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ambush
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Nov 23, 2006, 07:24 PM
 
I recently found that someone on flickr had taken a photography in Outremont (some people call it Little Israel), where I've lived for 19 years and where I work...

Is it anti-semitic? I find it rather funny because the guy has a joking face. Lol.

     
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Nov 23, 2006, 07:26 PM
 
It's antisemitic to take pictures?
     
ambush  (op)
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Nov 23, 2006, 07:30 PM
 
No, not take the picture. That's photojournalism in some kind of way.

I mean, the graffiti, man.
     
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Nov 23, 2006, 07:31 PM
 
What does the symbol mean? Never seen it before.
     
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Nov 23, 2006, 07:37 PM
 
Speed bump (or other bumps, like cattle bars).

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ambush  (op)
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Nov 23, 2006, 07:42 PM
 
yeah... if people go too fast in streets where children play or where there's a school, they will sometimes use this as a last resort.

it's common in "ruelles" (backstreets) tho.
     
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Nov 23, 2006, 07:42 PM
 
I think the lolling tongue makes it anti-Semitic. Without that it would be cool.
     
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Nov 23, 2006, 07:46 PM
 
I lawled.

Coulda been done by a Jew.
     
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Nov 23, 2006, 07:49 PM
 
No I think it is cute but some jews can be a bit sensitive so who knows.

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Nov 23, 2006, 07:57 PM
 
Was the illustrator drunk?
     
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Nov 23, 2006, 08:02 PM
 
But if it somehow portrayed Muhammed, people would be dead by now from riots.
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Nov 24, 2006, 12:42 AM
 
Originally Posted by Sky Captain View Post
But if it somehow portrayed Muhammed, people would be dead by now from riots.
Instead we'll agonize over whether a smiley face is offensive or not. Different levels of reaction, same stupidity.
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Nov 24, 2006, 12:56 AM
 
Not the same - you're non-orthodox Jews, quibbling over whether a Jew would find it offensive, whereas the Mohammed pictures, no one quibbled, and the Muslims who rioted found it offensive.

Not the same, because of outsider / insider.

I would suggest, not anti-semitic. It's not anything more than an attempt at fun.
     
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Nov 24, 2006, 03:50 AM
 
I find that outrageous...ly funny I don't see how could anynone find that drawing anti-semitic or derogatory... I mean, it's merely a graphical representation, it's not like there's a big X on it, or a bad joke written beside it. To be "anti"-something, there need to be anything against it...
Merriam-Webster
Anti-semitism: hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group
No hostility = no anti-semitism. The best example I can find is when people see something vaguely ressembling Micky Mouse's ears, they draw a Mickey out of it. It doesn't mean that they are against Mr Mouse, it just says that they have a good imagination ability...

Regarding those darned speed bump, they would be OK if only they let you drive at the posted speed limit. If the sign says "Max: 50 km/h", I expect to be able to drive up to that speed. But if you hit a speed bump at 50 (or even 30), you're going to cause major damage to your suspension, wheels and maybe your bumper too..
     
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Nov 24, 2006, 03:55 AM
 
Nope, not antisemitic. Kind of funny, actually.
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Nov 24, 2006, 08:52 AM
 
IMO, that scribble is Pro-Semitic.
     
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Nov 24, 2006, 09:17 AM
 
Would that make it anti-Muslim?
     
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Nov 24, 2006, 09:24 AM
 
well I'm not offended.
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ambush  (op)
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Nov 24, 2006, 10:11 AM
 
more pics of where I work/live








on québec national day



traditionally, lots of drinking & eating on bloomfield street




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talisker
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Nov 24, 2006, 10:15 AM
 
Looks like my sort of place! Have to visit Quebec sometime.
     
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Nov 24, 2006, 10:19 AM
 
Looks nice
     
Big Mac
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Nov 24, 2006, 10:25 AM
 
No, doesn't appear to be antisemitic. However, It is my understanding that Quebec was a hotbed of Jew-hatred at one point - my father was born in Montreal and told me of Quebec.

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Nov 24, 2006, 10:28 AM
 
Originally Posted by The Godfather View Post
IMO, that scribble is Pro-Semitic.
To me, it seems to mean something like "Be careful not to run over the Jews around here."
     
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Nov 24, 2006, 11:00 AM
 
Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post
However, It is my understanding that Quebec was a hotbed of Jew-hatred at one point
Wasn't everywhere where Jews have ever existed, at some point?
     
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Originally Posted by talisker View Post
Wasn't everywhere where Jews have ever existed, at some point?
No, I don't think that's the case.

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Nov 24, 2006, 11:09 AM
 
Originally Posted by Kerrigan View Post
Would that make it anti-Muslim?
That'd probably make it pro-Muslim if anything. Because IIRC most "semitic" people (don't know the correct term in English) are Muslim.

And one things for sure. If it's pro-Muslim it has to be anti-Jewish...... or something like that.

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Nov 24, 2006, 11:21 AM
 
I don't think so, although I'm sure there are people who claim it is.
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Nov 24, 2006, 11:52 AM
 
Muslims and Jews have the same religious roots anyway if you go far enough back.

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Big Mac
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Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - View Post
Muslims and Jews have the same religious roots anyway if you go far enough back.
I don't want to derail this non-PL thread, but let's just correct that statement: Judaism is the faith from which Christianty and Islam came. And the Torah predates the Koran by around 2000 years.

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Nov 24, 2006, 03:28 PM
 
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Nov 24, 2006, 03:41 PM
 
Originally Posted by talisker View Post
Looks like my sort of place! Have to visit Quebec sometime.
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Nov 24, 2006, 04:10 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sayf-Allah View Post
That'd probably make it pro-Muslim if anything. Because IIRC most "semitic" people (don't know the correct term in English) are Muslim.

And one things for sure. If it's pro-Muslim it has to be anti-Jewish...... or something like that.
This article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semite

says that it is a set of languages. I don't know how well it applies to people, neccessarily. It seems to be a commonly misapplied word. In the common American lexicon, semitic is understood to mean Jewish people. I hear it most often in the context of someone being anti-semitic.
     
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Nov 24, 2006, 04:18 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sayf-Allah View Post
That'd probably make it pro-Muslim if anything. Because IIRC most "semitic" people (don't know the correct term in English) are Muslim.

And one things for sure. If it's pro-Muslim it has to be anti-Jewish...... or something like that.
Antisemitism (alternatively spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is hostility toward or prejudice against Jews as a religious or ethnic group, which can range in expression from individual hatred to institutionalized, violent persecution.
     
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Nov 24, 2006, 04:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by ambush View Post
I recently found that someone on flickr had taken a photography in Outremont (some people call it Little Israel), where I've lived for 19 years and where I work...

Is it anti-semitic? I find it rather funny because the guy has a joking face. Lol.

In any case, this is in the wrong forum.

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