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Jul 12, 2018, 10:11 AM
 
So other than clock speed, what advantages do a 6-core i9 have over a 6-core i7?
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Jul 12, 2018, 03:51 PM
 
Nothing. The i5/i7/i9 has always been about marketing.

You can look up the exact CPUs on ark.intel.com if you’re curious.
     
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Jul 15, 2018, 12:08 PM
 
Moderately impressed with the new lineup. The new processors and GPUs are ok as the updated third generation keyboard (but I think that a thin silicon film does not make a new generation), but the new True Tone display is good. I use it on my iPad and it works great. If it has a 15” touchbar-less option, I might buy one. But I remain on the sidelines.
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Jul 15, 2018, 02:01 PM
 
I like everything but the price. I'm hearing good things about the SSDs.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Jul 15, 2018, 03:15 PM
 
I think the 13” with Touchbar is the star of the new lineup. Quadcore and a quite decent GPU is really powerful for that small footprint.
The new Mac Pro has up to 30 MB of cache inside the processor itself. That's more than the HD in my first Mac. Somehow I'm still running out of space.
     
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Jul 15, 2018, 10:58 PM
 
I wish they’d show the non-touchbar models similar love.
     
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Jul 16, 2018, 06:39 AM
 
Non-Touchbar is there for the price point, not because it makes any sense as a product.
     
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Jul 16, 2018, 04:48 PM
 
Originally Posted by Thorzdad View Post
I wish they’d show the non-touchbar models similar love.
Intel hasn’t released any new CPUs to go in it (15W CPU with Iris Plus graphics).

My hope is that Apple decides to step down to Iris 620 and pass the savings on to us. Intel charges through the nose for those chips, and they’re power-limited to the point that the graphics are severely hamstrung. Even better if they can find a cheaper display as well. That should be enough to get the price down to $999 and kill of the old Airs. Since Apple is doing something to replace the old Airs and we haven’t seen any leaked cases, I hope that this is the plan.
The new Mac Pro has up to 30 MB of cache inside the processor itself. That's more than the HD in my first Mac. Somehow I'm still running out of space.
     
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Jul 16, 2018, 06:15 PM
 
The Airs are the only notebooks with a decent port selection today.

Some months ago, a friend asked me to find deals on Macs. His little girl was going to school, and needed a Mac notebook. The low-end MBP had few ports (all USB-C) and too high a price tag. The MacBook had only one port, and a USB-C at that.

The Air was the only one he considered. All the others were too crippled. If the Air wasn't around, I expect that little girl would have gone to school with a Dell or something similar. As it is, she got a decent notebook.
     
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Jul 16, 2018, 06:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by reader50 View Post
The Airs are the only notebooks with a decent port selection today.

Some months ago, a friend asked me to find deals on Macs. His little girl was going to school, and needed a Mac notebook. The low-end MBP had few ports (all USB-C) and too high a price tag.
That is, quite simply, flat-out wrong.

They are Thunderbolt 3 ports. Calling them "crippled" is like calling the monster Swiss army knife "crippled" when your needs are a nail file and a toothpick, with the occasional knife.

I'm with you on the entry-level MBP price and the single USB-C on the MacBook.
     
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Jul 16, 2018, 07:02 PM
 
We can argue all we like about ports, but I got the clear impression. He wouldn't buy a notebook without a standard USB-A port built in. If I couldn't find a Mac notebook with USB-A, he would have gone elsewhere.
     
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We can argue all we like about ports, but I got the clear impression. He wouldn't buy a notebook without a standard USB-A port built in. If I couldn't find a Mac notebook with USB-A, he would have gone elsewhere.
Yes, that much is clear.

But anyone who calls a Thunderbolt 3 port "crippled" over a USB-A port (or pretty much any other port, for that matter), is just ill-informed and wrong.
     
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Jul 17, 2018, 08:55 PM
 
Well, it is crippled in the sense that it can't work with your brand new iPhone X right out of the box...
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Jul 17, 2018, 09:22 PM
 
I just wish that, with the purchase of a new Macbook, Pro or otherwise, Apple would include a USB-A adapter for each USB-C or Thunderbolt 3 port on the machine. I mean, >$2000 and Apple still won't ship a few $10 adapters in the box? (This was a bigger problem two years ago than it is today, but still...)
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Originally Posted by mindwaves View Post
Well, it is crippled in the sense that it can't work with your brand new iPhone X right out of the box...
Who hooks up their phone to the computer with a cable!?
     
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Originally Posted by And.reg View Post
I just wish that, with the purchase of a new Macbook, Pro or otherwise, Apple would include a USB-A adapter for each USB-C or Thunderbolt 3 port on the machine. I mean, >$2000 and Apple still won't ship a few $10 adapters in the box? (This was a bigger problem two years ago than it is today, but still...)
Four USB-A adapters? Why? People obviously only have three ports plus power. And obviously, Ethernet is far more important. Er no, HDMI, of course. Wait, no - this is a pro machine. They need to include an SD reader.

Or maybe, you just budget a $15 third-party Adapter that does the three things you happen to need, and it’s not Apple’s problem.
     
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Er no, HDMI, of course. Wait, no - this is a pro machine. They need to include an SD reader.
They did through 2015, and I used every one of those ports. Convenient, I know...
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Yesterday, 09:44 AM
 
I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again: put the USB-A ports on the charger. I have a charger like that, and it works great.

I also think that the fact that parts of the commentariat have focused on the SD card slot as the main thing missing is why we still have only USB-C. Apple can see how many people are using that slot in its Macs and probably figures that if that is the one people are missing, we’re good.
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Yesterday, 02:26 PM
 
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They did through 2015, and I used every one of those ports. Convenient, I know...
I have a USB hub that I keep permanently attached to the stationary hard drives at the desk at home, and a Thunderbolt Dock that does the HDMI for an external monitor, plus USB and FireWire for the external keyboard and other drives and interface that I keep permanently attached in the studio.

On the road, I have a tiny cheap usb-C to USB-A Adapter and a Lightning camera USB adapter with me. And the power supply, which I also use for iPhone and iPad (when I don’t just charge them off the ’Book’s ports).
That’s it.

I’ve used an SD card slot ONCE in the last decade. I’m perfectly happy not carrying one around with me on the machine everywhere I go.
     
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Yesterday, 03:34 PM
 
Well bravo then.

Going back to my original question: Who would truly benefit from having the i9, given some of the thermal issues?

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx8J125s4cg

Like, really what market is that configuration targeting?
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