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Dark Helmet · Jul 30, 2006, 06:08 PM

This aired last week in Canada

<- That's an "emoticon"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...20776386465403

brassplayersrock² · Jul 30, 2006, 06:14 PM

"it's bigger and more percise" lol

rickey939 · Jul 30, 2006, 06:27 PM

hickey · Jul 30, 2006, 06:28 PM

I assume it was aired to purposely show how far we've come? OR at least something along those lines.

Salty · Jul 30, 2006, 06:29 PM

I love how they never use THE internet, just internet.

Dark Helmet · Jul 30, 2006, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by hickey

I assume it was aired to purposely show how far we've come? OR at least something along those lines.

Ah, it is really old. I was kidding about the last week thing.

davesimondotcom · Jul 30, 2006, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Salty

I love how they never use THE internet, just internet.

Yes, these are the same people who go to restaurant to eat and get food poisoning and end up in hospital.

Maybe they were concerned that if they said "the internet" it would come out as "teh internet."

Ghoser777 · Jul 30, 2006, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Salty

I love how they never use THE internet, just internet.

Actually, near the end they start calling it "the internet."

Eug Wanker · Jul 30, 2006, 07:53 PM

Wow, Peter Mansbridge still has a bit of hair left in that video.

xi_hyperon · Jul 30, 2006, 08:04 PM

You mean you don't use AlexTel?

Jawbone54 · Jul 30, 2006, 08:17 PM

I love taking a glance back into the past at stuff like that.

Kerrigan · Jul 30, 2006, 09:03 PM

"not a lot of cursing, personal cuts, or put-downs on internet"

Dark Helmet · Jul 30, 2006, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

"not a lot of cursing, personal cuts, or put-downs on internet"

MacNN wasn't around at the time so it was true.

amsalpemkcus · Jul 30, 2006, 11:27 PM

Damn! Seems it works regardless of whether its night or day! now that alone is amazing!

CharlesS · Jul 30, 2006, 11:37 PM

Judging from the way that clip and the computers in it look, and also by the fact that it only seems to mention Usenet and e-mail rather than the World Wide Web, I'd say that clip looks like it was made either in the late 1980s or very early 1990s (the WWW was invented by Berners-Lee in 1990 and went public in 1991, and it started getting popular when Mosaic came out in 1993, according to Wikipedia). A quick Google search shows that the clip was made in 1993, which means I wasn't far off with that guess.

How much did you know about the Internet in 1993? I'm guessing not much.

As for "Internet" instead of "the Internet", you have to remember that at that time, when people thought of this sort of thing, they usually thought in terms of online services with proper names. When you're used to "It's on AOL" or "It's on CompuServe", then "It's on Internet" follows quite naturally.

mitchell_pgh · Jul 30, 2006, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by CharlesS

Judging from the way that clip and the computers in it look, and also by the fact that it only seems to mention Usenet and e-mail rather than the World Wide Web, I'd say that clip looks like it was made either in the late 1980s or very early 1990s (the WWW was invented by Berners-Lee in 1990 and went public in 1991, and it started getting popular when Mosaic came out in 1993, according to Wikipedia). A quick Google search shows that the clip was made in 1993, which means I wasn't far off with that guess.

How much did you know about the Internet in 1993? I'm guessing not much.

As for "Internet" instead of "the Internet", you have to remember that at that time, when people thought of this sort of thing, they usually thought in terms of online services with proper names. When you're used to "It's on AOL" or "It's on CompuServe", then "It's on Internet" follows quite naturally.

I first started surfing around 1994... to be honest, there wasn't much useful information out there. Most corporate sites were little more than a few pages of basic information (an extended business card if you will).

To be honest, it makes me feel VERY old.

Dark Helmet · Jul 30, 2006, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh

I first started surfing around 1994... to be honest, there wasn't much useful information out there. Most corporate sites were little more than a few pages of basic information (an extended business card if you will).

To be honest, it makes me feel VERY old.

Ya I started in 1995 and it was 90% all star trek and porn related.

Not that I minded.

MacMan4000 · Jul 31, 2006, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Ya I started in 1995 and it was 90% all star trek and porn related.

Not that I minded.

It hasn't changed much then.

mitchell_pgh · Jul 31, 2006, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Ya I started in 1995 and it was 90% all star trek and porn related.

Not that I minded.

Ha... yah, It's crazy looking back. Now, EVERYONE at a college reads their email. Have a question for your professor, send an email. Back then, you had to hit them up at their office hours (which were only a few hours a week) or try them on their phone (which was a joke because they only listened to their messages when they were at the office... those few hours a week).

We also didn't have cell phones... which has also completely changed campus life. In the old days, you actually had to plan out your evening of fun by calling around to all your friends to get their plans. Ugh... what a waste of time.

Eug · Jul 31, 2006, 12:36 AM

I was on the net in the 1980s. However, it was all text based and visiting libraries and such.

I didn't really use the net with graphical browsers consistently until Netscape 3.0 in the mid 90s.

I did try earlier versions of Netscape, but never used Mosaic really.

Dark Helmet · Jul 31, 2006, 12:40 AM

My first internet was eworld and the first site I hit was yahoo as I didn't know what else to type in the address bar.

Chuckit · Jul 31, 2006, 12:49 AM

It's a bunch of tubes!

Salty · Jul 31, 2006, 01:24 AM

I remember high school back in hmmm, guess it would have been 2000 or 1999, my school got the internet. I think it was 99 near the end of the year. I was like, OK I want to look at the internet, so I went online, and I went to yahoo, cause well I knew to type that. Then I searched things and kept clicking on ads because, well they were pictures, and I think I spent like 5 minutes clicking through pages ending up in various search engines, I was stuck on go.com for a long time. Then I gave up and said this thing sucks! The next year we got the internet at home, first only on the PC then we soon later got my iMac hooked up. And then... wow... haha it's strange to think that the internet is so new!

Ulrich Kinbote · Jul 31, 2006, 01:55 AM

First time I used the Internet was at university. I printed off like 500 pages of stuff. I was like 'IT'S FREE! HA! HA! IT'S ALL FREE!' and then I realised you could just go back later and the information would still be there.

So, how about those Raiders?

tavilach · Jul 31, 2006, 02:17 AM

Wow. Internet seems pretty kick-ass! Who makes it?

Chuckit · Jul 31, 2006, 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by tavilach

Wow. Internet seems pretty kick-ass! Who makes it?

Microsoft.

badidea · Jul 31, 2006, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

My first internet was eworld...

Yep, here too - 1993 and I used Mosaic and it took me quite a while to find out what you can do with that "www" thing there

SirCastor · Jul 31, 2006, 04:50 AM

I recall writing my first webpage and testing it in Netscape. I was excited about v2, because of frame support. Prior to that, my internet experience was limited.
From the time I was 12, I was playing on bbs', that was cool. Anyone else do that? Remember Legend of the Red Dragon?

Salty · Jul 31, 2006, 04:52 AM

One of the first thing I did on the internet was try to join a MUSH hahaha... I was such a newbie!

- - e r i k - - · Jul 31, 2006, 05:04 AM

Oslo was in Sweden back then? Man this is OLD!

Gamoe · Jul 31, 2006, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh

We also didn't have cell phones... which has also completely changed campus life. In the old days, you actually had to plan out your evening of fun by calling around to all your friends to get their plans. Ugh... what a waste of time.

And people don't spend inordinate amounts of time on cell phones these days? Even worse, it's often in totally inappropriate settings and people get so absorbed in talking that they miss out on everyday experiences in life.

When did you last take the time to look up at the sky or at your surroundings to experience and appreciate life and nature? These days it seems like we're too absorbed with our gadgets to do so. Not that I dislike gadgets, quite the contrary, but I think we spend way too much time dabbling in trivialities instead of experiencing life.

That said, I think it's undeniable that cell phones and the Internet have made many things much faster and more convenient. There are many situations which occur to me, social and otherwise, where the use of a cell phone and/or the Internet is critical and expected, and yet it often escapes me how that situation would have been handled or even possible without the use of those technologies which haven't been in popular use for really all that long.

We get used to convenience very quickly and then proceed to forget how we used to live just a few decades (or less) ago. Technology is all in how you use it, but I often think that as a society and as individuals we often aren't the wisest in the ways and times we make use of those convenient technologies.

Gossamer · Jul 31, 2006, 10:09 AM

We first got dial-up at school in 96, and the only site I knew was LEGO.com (I swore it had to be capitalized). I always tried to play this game they had online but it was so slow I could never get all the way through. Here it is, ten years later, and my parents still don't have internet at home, which irks my sister to no end.

davesimondotcom · Jul 31, 2006, 10:34 AM

My first net access was in 1993, my freshman year at University of the Pacific. I got a modem for my Mac Classic and would dial into the school's network.

From there, I would telnet or gopher. I learned a lot of the text based commands and such, too.

Then, I got AOL, which introduced me to the world of online porn. LOL

I think I downloaded Mosaic only a day or two after the first public release. And I was writing HTML shortly after. And shortly after that, I was hating HTML for not being as capable as it should be, graphically.

I just threw out a bunch of books last week on HTML and the Mac and such. The Macintosh Bible circa 1994 and an HTML book from 1995 that went into great detail about the <blink> tag.

I also tossed manuals for Photoshop 3, the Photoshop 3 WOW! book, LivePicture (whoa), old versions of Illustrator, GoLive (including a book on Golive Cyberstudio 3.1)

God I'm old...eh... experienced!

shabbasuraj · Jul 31, 2006, 10:46 AM

bullitin boards were the BOMB

Chuckit · Jul 31, 2006, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Gabriel Morales

When did you last take the time to look up at the sky or at your surroundings to experience and appreciate life and nature? These days it seems like we're too absorbed with our gadgets to do so. Not that I dislike gadgets, quite the contrary, but I think we spend way too much time dabbling in trivialities instead of experiencing life.

You think talking on the cell phone is less of an experience than looking up?

Shaddim · Jul 31, 2006, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by tavilach

Wow. Internet seems pretty kick-ass! Who makes it?

Algore.

CharlesS · Jul 31, 2006, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by SirCastor

From the time I was 12, I was playing on bbs', that was cool. Anyone else do that? Remember Legend of the Red Dragon?

Legend of the Red Dragon was so boring and repetitive. The only fun thing to do with it was to watch for certain people that would log on at exactly the same time every day, so you could log on right before they'd show up, wait for them, and then kill them the moment they entered the game. And then you could repeat this every day for a week or two. I remember getting some quite colorful e-mails for doing that.

TradeWars 2002 was a much better game than LORD, though.

Gamoe · Jul 31, 2006, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

You think talking on the cell phone is less of an experience than looking up?

I was trying to point out that a lot of times we may miss out on other experiences because we get caught up talking on the phone too often.

Now, judging the validity or importance of one experience over the other is purely a personal preference, however when you're ignoring the world around you in order to chit chat on the phone, which you can do anywhere at anytime, then I'd say you're missing out on something.

Landos Mustache · Jul 31, 2006, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by shabbasuraj

bullitin boards were the BOMB

My friend was all over those and even started his own but I hated that it was all text based. Until something visual like eworld came around I wasn't interested.

Jawbone54 · Jul 31, 2006, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Ulrich Kinbote

First time I used the Internet was at university. I printed off like 500 pages of stuff. I was like 'IT'S FREE! HA! HA! IT'S ALL FREE!' and then I realised you could just go back later and the information would still be there.

So, how about those Raiders?

The print story is hilarious. It took me a year to start to properly understand how it all worked. I would just keep windows open on my Dad's old Packard Bell (heck yeah...) for days, until something goofed up and we had to restart the Packard. I'd freak out, not knowing how I would ever locate whatever page I was at again.

Originally Posted by MacNStein

Originally Posted by tavilach

Wow. Internet seems pretty kick-ass! Who makes it?

Algore.

These kind of threads always bring out this type of stuff. It's nice to get a breather from the Political/War Lounge over here and catch a laugh.

Originally Posted by Gabriel Morales

I was trying to point out that a lot of times we may miss out on other experiences because we get caught up talking on the phone too often.

Now, judging the validity or importance of one experience over the other is purely a personal preference, however when you're ignoring the world around you in order to chit chat on the phone, which you can do anywhere at anytime, then I'd say you're missing out on something.

There is truth to this. As much as I love technology, it's nice every once in a while to turn off the cell phone, leave the computer at the house, and go find a place outside to just zone out for a while.

Unless it's a day like today at 96 degrees with 106 heat index.

Gossamer · Jul 31, 2006, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

Unless it's a day like today at 96 degrees with 106 heat index.

Truth! Thank goodness for air conditioning and tropical sno!

olePigeon · Jul 31, 2006, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by SirCastor

From the time I was 12, I was playing on bbs', that was cool. Anyone else do that? Remember Legend of the Red Dragon?

The Gnome's Guest House, Amiga CNet BBS.

It was all about Trade Wars, baby. I spent about a week (a real week, you got 1 turn/3 actions a DAY) towing an asteroid from the middle of nowhere all the way to an empty spot only 3 jumps from Earth.

Spent my first month of turns buying nothing but defenses for it cuz people kept trying to take it over. Since it was only 3 jumps from Earth, it was often the first planet anyone leaving Earth would visit for trade. Man, racked up the cash on that one.

Named it LV-426.

Other fun BBS games were Hack n' Slash, Imperial, Global Thermal Nuclear Warfare (aka RISK), Wheel of Fortune, and a really, really fun Hacking game (damn it, I can't remember it.) Once you hacked the Bank in the game and got the password, it gave you a real number to dial in and attempt a hack on the BBS. Back when it first came out, if you did it, you got a T-Shirt.

CharlesS · Jul 31, 2006, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

The Gnome's Guest House, Amiga CNet BBS.

It was all about Trade Wars, baby. I spent about a week (a real week, you got 1 turn/3 actions a DAY) towing an asteroid from the middle of nowhere all the way to an empty spot only 3 jumps from Earth.

Spent my first month of turns buying nothing but defenses for it cuz people kept trying to take it over. Since it was only 3 jumps from Earth, it was often the first planet anyone leaving Earth would visit for trade. Man, racked up the cash on that one.

Named it LV-426.

Huh? I admit it's been a long time, but I don't remember any asteroids in TradeWars. I also remember having way more than 1 turn per day...

- - e r i k - - · Jul 31, 2006, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by CharlesS

Legend of the Red Dragon was so boring and repetitive. The only fun thing to do with it was to watch for certain people that would log on at exactly the same time every day, so you could log on right before they'd show up, wait for them, and then kill them the moment they entered the game. And then you could repeat this every day for a week or two. I remember getting some quite colorful e-mails for doing that.

TradeWars 2002 was a much better game than LORD, though.

Haha!

The original camper™

hey!_Zeus · Jul 31, 2006, 09:02 PM

Internets is KICK-ASS so STFU!

I got some today.

Velocity211 · Jul 31, 2006, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Salty

I love how they never use THE internet, just internet.

Just like how apple never uses THE when referring to the iPod.

besson3c · Jul 31, 2006, 09:50 PM

Doesn't this thread belong in the "Marketplace" forum?

turtle777 · Aug 1, 2006, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by besson3c

Doesn't this thread belong in the "Marketplace" forum?

Why, you wanna buy it ?

-t