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Salty · Dec 22, 2009, 10:49 PM

Hey all I'm looking for some good science fiction, or in general just REALLY good TV to watch, preferably with a couple seasons.

I've already watched all the star treks when I was younger (And no I don't feel like rewatching and hearing "Reverse the polarity on the deflector" another 300 times in my life)

I'm all caught up on Doctor Who (Well everything since they restarted btw if you're a geek and you haven't watched the revival of Doctor Who what on earth are you waiting for!?)
I've done all of Torchwood
Buffy
Angel
Babylon 5
Jeremiah
I'm all caught up on Dollhouse
Firefly
Far Scape
Jericho
the 4400 (if you haven't watched it, don't bother)

I also loved Pushing Daisies,
Watched the beginning of Heroes and I'm pretty well all caught up on that but I don't know if I want to keep watching it's gotten pretty damned bad.

Any suggestions of honestly good shows would be great it's winter and there's only so much to do in Manitoba

starman · Dec 22, 2009, 10:51 PM

Galactica

Rumor · Dec 22, 2009, 11:04 PM

The X Files.

besson3c · 11:20 PM

Easy, the new Galactica. I'd be surprised if you didn't like it at least as much as the others.

Laminar · Dec 22, 2009, 11:17 PM

I was a holdout, but I finally deleted my Hulu subscription to Heroes. Absolutely no direction, too many side-stories, twists, and sub-plots to be even remotely interesting or engaging anymore.

Buckaroo · Dec 22, 2009, 11:21 PM

Just stay away from the latest Star Trek movie. The special effects were great, but in one movie they destroyed 90% of the previous Star Trek timeline. The only portion of Star Trek that survived is most of Star Trek Enterprise. All of TOS, ST Next Generation, Voyager, Deepspace Nine and all ST movies are wiped out.

I know, I'm exaggerating, but I hate what they did.

downinflames68 · Dec 22, 2009, 11:25 PM

Lost.

Gankdawg · Dec 22, 2009, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Buckaroo

Just stay away from the latest Star Trek movie. The special effects were great, but in one movie they destroyed 90% of the previous Star Trek timeline. The only portion of Star Trek that survived is most of Star Trek Enterprise. All of TOS, ST Next Generation, Voyager, Deepspace Nine and all ST movies are wiped out.

I know, I'm exaggerating, but I hate what they did.

Finally someone agrees with me.

turtle777 · Dec 22, 2009, 11:39 PM

Since nobody mentioned it yet.

Not SciFi, but still good TV:

Always Sunny In Philadelphia
Arrested Development
Curb Your Enthusiasm (you either love it or hate it)

-t

subego · Dec 22, 2009, 11:42 PM

Since Buffy or Angel aren't sci-fi either, I'll recommend Supernatural.

Excellent show, and the two leads are dreamy.

Salty · Dec 23, 2009, 12:34 AM

Battlestar was good for the first two seasons but I'm done that too

Eug · Dec 23, 2009, 12:41 AM

My favourite sci-fi movie of the year was District 9. It came out today on DVD and Blu-ray.

Originally Posted by Buckaroo

Just stay away from the latest Star Trek movie. The special effects were great, but in one movie they destroyed 90% of the previous Star Trek timeline. The only portion of Star Trek that survived is most of Star Trek Enterprise. All of TOS, ST Next Generation, Voyager, Deepspace Nine and all ST movies are wiped out.

Of course, that was the entire point of the movie.

Doofy · Dec 23, 2009, 12:44 AM

Stargate SG1.
Stargate Atlantis.
Andromeda.
Monk (is good for comedy).

Salty · Dec 23, 2009, 12:53 AM

One of my roomies was watching and Supernatural seemed interesting... it seems really badly written though... I do confess the guy who plays Dean though... I keep hoping they find an excuse to have his character wear as little clothing as possible.

Cold Warrior · Dec 23, 2009, 12:56 AM

Fringe

Shaddim · Dec 23, 2009, 01:19 AM

Another vote for Supernatural. Though I wish they had hired me for their occult lore, it can be rather painful sometimes.

Eug · Dec 23, 2009, 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Andromeda

Heh. Trance used to work in the local bike and snowboard shop when she wasn't doing TV. (This was before Andromeda.) All the sales guys there seemed to have a total crush on her, as they knew her from TV.

It was difficult finding a coherent sales guy in the store when she was around.

Demonhood · Dec 23, 2009, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by Cold Warrior

Fringe

Seconded.

Rumor · Dec 23, 2009, 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by Cold Warrior

Fringe

Damn, that was the show I was trying to think of. Sadly, rumors are around that it is going to be cancelled.

olePigeon · Dec 23, 2009, 02:38 AM

Here are two more SciFis canceled before their time.

Threshold
Odyssey 5

Threshold was supposed to run for 3 seasons, almost like a long miniseries. Like Firefly, it got a ton of awards, tons of acclaim, but the network f**ked it up. Odyssey 5 was stuck on an odd time slot on HBO and never got viewers. Another great show.

Here's a not-yet-canceled show. Take that secret government warehouse from Indiana Jones (the one with all those relics and artifacts), add a little steampunk, then make an entire TV show around it. It's fun.

Warehouse 13

reader50 · Dec 23, 2009, 02:41 AM

Not SF, but good storytelling.

Veronica Mars

PB2K · Dec 23, 2009, 05:26 AM

Earth 2 ! it has all the christian references you need

ctt1wbw · Dec 23, 2009, 07:13 AM

Sorry, none of these shows beats Space1999.

ghporter · Dec 23, 2009, 09:16 AM

Not SF but fun: Castle.

mdc · Dec 23, 2009, 09:23 AM

Since you mentioned Pushing Daisies, you should try Wonderfalls which was by the same creator and also stars Lee Pace. It's not Sci-Fi, but very enjoyable.

andi*pandi · Dec 23, 2009, 10:57 AM

If you've finished all the new Who, go back and watch the old Who. That should keep you busy for a while.

No one has yet mentioned Dead Like Me, not really scifi, but you could like.

Also Reaper was fun. Cancelled, but fun.

exca1ibur · Dec 23, 2009, 12:46 PM

Sanctuary
Stargate Universe
Lost
Eureka

sek929 · Dec 23, 2009, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Demonhood

Seconded.

Thirded.

I was very skeptical at first, but it reminds me of The X-Files version 2.0, even the intro is exactly like The X-Files.

finboy · Dec 23, 2009, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by Buckaroo

Just stay away from the latest Star Trek movie. The special effects were great, but in one movie they destroyed 90% of the previous Star Trek timeline. The only portion of Star Trek that survived is most of Star Trek Enterprise. All of TOS, ST Next Generation, Voyager, Deepspace Nine and all ST movies are wiped out.

I know, I'm exaggerating, but I hate what they did.

That's probably a bit much, but I agree -- they wiped out a lot. Why? Because they had to, the franchise is/was dead. Star Trek needed a reboot. This coming from someone who's had meaningful discussions with both James Doohan and Leonard Nimoy back in the old days. They needed something to carry the IDEA of Star Trek forward, not the worn out original. They could only warp around the sun so many times (as Salty pointed out). People can continue to enjoy & rediscover TOS and TNG (so much of the other stuff is formulaic crap anyway) and the rest if they want to. And the IDEA of Star Trek can move forward.

Leaving the Okudas to "consult" on how to make TNG that-much-better in a new better release. Or maybe they can figure out how to sexxy-up the Animated Series.

It's a fun flick, don't miss it.

ON TOPIC:
Don't waste time with Jericho, you'll just be disappointed. Went down that path this time last year, felt hornswoggled.

finboy · Dec 23, 2009, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by ghporter

Not SF but fun: Castle.

I really agree with that, but I didn't want to break the topic. Yeah, Castle is fun to watch. Can't wait to get back to the end of Season 1 this weekend. For that matter, Bones isn't bad.

I always though Dr. Reichs was a cutie in person, but she looks nothing like that chick on the show.

jokell82 · Dec 23, 2009, 02:11 PM

It's a cartoon aimed at kids, but it has one of the best sci-fi stories written in a long time: Avatar the Last Airbender.

subego · Dec 23, 2009, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by mdc

you should try Wonderfalls which was by the same creator and also stars Lee Pace. It's not Sci-Fi, but very enjoyable.

I thought this show verged on (if not attaining) brilliance.

Setup: a woman who lives in a trailer park works at a gift shop where inanimate representations of animals start talking to her.

Originally Posted by reader50

Veronica Mars

Yes.

Chuckit · Dec 23, 2009, 02:33 PM

Lost is the best sci-fi currently on TV if you ask me. And since we're counting vampire fantasy series like Buffy and Angel, I'm going to say True Blood.

Also, if you liked Pushing Daisies, I totally second Wonderfalls, the previous series from the same creator. It's about a 24-year-old burnout working at a souvenir shop who suddenly hears inanimate objects telling her to do things. It was canceled after like four episodes, but it was really good. I just rewatched all 13 episodes and it was even better than I remembered. (Incidentally, Lee Pace from Pushing Daisies is the main character's brother, and Jewel Staite from Firefly has a major role in several episodes.)

exca1ibur · Dec 23, 2009, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Lost is the best sci-fi currently on TV if you ask me. And since we're counting vampire fantasy series like Buffy and Angel, I'm going to say True Blood.

Damn, good call on True Blood.

Buckaroo · Dec 23, 2009, 03:23 PM

There's a sort of Sci-Fi that I didn't think I'd like, but I loved it and that is Tin Man.

I'm sure many people hated it, but I thought it was fantastic. I need to see the first 20 minutes since I started watching when she first found the tin man.

olePigeon · Dec 23, 2009, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by jokell82

It's a cartoon aimed at kids, but it has one of the best sci-fi stories written in a long time: Avatar the Last Airbender.

The movie is going to be directed by M. Night Shyamalan.

That show is going down in flames. It'll be more spectacular than the Hindenburg. I feel so sorry for the show's fans.

jokell82 · Dec 23, 2009, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

The movie is going to be directed by M. Night Shyamalan.

That show is going down in flames. It'll be more spectacular than the Hindenburg. I feel so sorry for the show's fans.

The show is over, but I'm assuming you mean the movie. The trailer looked promising. And considering it's his first movie that is based on other material, I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt.

Chuckit · Dec 23, 2009, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by jokell82

The show is over, but I'm assuming you mean the movie. The trailer looked promising. And considering it's his first movie that is based on other material, I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt.

It would also be his first movie since Unbreakable that didn't devolve into absolute crap by the end. But I suspect olePigeon just means the movie will ruin the show for people.

olePigeon · Dec 24, 2009, 05:20 AM

He'll make it suck. I guarantee it.

ajprice · Dec 24, 2009, 08:43 AM

Another one with vampires, Being Human. The second series is on soon in the UK, no idea if its been on BBC America or DVD over there. Its getting the American remake treatment though. Its about three people who share a flat together, a vampire, a werewolf and a ghost, trying to fit into society as humans.

Chuckit · Dec 24, 2009, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by ajprice

Another one with vampires, Being Human. The second series is on soon in the UK, no idea if its been on BBC America or DVD over there. Its getting the American remake treatment though. Its about three people who share a flat together, a vampire, a werewolf and a ghost, trying to fit into society as humans.

Did you like the show much, though? I liked Lenora Crichlow, but the series as a whole felt a little blah. The only episode that stands out in my memory is where they mistake the vampire for a pedophile.

Wiskedjak · Dec 24, 2009, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Buckaroo

Just stay away from the latest Star Trek movie. The special effects were great, but in one movie they destroyed 90% of the previous Star Trek timeline. The only portion of Star Trek that survived is most of Star Trek Enterprise. All of TOS, ST Next Generation, Voyager, Deepspace Nine and all ST movies are wiped out.

And, why is that so bad?

ghporter · Dec 24, 2009, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by Buckaroo

Just stay away from the latest Star Trek movie. The special effects were great, but in one movie they destroyed 90% of the previous Star Trek timeline. The only portion of Star Trek that survived is most of Star Trek Enterprise. All of TOS, ST Next Generation, Voyager, Deepspace Nine and all ST movies are wiped out.

Originally Posted by Wiskedjak

And, why is that so bad?

The point was to"wipe out" all of that and give writers a fresh canvas to work with. That was painfully obvious from the beginning of the film-the universe we start out in is definitely not the one ST fans were used to. So a lot of ground that has already been covered won't come up at all (a huge complaint about Enterprise was that they were writing back story but that it wasn't "right" - meaning that it wasn't what a lot of people wanted to see), and a lot of things that happened in "the future" would necessarily be very different and thus fodder for fresh stories.

It wasn't "stuck in low budget network TV" Star Trek. Which today is a Very Good Thing.

Wiskedjak · Dec 25, 2009, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by ghporter

The point was to"wipe out" all of that and give writers a fresh canvas to work with.

And, it's not like the previous history no longer exists. Events in the previous history led to the events that resulted in this new, alternate history. The episodes still exist and they're still entertaining.

Sage · Dec 25, 2009, 03:16 PM

Also not SciFi, but I think appeals to SciFi types: The Mentalist. Season 2 has been particularly good so far.

Speaking of Doctor Who, I don’t want Tennant to die!

Although I’m really looking forward to Moffat being head writer.

Buckaroo · Dec 25, 2009, 03:18 PM

What they couldn't come up with a new Sci-Fi series? Something totally new?
(In reference to Star Trek 2009 moive)

ajprice · 03:32 PM

Yeah I do like the Mentalist too. I've just watched the first of the Doctor Who two parter, the big finish is on New Years Day. Its a good one. I'm not spoiling anything here, but there is one scene with the Doctor and Wilf in a cafe, and it is brilliant

.

Edit: Yesterday I also saw an animated Doctor Who on the childrens BBC channel, and it was pretty good too. It was based around 50's USA, around an Area 51 type place. The Doctor and his 'temporary companion' were stuck in an underground lab, and it seemed there was no way to get out, Doctor, not worried at all, says its all fine ant they'll get out easily. The woman's confused and then the Doctor says
"Oh hang on, this is the 50's, so you haven't seen Alien, or Die Hard, come to think of it, Aliens, and Die Hard 2, and Die Hard 3.... anyway, its OK, we can get out through the ventilation shafts!"

I liked the references, and wondered why this was tucked away on the childrens channel. The animation was half way between 3D and cartoon, kind of like the Team Fortress 2 game.

Salty · Dec 26, 2009, 02:11 AM

I've already seen all of Trueblood... which for the record is basically vampire porn... I mainly watch it for Jason hehehe... (not that I'm... into... vampires...)

I'll check out wonderfalls that sounds fun to watch.

And Avatar the last airbender was great... oh and I've already watched all of Dexter... damn... I watch a lot of TV since I'm not in college anymore...

ajprice · Dec 26, 2009, 02:23 PM

Found a bit more about the Doctor Who animation, its a one off, not a series, and its called Dreamland. originally shown as a series of shorts, it recently got put together and shown as one, which is what I saw the other day.

Dreamland (Doctor Who) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

besson3c · Dec 26, 2009, 02:27 PM

Will some of you guys be watching Caprica in January? Salty?