Welcome to the MacNN Forums.

freudling · Oct 26, 2011, 01:31 PM

Well, who knows. But this phone looks great. Yes, it doesn't have a front facing camera and only a single core... but the test is how it performs real world. Camera shutter speed, web browsing, etc.

I know some people will come on here and troll and flame... but people are going kinda crazy over this phone... that there MIGHT finally be a solid alternative to the iPhone.

You can criticize WP7 all you want... the secret to success is not a zillion devices... it's one, perfect, awesome device. The N9, or shall I say, Lumia, might be it.

The thing that is really good about WP7 is that it does perform better than Android on my tests. The Web browsing, scrolling, etc... MS really knows what it's doing here with hardware acceleration. Android has just ended up being a total train wreck.

Nokia Lumia 800 hands-on (video) -- Engadget

imitchellg5 · Oct 26, 2011, 01:37 PM

It's the best chance for Windows Phone 7 so far, but it's such an uphill battle for Microsoft that at this point they'll be lucky to ever go beyond a niche.

freudling · Oct 26, 2011, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by imitchellg5

It's the best chance for Windows Phone 7 so far, but it's such an uphill battle for Microsoft that at this point they'll be lucky to ever go beyond a niche.

The thing that separates MS from pretty much everybody else out there: they have money to burn. They can afford to throw money at this for years and not go away.

SierraDragon · 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by imitchellg5

It's the best chance for Windows Phone 7 so far, but it's such an uphill battle for Microsoft that at this point they'll be lucky to ever go beyond a niche.

Agreed. Three years late and mostly copying. However I hope they at least gain some share because competition is good.

Originally Posted by freudling

The thing that separates MS from pretty much everybody else out there: they have money to burn. They can afford to throw money at this for years and not go away.

Also agreed. However their churn-the-OSs and churn-Office and make-deals-from-strength business model has run its course, so where future money to burn comes from is in serious doubt after Win7 is fully populated. MS has lost about a third of shareholder value in just 4 years.

WP7 success is very, very important to MS.

Spheric Harlot · Oct 26, 2011, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by SierraDragon

Agreed. Three years late and mostly copying.

I disagree.

Windows Phone may fail at a number of things, including the market space (I'm hoping it won't), but it *is* original.

SSharon · Oct 26, 2011, 01:50 PM

Not a bad looking phone, but why does the video say 3.9" screen when the text says 3.7"?

Spheric Harlot · Oct 26, 2011, 02:04 PM

It's a CRT — the discrepancy is viewable area vs. tube size.

SierraDragon · Oct 26, 2011, 02:10 PM

freudling · Oct 26, 2011, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by SSharon

Not a bad looking phone, but why does the video say 3.9" screen when the text says 3.7"?

To err is human...

SierraDragon · Oct 26, 2011, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot

Windows Phone may fail at a number of things, including the market space (I'm hoping it won't), but it *is* original.

Seems to me it mostly just does what the competition introduced 3 years ago. Sure some effects are varied (tiles) and yes the underlying OS bones are new for MS and solid, but what folks see and get is just another (IMO good) smart phone doing what smart phones do - but delivered 3 years late.

I just hope they achieve enough share to keep some competition going.

-Allen

Waragainstsleep · Oct 26, 2011, 02:35 PM

Can't help feeling its like someone mated an iPhone with an iPod Mini, aesthetics-wise. Not that thats a bad thing. It definitely has an Apple-like quality to its appearance.

Shaddim · Oct 27, 2011, 04:49 AM

I'm getting addicted to using Siri, and nothing else will do.

Spheric Harlot · Oct 27, 2011, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by SierraDragon

Seems to me it mostly just does what the competition introduced 3 years ago.

The interface is unlike anything else, AFAICS.

cgc · Oct 27, 2011, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by freudling

The thing that separates MS from pretty much everybody else out there: they have money to burn. They can afford to throw money at this for years and not go away.

MS has a lot of money but they pulled the plug on the Zune which wasn't a bad music player...

Waragainstsleep · Oct 27, 2011, 01:15 PM

But it was brown.

freudling · Oct 27, 2011, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by SierraDragon

Seems to me it mostly just does what the competition introduced 3 years ago. Sure some effects are varied (tiles) and yes the underlying OS bones are new for MS and solid, but what folks see and get is just another (IMO good) smart phone doing what smart phones do - but delivered 3 years late.

I just hope they achieve enough share to keep some competition going.

-Allen

The point is that it's a unique interface: not just a grid of cartoon icons. I like iOS, but I don't want only 1 option in the world, as much as I like Apple. This Lumina with WP7 is compelling on the surface I haven't used it yet with WP7 so I'll reserve judgement until then. But I have tried the Meego version of the N9 and it was sick. I loved it. And I hate pretty much all the other tech out there besides Apple because most of it is junk. But this is one of the few things non-Apple I like.

freudling · Oct 27, 2011, 02:51 PM

Wow...

I can't believe the Apple fanboy David Pogue is praising WP7 7.5. Either he is getting paid a lot of money by Microsoft to write this or he really does like it.

Windows Phone 7.5 is gorgeous, classy, satisfying, fast and coherent. The design is intelligent, clean and uncluttered. Never in a million years would you guess that it came from the same company that cooked up the bloated spaghetti that is Windows and Office.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/27/te...-art.html?_r=1

angelmb · Oct 27, 2011, 03:20 PM

I can't believe the Apple fanboy David Pogue is praising WP7 7.5

Is Pogue a Fanboy ?

freudling · Oct 27, 2011, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by angelmb

Is Pogue a Fanboy ?

Ya BS. Just because you take a critical paragraph out of review examples doesn't mean you're showing that you're not a fanboy. He's known as a fanboy. The fact that he's tried to defend himself against being labelled a fanboy speaks volumes.

angelmb · Oct 28, 2011, 05:35 AM

Why should anyone give any credit to the myths spouted by people which best work is to ~~google~~ bing 'david pogue', find out he has wrote a bunch of books on Apple software and hardware, did work for some mac magazine, et cetera enough to justify themselves to themselves from saying that nonsense he is such a tool stuff.?

polendo · Oct 31, 2011, 06:00 PM

WP7 is pretty good. Its definetly a different breed of OS. For once it feels really simple.. even sometimes more than iOS. It´s also pretty responsive and the marketplace even though is smaller compared to the App Store and Android´s it has enough apps to do just about everything. And hardware wise, Nokia phones at least to me are really top notch. They are very well built. To me its right up there to iPhones and Sony.. everything else is on a second tier.