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Mar 11, 2007, 12:02 AM
 
If time is money, what is money?



any guesses?

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Mar 11, 2007, 12:14 AM
 
Invaluable?
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 12:16 AM
 
Money is money.
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 12:41 AM
 
it's a gas
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Mar 11, 2007, 01:06 AM
 
Grab that cash with both hands and make a dash.
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 01:14 AM
 
Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
Grab that cash with both hands and make a dash.
New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think Ill buy me a football team.
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 01:35 AM
 
Money is time, work, and luck all rolled into one.
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 01:58 AM
 
Originally Posted by brassplayersrock View Post
If time is money, what is money?



any guesses?

-a
Ask George Lakoff, author of Metaphors We Live By.
One should never stop striving for clarity of thought and precision of expression.
I would prefer my humanity sullied with the tarnish of science rather than the gloss of religion.
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 02:03 AM
 
Originally Posted by dav View Post
it's a gas
Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
Grab that cash with both hands and make a dash.
Originally Posted by voiceofra View Post
New car, caviar, four star daydream,
Think Ill buy me a football team.
That's so weird...I have that song stuck in my head now from watching The Italian Job earlier, and what do you know, now it's cemented more firmly!
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 02:05 AM
 
The root of all evil?

I love evil and roots and berries.
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 02:07 AM
 
Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster View Post
The root of all evil?

I love evil or roots.
That would make Time = Evil if the law of syllogism is applicable here.
One should never stop striving for clarity of thought and precision of expression.
I would prefer my humanity sullied with the tarnish of science rather than the gloss of religion.
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 02:11 AM
 
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Mar 11, 2007, 05:32 AM
 
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Mar 11, 2007, 06:25 AM
 
Is the root of all evil today.
I'm in a high fidelity first class travelling set
And I think I'll need a Lear Jet.

(Railroader: I believe the line is "Grab that cash with both hands and make a stash." Apologies. </Floyd nerd>)
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 06:36 AM
 
Originally Posted by brassplayersrock View Post
If time is money, what is money?



any guesses?
I seem to remember the answer being "wasted", but it's been a while (middle school, I think).
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 07:05 AM
 
Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster View Post
The root of all evil?

I love evil and roots and berries.
Money is not the root of all evil.
The love of money is the root of all evil
Common mistake.
IANAC, btw.
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 10:51 AM
 
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Mar 11, 2007, 11:22 AM
 


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Mar 11, 2007, 11:27 AM
 
Originally Posted by brassplayersrock View Post
If time is money, what is money?
Time.
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 11:40 AM
 
Originally Posted by voiceofra View Post
Money is not the root of all evil.
The love of money is the root of all evil
Common mistake.
IANAC, btw.
Originally Posted by rjenkinson View Post


-r.
Oops.
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Mar 11, 2007, 12:28 PM
 
Originally Posted by Gossamer View Post
Oops.
Gossamer, I keep clicking on your damn sig.
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 01:06 PM
 
Originally Posted by BlueSky View Post
Time.
my thoughts exactly

A nice math logic:
if a = 1 then 1 = a

but then again you could say afterwards that a = 2, and it could be true that 1 = 2
etc, etc

then, money could be "time", or could be "wasted"
(time = wasted), etc etc...
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 03:28 PM
 
Originally Posted by Madrag View Post
my thoughts exactly

A nice math logic:
if a = 1 then 1 = a

That's the Definition of Quality (if I remember algerbra correctly)


Originally Posted by Madrag View Post
but then again you could say afterwards that a = 2,
No, you can't. A variable can't have more than one value at a time, by definition.

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Mar 11, 2007, 03:34 PM
 
Money is better than peanuts...

Homer Simpson: Awww ... 20 dollars!? I wanted a peanut.
Homer's brain: 20 dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer Simpson: Explain how.
Homer's brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services.
Homer Simpson: Woo hoo!

It'll be much easier if you just comply.
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 03:53 PM
 
Let a and b be equal non-zero quantities
a = b
Multiply through by a
a2 = ab
Subtract b2
a2 − b2 = ab − b2
Factor both sides
(a − b)(a + b) = b(a − b)
Divide out (a − b)
a + b = b
Observing that a = b
b + b = b
Combine like terms on the left
2b = b
Divide by the non-zero b
2 = 1
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 05:59 PM
 
opportunity cost.
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 06:08 PM
 
Originally Posted by Gossamer View Post
Let a and b be equal non-zero quantities
(a − b)(a + b) = b(a − b)
Divide out (a − b)
a + b = b
Unfortunately you have divided by 0 (a = b, so a-b = 0), which is illegal.
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 06:17 PM
 
Originally Posted by Ghoser777 View Post
Unfortunately you have divided by 0 (a = b, so a-b = 0), which is illegal.
Bingo.
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 08:31 PM
 
Originally Posted by Ganesha View Post
relative
correct.
     
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Mar 11, 2007, 08:36 PM
 
Almost invariably, those math "proofs" of things that are obviously not true involve division by zero. I can't remember what they were now, but I've seen a couple of others that tried similar things.
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Mar 11, 2007, 11:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by Ghoser777 View Post
Unfortunately you have divided by 0 (a = b, so a-b = 0), which is illegal.
Dammit- beat me to it

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Mar 11, 2007, 11:29 PM
 
and to answer the question:

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock View Post
If time is money, what is money?
If you don't know what money is, pull up a chair and let me have some of your time.

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Originally Posted by brassplayersrock View Post
If time is money, what is money?
If time is money, then money is everything, because time is all we have.
     
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Mar 12, 2007, 09:15 AM
 
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Mar 12, 2007, 10:43 AM
 
Originally Posted by Face Ache View Post
If time is money, then money is everything, because time is all we have.
we have a winner
     
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Please tell me that spoiler isn't your signature.
You're loving it too? At least mine fit regulations.
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Mar 12, 2007, 12:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by Miniryu View Post
No, you can't. A variable can't have more than one value at a time, by definition.
you're right, I was meaning to show the distributive property that can be found in the multiplication...
I still like my twisted logic

I found that a better example would be:

a = c
b = c

so b = a

then if
c = b
and b is still = c

so a = b

twisted or not?
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Originally Posted by Madrag View Post
you're right, I was meaning to show the distributive property that can be found in the multiplication...
I still like my twisted logic

I found that a better example would be:

a = c
b = c

so b = a

then if
c = b
and b is still = c

so a = b

twisted or not?
Nerd.
     
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Mar 12, 2007, 02:18 PM
 
Money is any marketable good or token used by a society as a store of value, a medium of exchange, or a unit of account.

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Originally Posted by Gossamer View Post
Nerd.
I take it as a compliment!
after all, it was given by the zero divider™
     
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Originally Posted by Madrag View Post
a = c
b = c
so b = a
It depends on what you mean by A, B and C; for example, if A is an ostrich, C two legs, and B a man, we get:

An ostrich has two legs.
A man has two legs.
Therefore, a man is an ostrich.


     
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Originally Posted by Tiresias View Post
An ostrich has two legs.
A man has two legs.
Therefore, a man is an ostrich.
I said it was twisted, didn't I?

Oh! and don' forget that an ostrich is a man
     
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Originally Posted by Madrag View Post
I take it as a compliment!
after all, it was given by the zero divider™
True

Originally Posted by Tiresias View Post
It depends on what you mean by A, B and C; for example, if A is an ostrich, C two legs, and B a man, we get:

An ostrich has two legs.
A man has two legs.
Therefore, a man is an ostrich.


The equals sign means "is" not "has." You don't say if x=3 that x has 3, you say that x IS 3. So you can't say that an ostrich IS two legs.
     
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Originally Posted by Gossamer View Post
The equals sign means "is" not "has." You don't say if x=3 that x has 3, you say that x IS 3. So you can't say that an ostrich IS two legs.
An ostrich is bipedal.
A man is bipedal.
Therefore, a man is an ostrich.
     
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Originally Posted by Madrag View Post
I take it as a compliment!
after all, it was given by the zero divider™
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Maybe I should have said "Is defined by." There's more to a man than being bipedal.
     
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Originally Posted by Gossamer View Post
Maybe I should have said "Is defined by." There's more to a man than being bipedal.
such as also being an ostrich?
     
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Originally Posted by Gossamer View Post
You don't say if x=3 that x has 3, you say that x IS 3. So you can't say that an ostrich IS two legs.
but you've raised an interesting point here!
you could say that x has 3 in its universe (although not in the context of the "=" sign), so it could be true that a man has an ostrich
     
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Originally Posted by Gossamer View Post
Maybe I should have said "Is defined by." There's more to a man than being bipedal.
<sigh>

What you are trying to say is
ostrich = biped
man = biped.
therfore,
man = ostrich


... BUT that doesn't work, because "=" reffers to the value of something, not categorical descriptors. Sorry to be such a killjoy- I've studied math/physics for too long to "get" the joke.

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