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NewsPoster Mar 6, 2013 09:35 PM
Investors dump AAPL, flock to GOOG on hopes of growth
Investors are running away from Apple and <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-06/google-apple-valuation-gap-widest-since-2005-on-ads.html">towards Google</a> because the former lacks "certainty" while the latter is expected to grow its share of the expanding web-advertising market, resulting in the largest gap in price-to-earnings ratio between the two companies since June 2005. While Apple is still valued more than $100 billion more than Google, the web advertising giant's stock price is considerably higher than Apple's and gaining, whereas AAPL has endured a steady malaise since it hit an <a href="http://www.macnn.com/articles/12/09/18/stock.has.risen.86.percent.since.co.founder.jobs.d ied/">all-time high</a> last fall.<br /><br />On its face, the flock to GOOG wouldn't appear to make sense compared to AAPL -- Google is trading at a P/E ratio of 25 compared to Apple's P/E of 10, Google's stock is expensive while Apple's hasn't been this cheap in over a year, and Apple continues to see high demand for its profitable products and services, while Google has <a href="http://macnn.com/rd/280468==http://news.yahoo.com/why-google-losing-billions-android-001600471.html" rel='nofollow'>lost billions</a> on Android -- but the move is more a matter of investors perceiving growth opportunities in Google's core business, which is web advertising. The market for web ads is expected to reach over $37 billion this year, and Google commands around 40 percent of it in the US market. Analysts believe the company is positioned to expand its reach in mobile, video, local and social web advertising alongside the growth of those services, <em>Bloomberg</em> reports.

Apple is seen as undergoing a slowing of its previously-phenomenal revenue growth -- though still growing -- with its margins <a href="http://macnn.com/rd/280469==http://www.electronista.com/articles/12/03/09/excluding.other.costs.ipad.has.51.percent.margin/" rel='nofollow'>decreasing slightly</a> as it introduced wildly-popular but less profitable products such as the iPad mini. Advertising and other services, which Google has built its business on, are now seen as a more predictable business model than the innovative consumer electronics path, which carries with it a risk of failure (such as the Android tablet market, or BlackBerry's PlayBook).

Analysts are unsure if the products in Apple's pipeline -- which would mostly consist of refinements and new models of existing products -- will continue the company's growth path. Rumors of <a href="http://macnn.com/rd/280470==http://www.electronista.com/articles/13/03/05/host.of.new.hardware.features.predicted.china.mode l.too/" rel='nofollow'>lower-cost iPhones</a> or <a href="http://macnn.com/rd/280471==http://www.electronista.com/articles/13/03/05/april.getting.serious.consideration.for.fifth.gen. ipad.launch/" rel='nofollow'>revamped iPads</a> may not be sufficient to significantly expand the company's base.

Investors appear to be attracted to Google's Android OS for smartphones, which has achieved a majority share of the overall smartphone market (but is actually still <a href="http://macnn.com/rd/280472==http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/195164/android-slips-ios-gains-in-us-share.html" rel='nofollow'>losing share</a> to Apple in the US) -- however, despite the penetration of Android, the OS doesn't make any money for Google except by way of increasing its advertising reach. Google also has yet to justify it's $12.5 billion <a href="http://macnn.com/rd/280473==http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/blog/2012/aug/13/motorola-mobility-google-biggest-mistake" rel='nofollow'>purchase of Motorola Mobility</a> with any hit hardware products, US sales were down in the last report quarter, and the core business -- advertising -- is only expected to grow one percent next year.

Meanwhile, Apple continues to increase sales of its leading products, and in the previous quarter only reported lower sales on products it simply couldn't make fast enough -- specifically the latest iMac along with the iPad mini. Should any of the myriad new product rumors turn out to be accurate -- the long-awaited HDTV, the later "iWatch," the cheaper iPhone for prepaid markets, the alleged "subscription streaming" music service, or an expansion of iCloud services -- it would add to Apple's already record-setting revenues and profits.

Google's growth, while smaller, is seen by investors as more predictable -- perhaps in part a reaction to the increase in government and economic uncertainty. The overall US economy is still sluggish, and the government seems bogged down in partisan inaction.

Advertising dollars are seen to be increasing moving to digital over print -- 2013 will likely be the year online advertising ad buys surpass those of print -- and Google is well-positioned to grow alongside that shift, what investors call a "tailwind" effect. Apple, though it outperforms in most areas, still has questions hanging over it of whether it can continue to innovate in the way the company did when co-founder Steve Jobs was CEO.
 
Jeronimo2000 Mar 7, 2013 07:50 AM
WTF
"the web advertising giant's stock price is considerably higher than Apple's and gaining..."

Sorry, but whoever wrote this should be fired or at least not be allowed to write ever again about anything concerning the stock market or a company's market value.

Stock price means squat. You can't compare two companies and say "their stock price is higher, this must mean they are more successful". Market capitalization is what matters.
 
jarod Mar 7, 2013 08:12 AM
Idiots
99% of people are simply idiots.
 
Charles Martin Mar 7, 2013 08:23 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by Jeronimo2000 (Post 4220584)
Stock price means squat. You can't compare two companies and say "their stock price is higher, this must mean they are more successful". Market capitalization is what matters.
Where, in the article, does it say that because GOOG is rising it means they are more successful? I can't seem to find it.

Also, the article does, in fact, mention that AAPL has a $100B higher market cap than GOOG. Maybe you missed that.
 
cgc Mar 7, 2013 10:00 AM
Quote, Originally Posted by jarod (Post 4220588)
99% of people are simply idiots.
I agree...and 87% of all statistics are made up (ironic, eh).
 
Eldernorm Mar 7, 2013 12:09 PM
interesting article
This is an interesting article cause it combines good fact with BS noise. Yes Android has more market share than Apple but Apple makes 65% of all world wide cell phone profits. Apple is just making money hand over fist selling product as fast as it can make it.

Yet its share price keeps falling. My only guess is that SPECULATORS keep trying to play Apple stock to make quick profits (see Einhorn) while INVESTORS are keeping an eye out to get more stock as it nears some bottom level.

So I guess this just says that the Market place has no idea how to deal with Apple and is placing all its bets on Amazon (sells billions, makes a few millions) and Google (android makes zero and with the abiltiy to change it, can bring google even less advertising.).

Scary world.
 
Jeronimo2000 Mar 7, 2013 01:12 PM
@chas_m
I didn't claim that it says in the article that "because GOOG is rising it means they are more successful". I only objected to the sentence "the web advertising giant's stock price is considerably higher than Apple's and gaining...". The mere fact that an author thinks that higher stock price has ANY significance tells me that he or she doesn't know much about the subject. And please don't tell me that the author didn't mean to imply that "Google's stock price is higher, and that's a good thing".

I do agree though that the part about "gaining" has some relevance. Yes, AAPL has been falling for a while GOOG has been rising. Fair enough.
 
TheGreatButcher Mar 7, 2013 05:23 PM
Buy high sell low!
Analysts just herd the sheep.
 
wrenchy Mar 7, 2013 09:04 PM
Sell sell sell!!!!!!
Get rid of all your aapl stock. Lol!
 
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