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Jan 23, 2005, 08:58 PM
 
I'm looking to go the Euro route with my future bachelor pad, and my first step is to get a bed. I'm into the minimalist style, but I'm having a hard time finding good sites with lots of examples. I could go to Barnes&Noble to browse mags, but it's too late on a Sunday for that. Post any good links you got for that.

Also, I've decided to build my own bed after seeing the price tag on some of these platform beds; $3000 for 4-6 pieces of finished wood nailed together? Hell No.

I'm going for something like this:

or this (even though this is a dog bed):


shouldn't be too hard: A few 2x6s and some wood for a headboard. 4x4 blocks to support the frame and some slats to support the bed. And if I make it myself, I can reinforce it so I won't have any problems with it breaking from excessive force.

I'll probably use a dark cherry and depending on the quality of the wood, I may take it to a finisher to get it done. Should cost less than $400 (not including my time).

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Jan 23, 2005, 09:16 PM
 
The true minimalist would just place the mattress on the floor. Although, I really like that second one.
     
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Jan 23, 2005, 09:30 PM
 
Yeah, I always had the same feelings. A friend of mine made something like that himself. Not that hard. Anyway, the second bed is basically what I have and I got it (twin size) at Ikea for $99. If you want you could stain it yourself to match that color.
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Jan 23, 2005, 09:53 PM
 
the only difficult part really is cutting the hinges for the corners. you wouldnt even need nails if you do that part correctly. just glue.
     
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Jan 23, 2005, 10:38 PM
 
Good carpentry = no nails.

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Jan 23, 2005, 10:51 PM
 
Originally posted by Mastrap:
Good carpentry = no nails.

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Screws = better.
     
rozwado1  (op)
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Jan 23, 2005, 11:22 PM
 
I'm gonna screw the hell out of it with corner blocks. I wouldn't want it falling apart on me in a dire situation.

I'd do the IKEA, but i'm a fan of real wood.
     
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Jan 23, 2005, 11:28 PM
 
good dovetailing anyone?
     
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Jan 23, 2005, 11:33 PM
 
Copy this one...

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Jan 23, 2005, 11:57 PM
 
Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
The true minimalist would just place the mattress on the floor. Although, I really like that second one.
no a true minimalist would dig a hole in the floor so the bed looks like its part of the floor, and not above it.
     
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Jan 24, 2005, 12:07 AM
 
Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Copy this one...
haha, that's mine!

but you should be careful.... the "sides" usually end up bruising my gf's shins (cause she's sometimes kinda ditzy).
     
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Jan 24, 2005, 03:48 AM
 
Originally posted by Macfreak7:
haha, that's mine!

but you should be careful.... the "sides" usually end up bruising my gf's shins (cause she's sometimes kinda ditzy).
Haha, two of my ex-girlfriends had this bed (IKEA name: Malm) too - damn this thing can cause some pain!!
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Jan 24, 2005, 07:33 AM
 
Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Copy this one...

The problem with this design is that the headboard and footboard are too tall compared to the sides. If there was any kind of rocking, this whole bed would sway and stress those joints.

After doing furniture repair for 5 years, the only bed I found that didn't rock and squeak was a sleigh bed with 12" sides that had a matching 12" metal 90 bracket bolted to the head/footboard behind it.

I think a square box design with dovetailing (first pic) would prevent this.
( Last edited by tooki; Jan 24, 2005 at 12:44 PM. )
     
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Jan 24, 2005, 07:34 AM
 
Originally posted by fireside:
no a true minimalist would dig a hole in the floor so the bed looks like its part of the floor, and not above it.
:thumbsup"
     
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Jan 24, 2005, 09:55 AM
 
It's important to remember that glue is stronger then nails and doesn't make a "squeaking" sound usually.

The ends are a dovetail. They are VERY strong and if built properly only need glue (no pins, no nails, and no screws)

http://www.clug.org/presentations/pov/dovetail.jpg
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Depending upon how you build it, you could simply paint it and it would look just as nice. The trick is getting the bed to match the bedding... without having it match too much... and bringing the room together.
( Last edited by tooki; Jan 24, 2005 at 12:43 PM. )
     
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Jan 24, 2005, 10:16 AM
 
Originally posted by rozwado1:
The problem with this design is that the headboard and footboard are too tall compared to the sides. If there was any kind of rocking, this whole bed would sway and stress those joints.

After doing furniture repair for 5 years, the only bed I found that didn't rock and squeak was a sleigh bed with 12" sides that had a matching 12" metal 90 bracket bolted to the head/footboard behind it.

I think a square box design with dovetailing (first pic) would prevent this.

I've had this bed for 2 years and found it to be the most sturdy. Even with 2 people on it it doesn't move in the slightest as the end boards are so large and it has a steal beam running down the middle.
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Jan 24, 2005, 11:31 AM
 
I'm a fan the the natural wood look my self. Both of the above beds look nice.

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Jan 24, 2005, 12:01 PM
 
Originally posted by fireside:
no a true minimalist would dig a hole in the floor so the bed looks like its part of the floor, and not above it.
     
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Jan 24, 2005, 12:22 PM
 
Just remember that a bed isn't a 'Plank with legs and a mattress on the top'.
Half the 'comfort' in a bed, as a posed to a mattress on the floor, is in the bendy strips of wood that the mattress sits on.
     
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Jan 24, 2005, 12:36 PM
 
glue and biscuits...fantastic joints. best tool i've purchased in a few years.

got the porter-cable plate jointer:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...&s=hi&n=228013
     
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Jan 24, 2005, 07:26 PM
 
Originally posted by fireside:
no a true minimalist would dig a hole in the floor so the bed looks like its part of the floor, and not above it.

- and it would have a recessed sliding cover so that during the day the minimalist could sit crosslegged in an empty room eating rice, with a single japanese salted plum.
     
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Jan 24, 2005, 08:31 PM
 
Does it get much more minimalist than inflatable?

     
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Jan 24, 2005, 08:38 PM
 
yeah, you could just sleep on the floor.
     
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Jan 24, 2005, 09:32 PM
 
I want to get this bed frame to match my Powerbook and Cinema Display.

     
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Jan 25, 2005, 11:55 AM
 
Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Copy this one...

This bed is proving to be pretty popular around here. I agree with what everyone else has said. Nice balance between price and style. Very solid, but watch those edges!
     
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Jan 25, 2005, 01:39 PM
 
Add me to the list of satisfied iKea (lol, I'm so used to typing lower-case 'i' followed by capitalized whatever with iPod iBook etc, that Ikea has now become iKea)..anyway, add me to the list of satisfied iKea Malm queen sized bed frame in birch owners!

I actually left this bed when I moved to NYC and I miss it..I used an air mattress in it. It fit perfectly in the frame and provided a wonderful nights' sleep. I'm hoping to get the same frame in a double-size (being NYC, and all) sometime soon.

Keep in mind though, that mother is INCREDIBLY HEAVY, and definitely a 2-3 person job to assemble.
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Jan 25, 2005, 06:26 PM
 
Originally posted by Josh Reid:
Keep in mind though, that mother is INCREDIBLY HEAVY...
i'm not sure why this makes me think of Norman Bates...
     
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Jan 25, 2005, 08:26 PM
 
True minimalists don't need beds.
     
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Jan 25, 2005, 09:05 PM
 
Originally posted by Cubeoid:
True minimalists don't need beds.
I know. I'm such a wuss.
     
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Jan 25, 2005, 10:20 PM
 
Originally posted by rozwado1:
The problem with this design is that the headboard and footboard are too tall compared to the sides. If there was any kind of rocking, this whole bed would sway and stress those joints.
Judging by your "HEY LADIES!" thread, rocking will not be an issue. Dust, maybe...
     
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Jan 25, 2005, 10:23 PM
 
Originally posted by Face Ache:
Judging by your "HEY LADIES!" thread, rocking will not be an issue. Dust, maybe...
And a PS of me in his sig is a fast track to bannination. But he is clueless. I find it funny. I am vain enough. His fanboy PS sk1lz are making me blush.
     
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Jan 25, 2005, 11:11 PM
 
Or there's always something like this... (you might need to fight the Sim for it)
     
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Jan 26, 2005, 05:35 PM
 
Originally posted by Josh Reid:
Keep in mind though, that mother is INCREDIBLY HEAVY, and definitely a 2-3 person job to assemble.
Sure you can assemble it alone. I did.

I think it's time we started pressing for a dedicated Ikea "Malm in birch" bed forum.
     
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Jan 26, 2005, 05:39 PM
 
Here is my Malm is use :

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Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
Here is my Malm is use :

[img]http://homepage.mac.com/bitfly/.Pictures/Misc/bed.jpg[img]
Is that a child's room? Lota little kid toys in there.
     
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Jan 26, 2005, 09:16 PM
 
Originally posted by Kilbey:
Is that a child's room? Lota little kid toys in there.
You wanna come over and play?
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Jan 26, 2005, 09:51 PM
 
Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
You wanna come over and play?
Is that your room? Are you saying you're a child? I mean, I got that impression from what you have said on here, but I wasn't sure.

You should have left your toys in their boxes. They are worth more that way. When you grow up you might be able to sell them on eBay (if it's still around then) and pay for jr. college or some tech. school or something.

I hope you find a person to play with your toys.
     
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Jan 26, 2005, 10:24 PM
 
Originally posted by Kilbey:
Is that your room? Are you saying you're a child? I mean, I got that impression from what you have said on here, but I wasn't sure.

You should have left your toys in their boxes. They are worth more that way. When you grow up you might be able to sell them on eBay (if it's still around then) and pay for jr. college or some tech. school or something.

I hope you find a person to play with your toys.

Derailing a thread for a personal attack should be bannination.




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Jan 26, 2005, 10:33 PM
 
Originally posted by Kilbey:
Is that your room? Are you saying you're a child? I mean, I got that impression from what you have said on here, but I wasn't sure.

You should have left your toys in their boxes. They are worth more that way. When you grow up you might be able to sell them on eBay (if it's still around then) and pay for jr. college or some tech. school or something.

I hope you find a person to play with your toys.
You are in such competition with me aren't you.

Do you feel thinner with more hair when you try to put me down?
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Jan 26, 2005, 11:39 PM
 
Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
You are in such competition with me aren't you.

Do you feel thinner with more hair when you try to put me down?
Dude, I'm just having a little bit 'o fun with you!

I didn't know you felt insecure about playing with toys. I'll drop it now.
     
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Jan 26, 2005, 11:40 PM
 
Originally posted by kmkkid:
Derailing a thread for a personal attack should be bannination.

Chris
You'd have been banned a long time ago you know.

You sig pic is perfect. Jesus loves everyone. Very biblical.
     
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Jan 26, 2005, 11:59 PM
 
Originally posted by Kilbey:
You'd have been banned a long time ago you know.

You sig pic is perfect. Jesus loves everyone. Very biblical.
I don't derail a legitamate thread for the sole purpose of making a personal attack.



Anyways - back on topic, I like that malm bed everyone seems to own.


P.S. Don't worry SWG, I have the same gizmo "toy"


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Jan 27, 2005, 12:06 AM
 
Originally posted by Kilbey:
You'd have been banned a long time ago you know.

You sig pic is perfect. Jesus loves everyone. Very biblical.
It be more accurate if it said "God hates fags" right?
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Jan 27, 2005, 12:07 AM
 
Originally posted by kmkkid:
I dont derail a legitamate thread for the sole purpose of making a personal attack.
I think you have. And I think it was an attack on me.

Back on track: I think the ikea crap looks cheap.

To go with a minimalist style the bed frame should not be seen. A simple platform that is slightly smaller than the mattresses is a good clean look. You can even add some storage into it. It would be cheap to build your self.
     
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Jan 27, 2005, 12:15 AM
 
Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
It be more accurate if it said "God hates fags" right?
From your stand point maybe,

I was being completely honest. I truly believe what I said and stand up for my beliefs.

Your obsession with projecting beliefs you think I have is unhealthy.
     
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Enough already. Get back on topic please.
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