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Which is more important? Success in what you do; or success in who you are?
It's a question that I've been thinking about this holiday season. Having been here long enough to get a basic idea of many members' personalities, I'd be curious to know your answers and why. I'll answer after a few replies so as not to pollute the sample. Discuss and Happy Holidays.
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what you do. more specifically "for other people".
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Success in what you do = success in who you are.
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Originally posted by Randman:
Success in what you do = success in who you are.
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Indeed. If what you do is not a part of who you are; what good can come out of it?
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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nothing succeeds like success...
/unfortunately one of the ultimate truths� of the universe
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life results from the non-random survival of randomly varying replicators - r. dawkins
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Senior User
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Originally posted by UNTiMac:
Success in what you do; or success in who you are?
how can you NOT succeed in who you are?
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life results from the non-random survival of randomly varying replicators - r. dawkins
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Originally posted by roberto blanco:
nothing succeeds like success...
/unfortunately one of the ultimate truths� of the universe
Once again - indeed. But what is success? I know I'm successful in many areas, but I know a lot of people's definition of success isn't compatible with mine. I think the absolute key to real success is being able to project your own definition of success into other peoples minds. Ultimately, success is defined by your own faith in yourself and in what you're doing. And the absolute opposite of success is feeling inferior because you're not living up to someones else's defintion of success.
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I met success once. He was a jackass.
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Success is what you eat:
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When a true genius appears in the world you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. -- Jonathan Swift.
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Join Date: Nov 1999
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Originally posted by Randman:
Success in what you do = success in who you are.
flip those two and it actually makes sense ...
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Originally posted by effgee:
flip those two and it actually makes sense ...
its the same either way.
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Originally posted by Mafia:
its the same either way.
... hence the " " smilie.
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i bling at both
but my life ain't perfect. i take solace that i am who i want to be and can live with who i am everyday.
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Originally posted by roberto blanco:
how can you NOT succeed in who you are?
That question should be easy. Haven't you ever known someone who was very good at what they do but not a good person? That's what I mean.
We all make efforts (I hope) to be better people but I don't agree with the notion that success in what you do = success in who you are.
As for me, I think success in who I am is more important. What I do may be part of that, but I consider the person I am at the end of the day...the way I conduct myself with people...the way treat loved ones, strangers, myself...are all more important than professional success.
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the more and more i look at success the more it looks like its spelled wrong.
am i unsuccessful?
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Originally posted by UNTiMac:
That question should be easy. Haven't you ever known someone who was very good at what they do but not a good person? That's what I mean.
what does 'being successful at who you are' necessarily have to do with being a 'good person'? - i've met quite a few people in my life who were very successful at being complete and total assholes (my definition).
as to being successful 'at what you do'? that's all wish fulfillment to me(and very individualistic). if at the end of the day you're truly 'happy' with a glass of water and a piece of bread, you're a successful person.
if, otoh, you're goal is to have 2 houses, 4 kids, a high position in a company, and you are bitter because you haven't reached that goal, imo, you are not successful at all.
and unless you know the meaning of life, my claim stands.
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Originally posted by Oranges for Six:
And the absolute opposite of success is feeling inferior because you're not living up to someones else's defintion of success.
'ambition is the last refuge of the failure' - o. wilde
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life results from the non-random survival of randomly varying replicators - r. dawkins
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The secret of my success is I'm living 25 hours a daaaaaay.
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