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Zimphire · May 15, 2005, 10:47 PM

Since I really got out of themeing well before Panther came out, I really have no clue when it comes to editing the brushed resource in the Extras.rsrc.

I knew how to edit it in the iTunes application to the way I want it, but that doesn't produce the same results in the Extras.

I basically just want the SAME look, minus the texture like so:

Anyone have any clue as to what I am supposed to paste into the Extras resource to get the same effect?

When I tried to do the same thing to the Extras as I did with iTunes, the window just came out white.

Or is this something that requires ShapeShifter?

llee · May 15, 2005, 11:43 PM

If I'm not mistaken, a full color metal window texture can be faithfully reproduced in Safari in Panther, but the Finder displays it with very strict color limitations (only a certain number of levels of gray). iTunes, as you've pointed out, has its own set of elements in Panther. In Tiger it appears that rather than giving color to the Finder metal window texture, it has been taken away from Safari. I haven't themed the applications, and I don't remember right off hand whether iTunes still retains its own independent metal window texture in Tiger or not.

BTW, as a theming old-timer, you might be interested in the fact that I've updated Pillowtalk-Sky to version 3 for Tiger:

http://lonestar.utsa.edu/llee/res/themes.html

Some of my tutorial stuff (which, incidentally, I haven't had time to update for Tiger yet) may shed a little more light on that issue. Anyway, ShapeShifter does, I believe, actually provide full color for the metal window texture wherever it's displayed. That really makes for some quite spectacular window elements.

.saNNic. · 12:47 AM

Why don't you just use Themepark and adjust everything to your liking and export to .dlta and extract the extras.rsrc and swap.

In Themepark...... Add theme>GlobalElements>MetalWindow>Texture......... Export the texture (not the maask) into PS and drop opacity to Zero and then use TP to retrieve from PS...... for the look that you want. This will affect ALL metal windows. Excluding apps of course, since you'll only be using the extracted rsrc.

No SS used.....

I used Themechanger though...... OS 10.4

Orson · May 16, 2005, 05:50 AM

Looks very nice man, can you make a tiger mod with smooth metal for release?

Zimphire · May 16, 2005, 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by .saNNic.

Why don't you just use Themepark and adjust everything to your liking and export to .dlta and extract the extras.rsrc and swap.

In Themepark...... Add theme>GlobalElements>MetalWindow>Texture......... Export the texture (not the maask) into PS and drop opacity to Zero and then use TP to retrieve from PS...... for the look that you want. This will affect ALL metal windows. Excluding apps of course, since you'll only be using the extracted rsrc.

No SS used.....

I used Themechanger though...... OS 10.4

Thanx, will do.

eyecandy · May 16, 2005, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Zimphire

how do you get rid of the metal textur in itunes. as i know, there is no extras.rsrc. i cleaned my tiger from metal and pinstripe, but i did not found a way to manipulate itunes yet ...

.saNNic. · May 16, 2005, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by eyecandy

how do you get rid of the metal textur in itunes. as i know, there is no extras.rsrc. i cleaned my tiger from metal and pinstripe, but i did not found a way to manipulate itunes yet ...

iTunes.app>Show Package Contents>Resources>iTunes.rsrc

Open iTunes.rsrc in TP and find Window Background......... change the Texture to solid white and save.

eyecandy · May 16, 2005, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by .saNNic.

iTunes.app>Show Package Contents>Resources>iTunes.rsrc

Open iTunes.rsrc in TP and find Window Background......... change the Texture to solid white and save.

Thanks

Zimphire · May 16, 2005, 07:16 PM

w00t, no more brushed metal.

Now everything looks like the side of a G5 tower.

I like the smooth gradient look, but disliked the brushed texture.

:dragonflypro: · May 16, 2005, 10:44 PM

wrong forum. my bad

Zimphire · May 16, 2005, 11:18 PM

The only problem is now, the DVD app and the calculator app both show brushed, but I have no idea where the resource is.

MacMan4000 · May 17, 2005, 06:00 PM

will this work for you Zim?

I can't figure out the resource for it either, so I edited the .nib file to remove the texture. If you want me too I will explain it in detail., but you probably already know what I'm talking about.

[edit]
The same can be done with the DVD player.

Zimphire · May 17, 2005, 06:56 PM

Yeah, I know how to do that with the dev tools.

babyjenk5 · May 18, 2005, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by .saNNic.

iTunes.app>Show Package Contents>Resources>iTunes.rsrc

Open iTunes.rsrc in TP and find Window Background......... change the Texture to solid white and save.

I can't find Window Background when I open iTunes.rsrc with ThemePark. What's the ID#?

.saNNic. · May 18, 2005, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by babyjenk5

I can't find Window Background when I open iTunes.rsrc with ThemePark. What's the ID#?

Sorry..... It's not labeled.

Rsrc ID# 1024

Zimphire · May 18, 2005, 07:09 PM

Now that I go look back, the calculator's brushed resources are gone.

But the DVD player still has them.

Zimphire · May 18, 2005, 07:29 PM

A bit rough, I gotta go back and polish it. But still.

eyecandy · May 18, 2005, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by Zimphire

A bit rough, I gotta go back and polish it. But still.

nice work. how was it done?

Zimphire · May 18, 2005, 09:43 PM

There is a pict image with a alpha channel.

Just edited it in Photoshop

eyecandy · May 18, 2005, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Zimphire

There is a pict image with a alpha channel.

Just edited it in Photoshop

Do you know the id/name and where it is placed?

Zimphire · May 19, 2005, 03:19 AM

It's not in a resource.

The MAIN pic is here. There are others though in the same folder

Contents/Resources/Art/DVDHorControllerBackground.pct

themarvelous3 · May 19, 2005, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by .saNNic.

Why don't you just use Themepark and adjust everything to your liking and export to .dlta and extract the extras.rsrc and swap.

In Themepark...... Add theme>GlobalElements>MetalWindow>Texture......... Export the texture (not the maask) into PS and drop opacity to Zero and then use TP to retrieve from PS...... for the look that you want. This will affect ALL metal windows. Excluding apps of course, since you'll only be using the extracted rsrc.

No SS used.....

I used Themechanger though...... OS 10.4

where is the Extras.rsrc located? the one i need to replace i mean.

also, can someone step me through removing the brush from Safari?

themarvelous3 · May 19, 2005, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by themarvelous3

where is the Extras.rsrc located? the one i need to replace i mean.

also, can someone step me through removing the brush from Safari?

never mind...replacing this changed them both : )

/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/Resources/Extras.rsrc

hope that was the right one!

themarvelous3 · May 19, 2005, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Zimphire

It's not in a resource.

The MAIN pic is here. There are others though in the same folder

Contents/Resources/Art/DVDHorControllerBackground.pct

any way you can upload that replacement controller Pict. for download?

Zimphire · May 19, 2005, 09:54 PM

When I finish it, yeah. It needs a bit more polish.

themarvelous3 · May 19, 2005, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Zimphire

When I finish it, yeah. It needs a bit more polish.

sweet, thanks!

delete · May 20, 2005, 03:40 PM

Sorry if I'm thick, but I'm not a Themer but hate metal and want to get rid of it. So will swapping the extras.rsrc change both the Finder AND apps? If so would someone be so kind as to post the extras.rsrc I would need?

Thanks a lot.

Zimphire · May 22, 2005, 10:51 AM

Here is the final non-brushed DVD player

And you can download the modified graphic files here.

Zimphire · May 22, 2005, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by delete

Sorry if I'm thick, but I'm not a Themer but hate metal and want to get rid of it.

Do you want to get rid of the metal, or the brushed metal?

So will swapping the extras.rsrc change both the Finder AND apps? If so would someone be so kind as to post the extras.rsrc I would need?

Thanks a lot.

Finder and MOST apps yes. And you can modify your own extras resource to do just that as pointed out above.

The one I did was from a hacked Smooth Stripes.

And I don't have Max's approval on giving it out.

delete · 04:02 PM

The Brushed Metal is what I'm trying to get rid of. Or more specifically the brushed texture on the metal. I've never played with TP so this should be interesting!

Quick TP question. Does everything I change and save in TP (labels/buttons etc.) all get included in the one extras.rsrc file? I've always wanted to change those fruity label colors!
Also can I just take that extras.rsrc file and manually replace it with the one in the path explained in the earlier post (after backing up the current one)? Do I need to use Theme Changer?

Thanks.

themarvelous3 · May 22, 2005, 04:38 PM

anyone know if the scroll bar color is in the Extras or not? if not where? and if so what's it called?

delete · May 23, 2005, 12:16 AM

OK so I made changes to the extras.rsrc file. Do I have to log in as root to be able to swap the file? I apparently can only read the file as an admistrator.

themarvelous3 · May 23, 2005, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by delete

OK so I made changes to the extras.rsrc file. Do I have to log in as root to be able to swap the file? I apparently can only read the file as an admistrator.

you have to "Get Info" on the folder that the Extras.rsrc file is in and under Ownership & Permissions change the owner to you instead of System.

i just left mine that way but i'm not sure if you're supposed to change it back everytime or not.

delete · 01:39 AM

Yeah I tried that but it still says I can don't have privileges when I try to replace it.