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SnowmanX · May 18, 2001, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by Lord Kronos:
Eight, I think.

4 with 1H39(PB), 1 with 4F8, 2 with 4K46-4K60, 1 with 4K73, and none since.

Interesting the things we take record of.

Oh, well, I'll join in. PowerBook Firewire 400/320MB (Pismo):

Don't recall about PB, but a lot/often.

10.0.0-.2 ---> 5 explicit panics (all apparently USBAudio related), around 6 or 7 incidents of unresponsiveness whatsoever though pointer responded, 3 induced display blackouts simply by plugging iStick into USB port while asleep

10.0.3 ---> no panic, no lock up, 1 induced display black out (I couldn't resist)

Kind of a disappointed, but enjoying X. Wishing it would mature quickly to compete (Win2k uptime of a month, no crash).

snowman

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tmornini · May 18, 2001, 11:59 AM

I have not had any panics.

I had a few UI freezes in 10.0.0 and 10.0.1 but none since.

Considering how willing people are to constructively criticize
OS X in other respects, I'd say that this thread speaks of good
things in the stability department.

Few panics total, frequency reducing with each build, and most
USB related and therefore easier to locate and eradicate.

May 18, 2001, 01:27 PM

I had numerous in the public beta, during the installation process. Since Mar. 24th, I have had 4. One the next day, one about a week later, and two in the last two weeks. The first two I can't recreate or explain, but the two recent ones have come while transferring mp3 files from iTunes to my Rio 800 via the USB port on the left side of my keyboard.

osiris · May 18, 2001, 01:43 PM

I only had one kernal panic since the PB - and even then it was because my keyboard & mouse went dead during the final stages of updating to 10.0.2.

I was forced to do a hard boot by pressing the reset button, which brought up a kernal panic displaying "Type R for Restart.... You must restart you computer...." Only I couldn't type "R"!!!

Other than that, not one single crash on my G4 400 agp with 512mb of ram.

May 18, 2001, 01:53 PM

= None!

I've waited until 10.0.3 to install OS X. No problems on G3/400 w/ 256MB. I love Mac OS X. Apple came through BIGTIME!

The God of Wine · May 18, 2001, 02:31 PM

ZERO on a 450 Mhz Cube 128 MB ram.

I'd actually like to see one, anybody know of a way I can force one?

Dionysis

Lord Kronos · May 18, 2001, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by SnowmanX:
Interesting the things we take record of.
[...]

KP's are so rare that I remember each one of them

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whirk · May 18, 2001, 02:59 PM

NONE ZIP ZERO NADA

bada boom bada bing!

Ricky · May 18, 2001, 02:59 PM

The only one I had was after updating to 10.0.2, but that's the only one I've had.

iMac DV SE 400 MHz
256 MB RAM

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whirk · May 18, 2001, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by whirk:
NONE ZIP ZERO NADA

bada boom bada bing!

Oh thats on a PowerBook G4 500 [384/10gig]

Earth Mk. II · May 18, 2001, 04:06 PM

2 under the PUblic Beta, and none in 10.0.0, 10.0.1, 10.0.2, or 10.0.3

Dual G4 450, 192 MB RAM

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pahroza · May 18, 2001, 06:16 PM

I've had one panic with 10.0.3 (today), that happened after i tried to resume a screen session. I had none with 10.0.2. I had 2 with 10.0.1 (after resuming a screen session). And I had 3 or 4 more with 10.0, doing the same thing.

whirk · May 18, 2001, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by pahroza:
I've had one panic with 10.0.3 (today), that happened after i tried to resume a screen session. I had none with 10.0.2. I had 2 with 10.0.1 (after resuming a screen session). And I had 3 or 4 more with 10.0, doing the same thing.

Where did you get screen? I'd like to install it and was curious if there were any special instructions for OS X or if it compiles fine as it is? And where can I find the latest version?

Craig R. Arko · May 18, 2001, 06:54 PM

I can still make them happen at will by cycling the power on my (unsupported) Sony Spressa USB CD-RW drive. In all version through 10.0.3.

Nothing else seems to do it, though...

ryochiji · May 18, 2001, 07:08 PM

None on my Pismo 400, and I use OS X as my main OS. It's been extremely stable... I've had a couple of Spinning Rainbow of Death freezes that required force restarts, but that's about it.

Justin Belisle · May 18, 2001, 08:13 PM

On my iMac 333 I use OS X as my main OS. I've had 1 kernel panic when launching classic.

mollicat · May 18, 2001, 08:28 PM

No kernel panics here, at all, from Public Beta on up.
iBook 366 mhz, 320mb Ram.
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robotmarkVIII · May 18, 2001, 09:30 PM

Well, when I first installed OS X on my rev C iMac (tangerine) with 96 megs of ram, /6 gigs, i got panics to numerous to mention. instead of giving up, i reinstalled, with a strange partitioning scheme, that had been set up using the psidk utility under mac os 8.6...

well, that wasn't of any luck either, so i opted to use the appple drive etup app, and install w/ one big hfs+ partition, wiping out my rpevious mklinux and linuxowerpc parrtitions... that means i just used the default instal partition scheme..

since then (2 montsh), i've had only 1 kernel panic, which was related tpo my impatient use of the iDisk. I think the waeak point of os x is through the dvices and stuff...

sorry about all the typos, i'm just about to leave my room for coffee, and for some reason i don't want to sit down, and don'twant to look at the screen...okbrbbyethanksforbearingwiththishappyosxi ngthebestosinntheworld!!1

kennethmac2000 · May 18, 2001, 09:32 PM

More to the point, what is causing the kernel panics?

All mine have been caused by SharedIP.kext.

hypercool · May 18, 2001, 10:01 PM

None - I'm running it full time on a G4 thats running a server for NAT and files to a PBG3 Wallstreet on airport , a cube, and two PCs; it's also in constant use by 4 people for compiling Fortran, grabbing pictures from a digital camera, printing, browsing, music and burning CDs, and always has the distributed.net client running. has been up since the 24th, except for updates 10.0.1 .2 and .3 and when I was trying to get NAT to work.

X also runs full time on my Cube 450, which I believe had one panic: it was when I stepped on my power supply, which turned off everything connected to it; I think I saw white text, but it got unplugged too too soon to read it. I have OS X installed on this Wallstreet 250, which has also never had a panic (not to mention that I think the speed is reasonable!), but it doesn't run it full time because there aren't any Wavelan drivers yet.
Stability is my favorite feature of OSX, the only problems I've had included having to telnet in and kill the window manager a couple times.

NateMarg · May 18, 2001, 10:23 PM

Running on both iMac 400DV and iBook SE 366:

Public Beta: Zero
10.0.0: Zero
10.0.1: Zero
10.0.2: Zero
10.0.3: Three Kernal Panics (one on iBook; two on iMac)

all three were the result of trying to write to PC format ZIP disks (brand new). I never had a problem doing this in prior builds.

Gary Finley · May 19, 2001, 12:40 AM

Cube, 576MB RAM. 10.0, 10.0.1, 10.0.2, 10.0.3
Zero panics. I've never seen one.

Gary Finley · May 19, 2001, 12:42 AM

Cube, 576MB RAM. 10.0, 10.0.1, 10.0.2, 10.0.3
Zero panics. I've never seen one.

Apfhex · May 19, 2001, 12:46 AM

B&W G3 400Mhz, MacOS X 10.0.0 to 10.0.3.

Absolutetly zero kernal panics. I almost wish I'd have one just so I could see it...

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Norm1985 · May 20, 2001, 12:21 AM

So at least OS X is stable.

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wadesworld · May 20, 2001, 01:28 AM

Never, not one.

Wade

cla214 · May 21, 2001, 11:26 AM

one...

10.0.0 did not agree with my USB hub, and barfed on startup...

Since then, none at all:
11:19AM up 5 days, 14:34, 1 user, load averages: 0.11, 0.12, 0.17

kooBi · May 22, 2001, 02:58 AM

I've had one kernel panic (it's kernel, I'm sure) on 10.0.2

iBook SE 366/128MB/6GB etc.

v0id7 · May 22, 2001, 08:59 AM

0

otter · May 22, 2001, 10:12 PM

10.0 -> 2
10.01 -> 0
10.02 -> 1
10.03 -> 0 so far . . .

Art

SillyMonk · May 22, 2001, 11:28 PM

I just had a panic yesterday, my second one. I was trying to file share between two comuters on my internal network using Airport. I got the spinning wheel and blam, there it was.

the valdok · May 23, 2001, 01:02 AM

I had one, in 10.00
looks like apple is doing a nice job a fixing those silly bugs. =)

jeffhot · May 23, 2001, 01:09 AM

I haven't had any yet on either my iMac 233 or PBG3 500. Well that's a start I guess. Now some applications and speed please.

tie · May 23, 2001, 01:20 AM

None with the pb. I've had three with final, one when I had to force quit the Finder when it was accessing iDisk (this has happened other times, but now I'm smart enough just to hit the hard restart button instead of waiting for the kernel panic

). I've had two today, once when I tried to use Network Utility to scan my ports, and a second time when I was doing absolutely nothing! I've had too many unrecoverable crashes that weren't kernel panics to count.

tie · May 23, 2001, 01:41 AM

I just tallied the average in here, including Gorgonzola's 12 and someone else's twenty, but counting "numerous" or "too many to count" as 1. The average number of kernel panics, by machine, not user, of OS X 10.0 or later, is

1.627.

The mode is 0, of course. The standard deviation is 3.25, heavily skewed by the top three reportings of 20, 16, and 12 kernel panics.

Removing these leaves an adjusted average of 1.02 kernel panics, with a standard deviation of 1.27.

Craig R. Arko · May 23, 2001, 07:59 AM

Originally posted by tie:
I just tallied the average in here, including Gorgonzola's 12 and someone else's twenty, but counting "numerous" or "too many to count" as 1. The average number of kernel panics, by machine, not user, of OS X 10.0 or later, is

1.627.

The mode is 0, of course. The standard deviation is 3.25, heavily skewed by the top three reportings of 20, 16, and 12 kernel panics.

Removing these leaves an adjusted average of 1.02 kernel panics, with a standard deviation of 1.27.

I'd be awfully curious to know how many of these are NOT hardware related? Mine (with the USB CD-RW) are always hardware so I know what not to do. The only thing that is causing panics in 10.0.3 better be 3rd party hardware, since it's being preloaded on iMacs now. Sorry, Beige G3's don't figure into that; I know you folks are still having problems with Apple hardware support.

MusicMac · May 23, 2001, 09:46 AM

Public Beta: 1
v.10.0-10.0.3: Goose Egg

Chet Ript · May 23, 2001, 10:36 AM

ZERO.

tie · May 23, 2001, 12:12 PM

My impression is that the people reporting large numbers of kernel panics usually had some hardware issue. Most of the smaller reportings weren't to do with hardware. Of my three, none had anything to do with hardware.

Richard Clark · May 23, 2001, 04:00 PM

None

10
10.0.1
10.0.2
10.0.3

G3/266
192 MB RAM
6 GB HD

Luckily no Kernal Crashes.

macaddled · May 23, 2001, 04:43 PM

2, one in PB and one in 4k78, using Word in Classic

as2 · May 24, 2001, 11:48 AM

Two, once with PB and once with 10.0.0. 10.0.1 update seemd to fix it though.

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tyris · May 24, 2001, 03:04 PM

2 kernal panics in the public beta 2E14, none since then. One was when i stuck one of those hybrid cds in my cd drive.

I'm on a rev. a beige g3 (with rev.c rom) with a 466mhz g3, and 96mb of ram.

graphics84 · May 24, 2001, 04:05 PM

PwoerBook G3 300
10.0.0 - 10.0.3 (until IE 5.1.1) = 0
after IE 5.1.1 = 3

weird huh?

May 31, 2001, 12:43 PM

I've had atleast a dozen, plus numerous modme disconnects.

G4/500 DP 512Mb
10.0.3

I can't even use OS X if I need to get any work done.

- BS

May 31, 2001, 01:10 PM

1 in 10.0.0 trying to play Quake 3 in Classic.

Since then nothing, zip, none....

G4 400, 128mb of RAM when the panic occured - now much more

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drjoe · May 31, 2001, 01:24 PM

10.0.1 one; can't remember circumstances
10.0.2 none
10.0.2 none
10.0.3 three(!) all involving d/l from idisk , cancelling the d/l and down she goes. First i was surprised, second annoyed, third was on purpose. seems to be a problem there :-)

233 beige stock processor
45 gig IBM IDE
WD 4 gig IDE
192 meg ram
6 meg video ram

noname PCI/USB
Initio MIles board with upgraded drivers and 4 seagate ultrawides awaiting softraid sw. The drives work fine as does the scsi zip but support for the rest of the SCSI devices is abominable.

fairly lo-tech setup but stable and usable.

drjoe

asxless · May 31, 2001, 01:39 PM

TiBook 500/512/30 - I have had dozens of identical kernel panics when awakening my TiBook but read on...

I have two OS X/Classic partitions on my TiBook They are as identical as I can make them. One has been "rock solid" since I created it three weeks ago. The other one (created just after the 10.0.1 update and updated through 10.0.3 when released) will still frequently kernel panic when I awaken my TiBook if AppleTalk is "active" in Classic. Note both partitions are running on the exact same hardware and I am running the same (non-beta) software, doing the same activities. I've had O kernel panics in the one partition and literally dozens in the other partition.

asxless in iLand