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robotmarkVIII · Jul 9, 2002, 03:49 PM

I remember a scam that involved purchasing a domain with a .web TLD. Of course, such a TLD did not exist, but when you sent in the money to "purchase" your own .web domain, you would be sent a (windows) plugin to make your browser think that the tld existed. so as long as you were using your own browser you would think that your website was published at that domain (like, owen.web). Maybe .mac would do the same thing, installing a mac-only plugin to all bundled browsers that would resolve email.mac or homepage.mac, so only macs could access iTools pages (except for webmail of course).

starman · Jul 9, 2002, 04:44 PM

Then how do Windows/Linux/other users see .mac, like for email, etc.?

I don't think it will work, unless there's something coming that's been kept secret.

Mike

[ 07-09-2002, 04:46 PM: Message edited by: starman ]

eep! · Jul 9, 2002, 08:20 PM

I was under the impression that anyone could set up a tld so long as they maintained their own servers. have i mis-read something or just plain-good-old-fashioned wrong?

DaveGee · Jul 9, 2002, 09:30 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by eep!:
I was under the impression that anyone could set up a tld so long as they maintained their own servers. have i mis-read something or just plain-good-old-fashioned wrong?

<hr /></blockquote>Just wrong... Think about it... if anyone/everyone could become a top level domain we'd have tons of em. The gov gets a TLD as does .com .net .org .edu and each country gets one as well other than that I think that's about it... Plans have been discussed on a way to add more but I don't think anything ever came of it and even if it did I don't think they would ever allow a free-for-all on TLD's. It would be a total mess.

[ 07-09-2002, 09:33 PM: Message edited by: DaveGee ]

Chris Grande · Jul 9, 2002, 09:37 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DaveGee:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by eep!:
I was under the impression that anyone could set up a tld so long as they maintained their own servers. have i mis-read something or just plain-good-old-fashioned wrong?

<hr /></blockquote>Just wrong... Think about it... if anyone/everyone could become a top level domain we'd have tons of em. The gov gets a TLD as does .com .net .org .edu and each country gets one as well other than that I think that's about it... Plans have been discussed on a way to add more but I don't think anything ever came of it and even if it did I don't think they would ever allow a free-for-all on TLD's. It would be a total mess.<hr /></blockquote>There are a few more TLDs out there. There is .biz, .tv, and .info. I also think there were plans for a .kids for kid friendly sites, but I can't remember.

[ 07-09-2002, 09:39 PM: Message edited by: Chris Grande ]

dreilly1 · Jul 9, 2002, 09:58 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by eep!:
I was under the impression that anyone could set up a tld so long as they maintained their own servers. have i mis-read something or just plain-good-old-fashioned wrong?

<hr /></blockquote>That's technically correct, but practically impossible. Anyone who wants to set up a new .tld can run their own name server, and get it. However, only people who know how to get to the new name server can see the new .tld .

ICANN controls all of the "definitive" name servers (and screwing things up, IMHO). If ICANN doesn't recognize a .tld, it doesn't exist. And they won't recognize yours.

<a href="http://www.alternic.org" target="_blank">Alternic</a> is an attempt to set up an alternate domain name system with new .tld's , but they bypass ICANN's root servers, and thus most people can't access them.

juanvaldes · Jul 9, 2002, 11:05 PM

I still think we should have a .xxx or .sex for porn sites. Would make porn filter software super easy too!

krove · Jul 9, 2002, 11:30 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by juanvaldes:
I still think we should have a .xxx or .sex for porn sites. Would make porn filter software super easy too!

<hr /></blockquote>And how do you propose implementing a world-wide law forcing all porn sites to move to the new TLD? While you are at it, how do you difinitively define pornography (nudity, sex, partial nudity)?

Content is never black and white, so attempting to regulate it would be a bureaucratic nightmare!

ZnU · Jul 9, 2002, 11:39 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Chris Grande: There are a few more TLDs out there. There is .biz, .tv, and .info. I also think there were plans for a .kids for kid friendly sites, but I can't remember.<hr /></blockquote>The .tv domain is a country code. Some company bought it from Tuvalu, a small island nation in the Pacific. The .ws domain is the same deal; a company bought it from Western Samoa.

I like the idea of Apple setting Macs up to resolve a fake .mac domain. It could be used to create a network of Mac-only content and services. Apple could also offer various features, like dynamic (fake) DNS, so you could register a .mac (for free, of course) and then use it to access your computer from it from any other Mac, even if you didn't have a static IP. With support this this built into the system, it could be made totally seamless; every time your Mac got a new IP it would automatically inform Apple's servers.

If Apple ran real DNS servers for the domain, you could even access it from non-Mac systems (without having to play games with browser plugins, etc.). You'd just have to switch your TCP/IP configuration to use Apple's DNS servers. There are already alternative DNS networks that offer additional TLDs, so this is quite possible.

moki · Jul 10, 2002, 01:31 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ZnU:
The .tv domain is a country code. Some company bought it from Tuvalu, a small island nation in the Pacific. The .ws domain is the same deal; a company bought it from Western Samoa.<hr /></blockquote>An interesting sidenote; this thread has a discussion of where exactly these countries are (.tv, .cc, .cx, etc.) and also a bit down in the thread, mentions that Tuvula doesn't exist anymore. The small island nation had to evacuate their island due to rising oceans:

<a href="http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/webboard/Forum23/HTML/002833.html" target="_blank">http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/webboard/Forum23/HTML/002833.html</a>

Ironic that they were brought a fortune by technology, then very likely were effectively wiped out by it (global warming and rising oceans).

Chris Grande · Jul 10, 2002, 01:38 AM

You can go to <a href="http://www.tv" target="_blank">www.tv</a> and you get The .tv Corporation a VeriSign company.

ablaze · Jul 10, 2002, 03:14 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ZnU:
The .tv domain is a country code. Some company bought it from Tuvalu, a small island nation in the Pacific. <hr /></blockquote>But Tuvalu will soon be completely underwater due to the greenhouse effect! What will ICANN do then? Kill the .tv TLD?

Phoenix1701 · Jul 10, 2002, 12:36 PM

Well, it's obvious what Apple will have to do then... create its own nation! Hey, if <a href="http://www.wired.com/news/topstories/0,1287,1065,00.html" target="_blank">Cuervo</a> can do it, why not Apple? Yes, it's all falling into place now... the national animal would be the dogcow, the national symbol is fairly obvious, and the flag... hmm... how about the national slogan: "Iguana Iguana Powersurgius"?

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