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Safari 1.3 - UI thread a lot more beach-bally?
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Diggory Laycock
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Apr 25, 2005, 08:27 AM
 
I'd like to know if anyone else has the same usage patterns and experiences with the Transition between Safari 1.2 and 1.3.

I tend to have many, many pages/tabs open in Safari. I will frequently open a forum, and scan the threads, opening some of them in new tabs.

I also tend to leave quite a few windows open at the same time - e.g. I'll leave a page open as reference material, or leave a page open as a reminder of something I have to do.

Anyway -

It seems to me that for users like me Safari 1.3 blocks the UI a lot more than 1.2 did.

I used to be able to start loading several tabs in the background while still scrolling the active page.

Now - if more than one tab is loading in the background, the UI will rapidly beachball - I can't even scroll or change tabs - and the successfully clicking links becomes somewhat hit-and-miss.

I have a pet theory that they traded-off UI performance, for increased rendering speed.

Basically I now find tabs almost an impediment to browsing... But I don't hear other people complaining - so either:

A: - few people browse like me. (unlikely I'd have thought)
B: - I have PithHelmet installed and this is causing problems (again - not an uncommon situation, so I'd have thought more people would be in the same position) (Also disabling PH seems not to affect the problem.)


So - I'm scratching my head a bit - does anyone else find Safari blocking the UI a lot? Or do I need to change my browsing habits?
     
Eug Wanker
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Apr 25, 2005, 09:12 AM
 
I don't use Tabs, but I often have lots of Safari windows open (eg. 8). No problem with beachballing.

I don't use PithHelmet though.
     
PurpleGiant
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Apr 25, 2005, 09:29 AM
 
I get much less beachballing in 1.3. Powerbook 1.67 ghz, 1gb ram.
     
Diggory Laycock  (op)
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Apr 25, 2005, 10:29 AM
 
Hmm - I've now tried zipping-up my InputManagers Directory (completely disabling SIMBL and its dependants).

Initial results are much better - I'll see what it's like after Safari's been running for a while.

Sigh.. - the web is so unpleasantly flashy now
     
Diggory Laycock  (op)
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Apr 25, 2005, 10:32 AM
 
Nice - the new version of the boards catches duplicate post-errors automatically.
     
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Apr 30, 2005, 08:10 PM
 
I always have tons of tabs open in Safari and it keeps on beachballing on me (forever so I have to force quit)

I've decided that I ****ing hate Safari and will use Firefox until Apple fixes their childish web browsing app. Firefox NEVER beachballs which loading a webpage in another thread.
     
risach
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May 1, 2005, 06:12 PM
 
Same browsing habits as Diggory Laycock, same observations (no PithtHelmet, though; just plain Safari).

That means: Safari 1.3 under 10.3.9 beachballs much more than Safari 1.2.x under 10.3.8 --
I just hope that Safari 2.0 and Tiger will fix this; I am not going to abandon Safari which is for me the best browser on OS X (speed period. Firefox is nice and provides alot of useful plugins, but it is slower when used seriously, ie. a lot of tabs etc).
Apple has to fix Safari 1.3, offer us all the nice new features but not at the price of annoying beach-balling.
I hope Apple has already done with Safari 2.0 -- although, there should be something done for the guys staying with Panther, not leaving them in the cold. Safari 1.3.1 is needed!
     
   
 
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