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Rumor Roundup: high resolution iPad in ad analytics, possible stylus
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Aug 19, 2015, 10:12 AM
 
Application and advertising analytic firm Appsee claims to have discovered proof that the iPad Pro is real, and coming soon. Logs from the company show a new "iPad6,8" with a screen resolution of 2732x2048. Additionally, the company is seeing an "iPhone8,1" and "iPhone8,2," allegedly correlating to new iPhones. Additionally, analysts are predicting Force Touch and a Bluetooth stylus to ship alongside the new unit.

The iPad Air 2 is designated as the iPad5,3 and iPad 5,4. Current resolutions on the iPad Air 2 are 2048x1536 -- which matches information gleaned from other Apple beta software. Assuming the same pixel density of 264DPI as found in the iPad air 2, this would make the iPad6,8 a 10.3x7.8-inch screen, with a 12.9-inch diagonal measurement. A higher DPI, such as the 326DPI found in the iPad mini Retina would make the device a 8.4x6.3-inch screen with a diagonal measurement of 8.9 inches -- in between the iPad mini's 7.9 inches and full size 9.7-inch iPad.

Appearance in the company's logs suggest that the devices are in end-stage testing. No other information can be gleaned from the logs, other than resolution and device name. Similar reports circulated about prior iPads and iPhones, but generally well before release dates -- suggesting that if an iPad Pro is released in a September or October event, it may not see wide release until later in the year, or even 2016.

Analyst Ming-Chi Kuo from KGI securities predicts Force Touch will be on the new iPad Pro. Also pontificated is a Bluetooth stylus with indeterminate specification, sold separately from any new iPad. KGI securities predicts that mass production of the new device would begin in September, with no clear note on ship date. The new KGI brief about the iPad Pro also walks back previous claims made by the firm about Force touch driving sales, saying now that it is just a productivity and input enhancer.
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Aug 19, 2015, 10:18 AM
 
When the iPad was initially released, didn't Steve say that if you needed a stylus, they had failed?
     
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Aug 19, 2015, 10:35 AM
 
Famously, yes.
     
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Aug 19, 2015, 10:58 AM
 
He said that about the iPhone, not the iPad. He was talking about the current crop of smartphones where you couldn't really use them without the included stylus, partly because the screens were too small and partly because they used resistive touchscreens (as opposed to capacitive) which aren't very forgiving, responsive, or accurate when using your finger.

Also, "need." Steve railed against phones that were basically useless without a stylus, and there were a few popular phones on the market that fit this description exactly. If you lost the stylus, you'd be severely hampered until you got a new one.

Besides, that was nearly 8 years ago, and you're conveniently ignoring the context under which Steve said that and trying to shoe-horn his quote into something completely different.
     
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Aug 19, 2015, 11:04 AM
 
Markets, product usages and products themselves quite logically evolve over time. In the rapidly evolving world of tech, what Steve said about any product (even if he meant it and was not simply delivering disinformation to competitors) can NOT rationally be brought up 5 years later either as some kind of truism or as some kind of implication that the statement was wrong because it does not necessarily apply half a decade later.
     
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Aug 19, 2015, 11:20 AM
 
He's also kinda dead, and can't follow up on his own remarks.
     
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Aug 20, 2015, 12:11 AM
 
Steve also said large size screen smartphone will make thumbs difficult reaching across screen. Well, I love my large screen size iPhone 6 (never look back on 5 and 4 again). Built-in stylus will come in handy if a designer (like me) wants to do refine and detail sketches on a high resolution iPad Pro. Finger alone just doesn't cut it. There's a need for it when technology improves.
     
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Aug 20, 2015, 09:17 AM
 
Steve did say that -- and now we have Reachability, which makes it not so much of an issue after all.

It's a spot-on observation to say that there's a need for it when the technology improves. It's just plain funny to reach back 5 or 10 years and pull a quote out of its temporal context to try and highlight how "wrong" they were in saying something.

Steve said a lot of things that were spot-on accurate -- for the day and age they were said in.
     
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Aug 20, 2015, 10:23 AM
 
Just going to point out here that in context of Job's comment... Yes it was from 5 years ago. But in the context of what he was saying, absolutely NOTHING has changed in the way a user navigates and types on the virtual keyboard in iOS, even since version 4. The principle still applies. From that perspective, I think his comment still applies.

As for the purpose of a rumored stylus itself, nobody knows why it would be included. Perhaps for artists to draw or sketch, etc. Signing your name or drawing with your finger is not effective at all. But we know that a stylus would not be for navigational purposes in the OS itself.
     
   
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