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Goodbye from MacNN, and Managing Editor Mike Wuerthele
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Jun 30, 2016, 06:00 PM
 
This is it. The last unique words on the MacNN homepage, barring some miracle. Hey gang, I'm Mike Wuerthele, and I've been your host here for the last couple of years, so it's only fitting that I'm the one turning off the lights.

When MacNN launched in 1995. I was a pretty junior sailor, on a 10-year old fast-attack submarine with a go-getter captain. I knew about MacNN, as the MacWeek magazine that started showing up for me (that kept on getting "borrowed" by a senior officer for a few days) would mention the site. In the rare occasions that I was home, I'd hit the page, and see what was going on.

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Fast forward a few more years, and I was out of the service, and working at one of a series of computer shops, both Apple-sanctioned and not. MacNN was a more-than-daily hit still, as sometimes the site had a better handle on what was going on than the magazines of the day did.

Years passed, and I kept reading. Other sites got bought or died off, and I kept reading. My own jobs came and went, and yes, I kept reading.

In early 2012, the site put out a call for writers. I applied, summarizing the then-ongoing Apple versus Motorola patent battle. I thought I did very badly, and didn't hear anything about the submission until April of 2012. I had a few interviews, where they asked if I could pull off the 5PM to 3AM ET shift -- which I could, as I had been in the Navy -- and I started on April 16 of 2012.

Its easy to tell how long I've been working here. My youngest child was born on April 26 of 2012. To be fair, I had told management and ownership that the baby was coming, but my very brief message in work chat of "brb, having a baby" I still get hassled about.



MacNN's most popular days were in the early part of the century. A year after I was hired, after many midnight conversations with Charles Martin, we realized that the site needed help, and needed a voice. It took about another year of harassing management for anything to really change -- on the strength of the emails that I kept battering ownership with, one October day, I was granted the Managing Editor job.

We wouldn't have lasted this long, if it wasn't for the brilliant people that I've had the immense pleasure of working with since then. Michelle Elbert did apps for me for a while, and I pushed her way past her comfort zone with some of the titles I had her review. Jordan Anderson has been my right-hand man since about 2009, and I had the pleasure of being able to work with him here for a while.

Sanjiv Sathiah has been here for utterly ages -- he started in 2010, and has been giving us the vast majority of the early looks at Apple hardware and software. Apple US doesn't really care for us that much, but we know they read what we write. Do they support us like other venues? Not a whit. Despite this, somehow, Sanjiv convinced Apple Australia that they should work with us for review units and the like, and I'm eternally indebted to him. Nobody, making what they make here, would have been able to buy this gear for review, and that kind of thing is the bread and butter of an Apple tech site.

Amber Neely I've known for a long time, almost as long as Jordan. She kicked open the doors of the boy's club, and we are richer for it. We joke all the time that she has a Bluetooth speaker wall, but in reality, she has an iOS library second to none now. When I'm too mopey, she gives me a virtual boot in the butt, reminding me of what this is all for.

I started about the same time as Malcolm Owen, and he is to Windows and OS X as I am to OS X and Windows. He is our stranger in a strange land, and his sacrifices have given a lot to the site over the four years we've been working the bit mines.

Why is William Gallagher working for us? Can anybody give me a legitimate reason other than pod people temporarily possessing him for why he wanted to? He applied to write for us a few years back, and based on his work history, I put him in the "yeah, like we can afford this kind of quality" pile. Charles made me email back, and give him a ludicrously low offer, and out of some cosmic freak accident or the aforementioned Ceti Alpha ear-eel infestation, he said yes. Of course, I took too many liberties with poor William, taking away some of his favorite technologies so he could write about it.

Charles Martin has been here a lot longer than I have, and he and I have shared two years of ridiculously late shifts, gleaning meaning from press releases, late court filings, and spec sheets. When I ordered the podcast restart, he jumped in with me whole-heartedly. Very easily, he could have done the Managing Editor job, but he was fine with being our chief grammarian, and comma-inserter.

Like a too-long Oscar speech, I have just a few more people to thank. From my distant history, I have Captain Gary Rogeness, Captain Owen Travis, ETCM(SS) Ernest Todd, and ETCM(SS) Curt Haggard to thank for teaching me how to lead people and not just push them around.

Likewise, there are three or four from my tenure in the Navy that I'd like to thank for proving to me that "leadership" sheerly by virtue of position is no kind of leadership at all. These men shall remain nameless, but the four mentioned in the paragraph above this one probably know who I'm talking about.

Thanks for Monish Bhatia, our Editor in Chief and owner, as well as Jon Fingas (now at Engadget) for giving me a shot. And again, thanks to my crew, here at MacNN, not just for doing my bidding, but being friends along the way.

On a less personal note, MacNN would like to thank all of the public relations staff who've worked with us, for better or worse, over the last 21 years. You were with us when MacNN was the voice of the resistance, and you've stuck with us all this time -- we couldn't have done it without you.

To you, the readers: many of you have been with us for a decade or more, and you have the forum profiles to prove it. We've been through Apple's death and resurrection together, and here we are. Today, Apple isn't the company we jumped in with, but then again, we aren't the people we were then, either.

We're not completely disappearing -- you'll be seeing our bylines here and there about the web, and its possible you've seen some already. There is no orbital weapon scouring the site from existence or anything like that, so the archives will be available for a while. Additionally, the forums remain. If you're a podcast listener, we'll be back next week in your regular feed, just with a different title. We'll be opening up our topics of conversation a bit, and will have a few more voices, many of whom you've already heard, to help us out as we go along.

The submarine I served on was decommissioned in the end of 2007, and I was long gone at that point, but it still made me upset to hear. This year marks the end of MacNN, and this place has been more than my home for longer than just the time I've spend working on it. Maybe some day in the future it will return, like the Rickover will in a few years. Without this gang of misfit toys at the helm and the miscreants in the forums, though, it won't be the same.

I wrote the first draft of this piece on Saturday. I've edited it a thousand times since then. This particular paragraph isn't enough, and doesn't really describe how grateful I am to everybody, but on behalf of present and past staff, thanks for reading. Thanks for the kind words this last week, and we'll be seeing you soon.

Signing off.

-Mike Wuerthele
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Thanks for all of your hard work!
     
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Jun 30, 2016, 06:06 PM
 
Every word you've written for this site over the years is much appreciated, and each was a part of my daily morning routine of settling in for the work day.

Happy trails.
     
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Jun 30, 2016, 06:08 PM
 
*sniff*

Spent the last week or so sniffing about for other Mac news sites to fill the pending void. Not one holds a candle to MacNN...

Wishing you all well in future endeavours.
     
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Jun 30, 2016, 06:18 PM
 
So, so sorry to see this site go. I've come here every day for close to 20 years, and it never disappointed (well, maybe sometimes right after the redesigns when I had to figure out how to get it looking like the older site I remembered).

Thanks to everyone who worked so hard to bring this site to life. As far as I can see, it's the last of a great generation of Apple-centric news sites. It's the end of an era.
     
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I feel like I have lost a friend! I wish you and the staff the best.
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It's great that the forums will still be active!
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Jun 30, 2016, 06:24 PM
 
!!! a bittersweet moment
MacNN was the modern replacement for MacWeek for me and when that was discontinued, I already had MacNN as my new replacement. As @sidewaysdesign has said, now that the candle is blowing out on MacNN, there is really nothing to keep the flame on like the olympic torch. Nothing compares to this site and my fear is that no one will replace it. I wish the best for the folks at MacNN in their future endeavors!
     
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Wow, I didn't see this coming. I've been reading this site since the 1990's. I think it was 1996.
     
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Good luck on the next chapter. It's been a great 20 years reading on your website. Yet it still feels too short.
     
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Thank you, and to all MacNN staff, best of luck on your new endeavors! This site will be sorely missed.
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Back in the early 2000's before everyone and his brother was writing games for Apple, I had written a game for Mac OS X. I sent you guys a copy. Macnn wrote an article about the game which helped bring it some attention. Thanks for that, all your articles since and best of luck in your future endeavors.
     
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I've been looking around too. This really was the best of the bunch. I can't see anything to switch over to for an unbiased daily take on Apple/Mac. Too bad the chapter is over.

Thanks for all the words.
     
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Daily with you from the start. (Turned on you a few months ago with the 'gotta touch it' facial makeover at the site, but you kept classic running...awesome! I was shocked to here of the shutdown, now where do we go?
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Can think of nothing more appropriate than the words of that great and beloved Mac user and writer...

"So long and thanks for all the fish"
     
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Thanks to all involved, and good luck. 20+ great years, and I was there as a reader for all of them. You will be missed.
     
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Thank you so much. Been reading since 1995. It's weird to be old enough to see a huge web community like this grow up, then head out. But I am grateful for all your hard work over the years. Truly. - RW
     
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NO! What can be done to help? What kind of miracle?
     
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Thanks for carrying the torch for so long. To the entire team, good luck in all your future endeavors!
     
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Love you guys and MacNN...even the name is a classic! You will be missed and I can't bring myself to delete this Favorites Bar bookmark.

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Thanks for being there whenever I was in the mood to catch up in the Mac / Apple world (almost daily)! Gonna miss you all a lot. Thanks for all the fish! ;-)
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Thanks for all the in-depth information on hardware, software and all things Apple. MacNN will be missed. Good luck on future endeavors to all the staff.
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I'll miss the exchanges between you, as well as Charles... let us know where you land... can't go completely cold turkey...
     
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Thanks for running a great site for so long.. good luck with your future endeavors. Going to miss macnn.
     
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Thank you, all!
     
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This site will be sorely missed by the entire Mac community.

It was announced last month that venerable MacManagers email list is also going dark.

2016 - a sad year for the Mac community.

Good luck to all MacNN staff in pivoting onwards and upwards.
     
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Thank you to everyone involved in macnn.com for the many years I have enjoyed it. (since the 90s'). Macnn.com was the first website I opened every morning. I will miss this website.
     
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There are no sites like MacNN.... you guys have been my go-to every day for two decades. It's going to be tough to see you go.

Good luck to all things in the future, and know that you will be missed!
     
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Indeed a sad day - I remember regularly checking this site for Mac-related news since my (now long past) wonder college days in São Paulo, Brazil - thanks for the good work and farewell, guys!
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Thank you, everyone at MacNN, for all of your hard work and dedication over the years. This site has been the second place that I go every morning (Daring Fireball is first but only by an accident of chance) when I sit down at my Mac. In my mind there are literally no other sites that can fill the role that you're vacating. I wish you all all of the best in the future and thank you again!
     
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Job well done. The irony for me is that MacNN is, at the moment of its demise, the best it's ever been. Believe me, the work you folks've put in, and the results you've achieved as a result, haven't escaped notice this long-time (16 years) reader's notice. I'll keep an eye out for all of you in future, and an ear out for the first rumblings. Au revoir! (and thanks for all the fish.)
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Thanks to all the MacNN staff over the years. As WiseWeasel and many others have already said, you will certainly be sorely missed.
     
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Thank you all and good luck.

And with that, I will ceremonially remove the leftmost, first-of-the-day link in the bookmarks bar of my work browser window, where my join date says it has sat for roughly 15 years.
     
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Like so many, I am distressed to see this site go. I just registered today so that I could post this comment, but for close to 20 years this has been my default web page, and I have read (and depended upon) it religiously.

I appreciate the hard work and dedication that you have all put into this site, and the untold hours that you spent to make it comprehensive, solid, and engaging. I agree with the comments of others that this is the end of an era -- the end of a generation of compassionate, dispassionate, passionate journalism.

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This one time, at Boot Camp, I stuck a flute up my PC.
     
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Mike, Thank you for your service, both Navy and MacNN. It's been a daily read for me and will be missed
     
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Wait, WHAAAAATTTT!!!!????!!!!!????
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Originally Posted by JEB View Post
Wait, WHAAAAATTTT!!!!????!!!!!????
You snooze you lose.
Beat it!
sarcasm intended.
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Sorely disappointed to see MacNN go. It's been on my click list since around 1999. Hated the site redesign, but loved the writing.

Has anyone done a post-mortem on why the site is folding? Too many employees?
     
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Originally Posted by OkieDoc View Post
Sorely disappointed to see MacNN go. It's been on my click list since around 1999. Hated the site redesign, but loved the writing.

Has anyone done a post-mortem on why the site is folding? Too many employees?
It wasn't the site redesign. Every metric we measure moved in a positive direction after implementation. The issues are multifold, but adblockers and Google dictating a lot have a great deal to do with it.

At some point, you can't contract the staff any more, or ask them to take less money to guarantee quality content.
     
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I've been a regular reader since 1998, and used to come multiple times a day. It's truly a sad thing to lose my most used bookmark. You'll be missed.
     
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Always on my first two browser tabs.
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Oh my. Clicked on the old familiar bookmark this morning to start my day as I have done for the past twenty years or so. This is a complete shock to me. I will miss MacNN which has been a part of my life for so long.

Good luck to all of you and thank you for so many years of everything Mac.
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I stopped using the site sinds the last redesign but loved it for years, sorry to see you go MacNN.
     
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No mention of mine in the article? 8 years, getting up at 2 AM so many times to fix bugs.

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What a horrible day...no new MacNN news! Thanks for the many years, but now I remove your link from the top of my bookmarks.
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Thank you for all the great memories.
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