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Nov 27, 2007, 03:16 PM
 
Got my copy today -- anyone else have it / seen it? Its very interesting!

Helvetica is a feature-length independent film about typography, graphic design and global visual culture. It looks at the proliferation of one typeface (which is celebrating its 50th birthday this year) as part of a larger conversation about the way type affects our lives. Helvetica is currently screening at film festivals, museums, design conferences, and cinemas worldwide, followed by the DVD release November 20th.
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Nov 27, 2007, 03:31 PM
 
neat I think I'll pick it up. I have a love/hate relationship with fonts.
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Nov 27, 2007, 03:33 PM
 
I secretly like Helvetica.

Not heard of the movie.
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Nov 27, 2007, 03:37 PM
 
Sounds like a nerdy kind of thing I'd enjoy.
     
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Nov 27, 2007, 03:49 PM
 
I'm a big Arial fan, myself.
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Nov 27, 2007, 03:50 PM
 
Originally Posted by shifuimam View Post
I'm a big Arial fan, myself.
*gasp*

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That sounds like a movie I’d adore
     
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Nov 27, 2007, 03:54 PM
 
Yep, Arial + Monoco, Nadeem, Hei, Harrington & Snell Roundhand for fun. Helvetica can just go to hell. ha!
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Nov 27, 2007, 03:57 PM
 
I had not heard of the movie. I love typography, so I'll get myself a copy. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
     
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Nov 27, 2007, 04:08 PM
 
I saw a screening at a local design school--very good.
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Nov 27, 2007, 04:09 PM
 
This is far more geeky than hard drive refrigerator magnets. No need for alcohol - I think this would put me to sleep before I could even get drunk.
     
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Nov 27, 2007, 04:10 PM
 
These damn people copied my idea!

I'm making a movie about Sand.

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Nov 27, 2007, 04:11 PM
 
I'd love to make a movie about the infection of Papyrus in the design world.
     
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Nov 27, 2007, 04:13 PM
 
Actually, I like the new default fonts with Windows Vista a LOT. Calibri and Corbel are really easy on the eyes.
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Nov 27, 2007, 04:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
These damn people copied my idea!

I'm making a movie about Sand.
You do that and I swear I'll kill you.

Unless it's a snuff film, and Sand is the victim.
     
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Nov 27, 2007, 04:35 PM
 
Consolas is a great terminal font too.

Its a great movie btw. Lots of amusing Windows bashing too
You'd be amazed at who uses Helvetica. In fact, you'd be surprised who doesn't use it!

I found a part discussing Marlboro Cigarettes particularly interesting. Anyone feel like recreating this photo, but using the Helvetica font face as the Marlboro logo? Dont have photoshop on home computer.
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Nov 27, 2007, 04:41 PM
 
Like this?
     
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Nov 27, 2007, 04:43 PM
 
I was lucky enough to get the special edition box set, too. photos
comes with:


this made me chuckle:


ooh signed:


and this is just cool:
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Nov 27, 2007, 04:48 PM
 
Nice type.
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Nov 27, 2007, 04:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by Peter View Post
Dont have photoshop on home computer.
Too good to steal?
     
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Nov 27, 2007, 05:00 PM
 
Originally Posted by Peter View Post
I was lucky enough to get the special edition box set, too. photos
comes with:
WTF? This is a movie about typography, and they mistake a dash for a hyphen in the special edition box set contents themselves?

Nice metal type, though.
     
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Originally Posted by Dakarʒ View Post
Too good to steal?
Or not willing to sink down to Gimp?
     
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Nov 27, 2007, 05:03 PM
 
Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
Or not willing to sink down to Gimp?
That's a great statement when taken out of context.
     
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Nov 27, 2007, 05:08 PM
 
Crap! They showed this at CPH : DOX just over a week ago. Why didn’t I know about it then?

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Nov 27, 2007, 05:12 PM
 
The Gimp crippled my PowerBook.
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Nov 27, 2007, 05:37 PM
 
ooh. sounds interesting.

I'd be interested in watching a film where papyrus and sand duel to the death, only to have the winner be eaten by a lion.

Cooper Black can be the lion.

Then the lion can get the thumbsup from Emperor Univers.
     
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Nov 27, 2007, 05:40 PM
 
Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
These damn people copied my idea!

I'm making a movie about Sand.
I hate sand.
     
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Nov 27, 2007, 05:46 PM
 
I take it it's no longer hip to diss Comic Sans?
     
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Nov 27, 2007, 06:20 PM
 
Like Helvetica? Wear it with pride.
     
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Originally Posted by BlueSky View Post
I take it it's no longer hip to diss Comic Sans?
Dissing Comic Sans never goes out of style.

(Side note: I had to seriously explain to one of the girls in my web design group why using Comic Sans for the main font on our project web site was not a good idea)
     
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Originally Posted by BlueSky View Post
I take it it's no longer hip to diss Comic Sans?
Nah. Sand is the new Comic Sans.

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Nov 27, 2007, 10:18 PM
 
I used to use Helvetica Neue for everything until Apple started using it for everything. They copy me. That looks like an interesting doc, maybe I'll pick it up.
     
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Nov 28, 2007, 01:48 AM
 
Originally Posted by shifuimam View Post
I'm a big Arial fan, myself.
The Scourge of Arial
Helvetica vs. Arial

Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
Cooper Black can be the lion.
Veer: Ideas: Behind The Typeface


I love that picture of hot type! Seeing an old Linotype machine in action is a real treat. But cold type is better.
     
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Nov 28, 2007, 08:11 AM
 
Actually, this is how my desktop looks…

     
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great wallpaper
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Nov 28, 2007, 09:47 AM
 
Do people still hate frutiger?

     
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Nov 28, 2007, 09:52 AM
 
Originally Posted by zro View Post
It is just a font...as long as it's readable in print and screen form, I'm happy.

Although it does amuse me how seriously people take the "competition" between Helvetica and Arial...had Microsoft wanted to pay the royalites, they would have included Helvetica. Instead, they made their own. Usually when a company makes its own whatever (codec, product, application, etc.) to avoid paying royalties to someone, it's considered a good thing (brings more options into the mix)....for some reason this is seen as a typeface travesty.
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Nov 28, 2007, 10:06 AM
 
Arial isn't a pretty font. Helvetica is very nice. Classic.

Simple as that.

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Nov 28, 2007, 10:10 AM
 
I've loved fonts since I was a kid. I was interested in type when I read about Egyptian Hieroglyphics in 5th grade. In 6th grade there was this book about computers which had a computer typeface and for some stupid reason, I copied it into my notebook. In college I used to take books about typefaces out of the library. I've since become a self-proclaimed font whore.

Some of my faves:

Friz Quadrata:



Futura:



Swiss 721:



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Bank Gothic:



Handel Gothic:



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Nov 28, 2007, 10:14 AM
 
To me, Bank Gothic will forever be the font that the on-screen text in GoldenEye was listed in.

I also enjoy Swiss 911 and its less bold counterparts.
     
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Nov 28, 2007, 10:21 AM
 
Well, I can't find the limited edition of the movie anywhere. Is there an online store that has it?

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Nov 28, 2007, 10:27 AM
 
The game, that is.
     
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Originally Posted by Dakarʒ View Post
To me, Bank Gothic will forever be the font that the on-screen text in GoldenEye was listed in.
Good call on that. Besides Guitar Hero, Goldeneye is the only video game I'm good at. I can kick anyone's ass.
     
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Nov 28, 2007, 10:33 AM
 
No one will play me in GoldenEye.
     
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Nov 28, 2007, 10:48 AM
 
I've found I'm incredibly partial to American Typewriter.
     
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Arno, Dax, and Eidetic FTW!

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Originally Posted by Dakarʒ View Post
No one will play me in GoldenEye.
I will. My N64 is sitting in my basement at home. I'm also pretty good at Blitz 2000.
     
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Nov 28, 2007, 12:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by voodoo View Post
Arial isn't a pretty font. Helvetica is very nice. Classic.

Simple as that.

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They look remarkably similar from a distance.

And I am indeed one of the font-obsessed. I have thousands stored in archives on my computer.

I've just never been so obsessed as to lose sleep over the Arial/Helvetica battle. I've used both, and it's just not a big enough difference to warrant worrying about it, or bitching that MS uses Arial (which is being replaced, anyhow).
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Nov 28, 2007, 12:55 PM
 
it's a cheap knockoff vs the original kind of question. There are 50 billion helvetica knockoffs out there, enough that it can make you sick of helvetica itself... it's not helvetica's fault. dammit.
     
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Nov 28, 2007, 12:57 PM
 
They look remarkably similar from a distance.
When printed, yes. Not on screen.

And from a distance, Garamond and Times look remarkably similar, too. So do a golden retriever and a spotted hyaena, but only one is likely to try to kill you.
     
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Times and Garamond have enough noticable differences to know which is which.

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