starting up, but there is still no burner widely available to burn hdv or avchd files.

I wonder when Apple will present its MacPros with a blu-ray burner.

That would be my soonest point of upgrade.

Big Mac · Nov 13, 2006, 04:47 AM

If Apple is officially going with Blu-Ray as the standard, then I'd expect an introduction at Macworld.

ender78 · Nov 13, 2006, 07:12 AM

I don't know if we're there yet. There are way too many people waiting on the sidelines for a
unified standard. Second, media prices are still more expensive than HardDrives [25GB disk is $14 which is approx $0.56/GB versus approx $0.30 to $0.34 for a 250/300GB Hard Drive]

OreoCookie · Nov 13, 2006, 07:54 AM

Apple is officially endorsing both standards, BlueRay and HD-DVD. However since there are no affordable burners on the market yet, I guess they'll support those standards as soon as Apple gets their hands on a sufficient amount of drives

jamil5454 · Nov 13, 2006, 12:49 PM

If you're itching to have Blu-ray in your Mac Pro you could always purchase one.

Tuoder · Nov 13, 2006, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by jamil5454

If you're itching to have Blu-ray in your Mac Pro you could always purchase one.

But are the proper drivers available? It would not be fun to spend $850 on a DVD burner.

gudrummer · Nov 13, 2006, 05:05 PM

Is it possible to buy HD-DVD readers or burners for Macs?I haven't seen one yet available...

jamil5454 · Nov 13, 2006, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Tuoder

But are the proper drivers available? It would not be fun to spend $850 on a DVD burner.

Not sure if they're there in OS X, but you could always use BootCamp ;-). Technically you're still using a Mac Pro...

mduell · Nov 13, 2006, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by gudrummer

Is it possible to buy HD-DVD readers or burners for Macs?I haven't seen one yet available...

HD-DVD reader for Macs

TailsToo · Nov 13, 2006, 07:17 PM

I wouldn't want one now - not until there is some degree of standardization. Blue-Ray could become the BetaMax of the 2000's.

Tuoder · Nov 13, 2006, 07:28 PM

Blu-Ray is going to be a viable format for computers soon. It doesn't really make a big deal if it becomes like the betamax if you use it for data storage and backups, which it will soon be very good for. Right now though, with internal burners starting at $750 from Sony, I'd wait a while.

zerock · Nov 13, 2006, 08:00 PM

yeah this is a backup's dream

gudrummer · Nov 13, 2006, 10:47 PM

Well,now i just need a software to run the HD-DVD movies...

goMac · Nov 14, 2006, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by Veltliner

I wonder when Apple will present its MacPros with a blu-ray burner.

According to my sources, when the high dev wars start to cool.

Veltliner · Nov 15, 2006, 02:36 AM

A blu-ray or an hd-dvd burner will be crucial for burning the content of hd video camcorders.

It looks pretty good for blu-ray, I think, as it has a larger capacity.

Also, the compression standard H.264 seems to be the same as that of AVCHD, an up and coming hd compression format.

What I wonder: will blu-ray and hd-dvd discs be sensitive to scratches - maybe even more so than sd dvds?

Mellon · Nov 16, 2006, 11:33 PM

I don't think bluray's gonna do anything, if you really wanna give sony some money....go buy one... but if your like me you tend to avoid the poo sony cranks out.

Tuoder · Nov 16, 2006, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by Veltliner

A blu-ray or an hd-dvd burner will be crucial for burning the content of hd video camcorders.

It looks pretty good for blu-ray, I think, as it has a larger capacity.

Also, the compression standard H.264 seems to be the same as that of AVCHD, an up and coming hd compression format.

What I wonder: will blu-ray and hd-dvd discs be sensitive to scratches - maybe even more so than sd dvds?

It seems like they will be scratch hell. Buffers with that kind of size would begin to get expensive to put into a BD/HD-DVD player.

Veltliner · Nov 17, 2006, 02:44 AM

I will just lean back and wait at this time.

The prices are much too high for both burner and media. I also don't want to play test rabbit for the electronic media industry.

I just wonder on what spot the decision between blu-ray and hd-dvd will turn.

Or if we are going to have two hd formats.

I think the main points are: price, reliabililty(of the burned disc and the reading of it and also that of the player), and finally the performance.

Performance: Has anybody had a chance to compare blu-ray and hd-dvd?

Tuoder · Nov 17, 2006, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by Veltliner

I will just lean back and wait at this time.

The prices are much too high for both burner and media. I also don't want to play test rabbit for the electronic media industry.

I just wonder on what spot the decision between blu-ray and hd-dvd will turn.

Or if we are going to have two hd formats.

I think the main points are: price, reliabililty(of the burned disc and the reading of it and also that of the player), and finally the performance.

Performance: Has anybody had a chance to compare blu-ray and hd-dvd?

AFAIK, both formats will hit a wall when they have reached the maximum rotation speed of the disc. Also, there is no writable HD-DVD format yet. It should be out before too long.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD-R

Also the performance is believed to be lower according to Wikipedia. We shall see how ti turns out.

mduell · Nov 19, 2006, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Tuoder

It seems like they will be scratch hell. Buffers with that kind of size would begin to get expensive to put into a BD/HD-DVD player.

Someone (3M I think) created a scratch-proof coating for optical disks... IIRC they demo'd it with one of the high def video disk standards.