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Nov 5, 2007, 12:26 AM
 
there is, as of today, only one more year of Bush being president of the usa!
     
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Nov 5, 2007, 12:42 AM
 
Yep. On we go to Fred Thompson.
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Nov 5, 2007, 01:26 AM
 
(damn no hotlinking sites) there was a funny bush comic i posted
thought ^ was appropriate for this thread
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Nov 5, 2007, 03:29 AM
 
You're confusing election day with inauguration day. Two and a half months can be an eternity.
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Nov 5, 2007, 09:40 PM
 
I'm not so sure that he's going to relinquish the office when it's time.
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Nov 6, 2007, 06:26 AM
 
Looking forward to Queen Hillary and her 30 percent tax increase? SOMEBODY has to pay for those Illegals!
     
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Nov 6, 2007, 02:04 PM
 
yay team
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Nov 6, 2007, 02:08 PM
 
...and then we get another incompetent fool working as hard as possible for the upper 1%!
     
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Nov 6, 2007, 02:09 PM
 
Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
Looking forward to Queen Hillary and her 30 percent tax increase? SOMEBODY has to pay for those Illegals!
Not necessarily, we can buy them on credit like we're doing for Iraq
     
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Nov 6, 2007, 03:56 PM
 
Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
Looking forward to Queen Hillary and her 30 percent tax increase? SOMEBODY has to pay for those Illegals!
Somebody will have to pay for Bush's adventures in the Middle East. Just wait till the credit card bill arrives for that one.
     
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Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
...and then we get another incompetent fool working as hard as possible for the upper 1%!
That's just not true. It's the top .1%!
     
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Nov 6, 2007, 05:02 PM
 
Even better!

Do some of you really believe the ground will sprout daises and everyone will get free colonoscopies once there is a new president?

Same sh!t, different stage....that's what 08 is all about.
     
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Nov 6, 2007, 05:05 PM
 
Originally Posted by peeb View Post
Somebody will have to pay for Bush's adventures in the Middle East. Just wait till the credit card bill arrives for that one.
We KNOW the cost already from the request for funding to congress. I wish we could get a bill without all the extra pork though.


The government bought a lot of goods and services, and that helped employ a LOT of folks. Welfare to illegals and the rest of Hillarys BS won't help keep anyone employed.
     
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Nov 6, 2007, 05:15 PM
 
Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
...and then we get another incompetent fool working as hard as possible for the upper 1%!
Originally Posted by peeb View Post
That's just not true. It's the top .1%!
and they almost 37% of the personal income taxes.

As I told my brother after he was happy Clinton raised taxes on those "rich SOBs": "those rich SOBs buy the cars and boats or you name it that the chips a build go in." ("rich" is anyone that has a job.)

You do know that Rangle want to raise the 15% bottom bracket to 25%.
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Nov 6, 2007, 06:16 PM
 
Half the wealth is owned by the top 5%. a 37% income tax bracket allows them plenty of disposable income for yachts.
     
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Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
The government bought a lot of goods and services, and that helped employ a LOT of folks. Welfare to illegals and the rest of Hillarys BS won't help keep anyone employed.
Of course it will. If welfare to Halliburton is justified because they spend it creating goods and services, then welfare to folks whose income is lower, and will therefore spend a greater proportion of it, is even better, by your own argument.
     
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
"those rich SOBs buy the cars and boats and you name it that the chips a build go in." ("rich" is anyone that has a job.)
Can not parse, kthxbye.
     
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Originally Posted by peeb View Post
Of course it will. If welfare to Halliburton is justified because they spend it creating goods and services, then welfare to folks whose income is lower, and will therefore spend a greater proportion of it, is even better, by your own argument.
There you go again, using the new "H" word. That didn't take long
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Nov 6, 2007, 10:13 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chongo
"those rich SOBs buy the cars and boats and you name it that the chips a build go in." ("rich" is anyone that has a job.)
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Can not parse, kthxbye.
in the eyes of a collectivist, anyone one with a job is rich
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Nov 7, 2007, 01:15 AM
 
"you name it that the chips a build go in"
     
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Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton View Post
"you name it that the chips a build go in"
or you name it.

We make the chips that go into the electronic door locks in hotels, the temperature controls in hot tubs, just about everything you buy electronic has a chip in it, even toasters these days.
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Nov 7, 2007, 09:10 AM
 
And only two decades to clean his mess up.
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Nov 7, 2007, 09:28 AM
 
It's going to be a sad day when Bush leaves office. He's a good man.
     
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It's going to be a sad day when Bush leaves office. He's a good man.
Thanks. I needed a laugh.
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Originally Posted by OldManMac View Post
Thanks. I needed a laugh.
It's always nice to hear from the 24% in the oil industry.
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Originally Posted by RIRedinPA View Post
It's always nice to hear from the 24% in the oil industry.
Well, they do try to sell a very slippery product.
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Nov 7, 2007, 04:27 PM
 
We're still cleaning up and repairing the damage from FDR. When will those troops come home from Germany and Japan?
     
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Nov 7, 2007, 04:43 PM
 
There must be a bunch of cars with a 'four more years' sticker still clinging on to the bumper, keeping the dream alive.
     
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
Excellent!

I would much rather have four more years of Bill than *ever* have Hillary as President. As bad as he was in some ways she would be bad in so many more ways. I am mystified as to why she gets so much attention.
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I am mystified as to why she gets so much attention.
Possibly the first chick as Prez. That's why the attention.
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Nov 7, 2007, 05:15 PM
 
Better Question: would anyone rather a year of Bush over, say, a year of a nice clean landing strip? Or perhaps a year of Brazilian?

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This is the game George Wallace played to get around consecutive term limits in Alabama.
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Nov 10, 2007, 01:01 AM
 
how many years do y'all think that it will take to clean up his messes?
     
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Originally Posted by brassplayersrock² View Post
how many years do y'all think that it will take to clean up his messes?
With Bush out of office, there will be nothing upon which to fixate other than fixing. It'll be interesting to see what Democrats are for again.
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With Bush out of office, there will be nothing upon which to fixate other than fixing. It'll be interesting to see what Democrats are for again.
Maybe the Dems will actually find the guy that organized 9/11?!?! Nah that would be logical.
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Maybe the Dems will actually find the guy that organized 9/11?!?! Nah that would be logical.
OBL? Why the concern over a guy who's shut-in to a cave somewhere? Do you actually believe OBL is worth a dime to anyone at this point? He may be popular on bumper stickers, but that's about it. If he's not dead already, he may as well be.

I know you really believed that the (D) victory in 2006 was the mark of some profound change. As it stands now, all they've done is increase troop deployment in Iraq as predicted and yet... no OBL. They have managed to give teens a few more bucks and they're gaining a little ground with the whole Cheney impeachment thing, but no appropriations bill due the first week in October, no energy proposal while we're @ $100/barrel, no SCHIP measure (which has little to do with children anyway), more earmarks, and more than $150 billion in new spending proposals?

Only two more years of the 110th!
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Maybe the Dems will actually find the guy that organized 9/11?!?! Nah that would be logical.
You mean this guy. He's been in custody for some time. OBL just gave his blessing

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
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Originally Posted by ebuddy View Post
OBL? Why the concern over a guy who's shut-in to a cave somewhere? Do you actually believe OBL is worth a dime to anyone at this point? He may be popular on bumper stickers, but that's about it. If he's not dead already, he may as well be.
LOL. I love you guys. Who cares about Al Qaeda anyway when we can use 9/11 as an excuse to take out Saddam Hussein? Right?
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LOL. I love you guys. Who cares about Al Qaeda anyway when we can use 9/11 as an excuse to take out Saddam Hussein? Right?
You still bummed out over the capture of Saddam Hussein? It's been almost 4 years, you should be through these stages of grief by now.

What does OBL have to do with Al Qaeda and what exactly will the one the Dems insist on putting in the White House do differently?
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You mean this guy. He's been in custody for some time.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
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You still bummed out over the capture of Saddam Hussein? It's been almost 4 years, you should be through these stages of grief by now.

What does OBL have to do with Al Qaeda and what exactly will the one the Dems insist on putting in the White House do differently?
Why would I be bummed about the capture of SH?

OBL has nothing to do with Al Qaeda, I know that. Sorry, I forgot that your definition of "terrorist" is Democrat.

I think the hope is that a Democratic president would carry out the war on terror with something approaching competence. Which, you'll admit, is a big, big difference. And maybe he'll actually focus on the war on terror, instead of the war on random countries. If it ends up being Hillary Clinton, then we might just have more of the same, which I'm sure you'd love.
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Nov 12, 2007, 10:38 PM
 
hello oldmanmac...

about the hc thing. why would anyone want her as president?
     
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They didn't inhale, riiiiight.
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I think it's disgraceful that they didn't inhale.
     
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I think it's disgraceful that they didn't inhale.
That's because they were too busy drinking the bong water
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Originally Posted by tie View Post
Why would I be bummed about the capture of SH?

OBL has nothing to do with Al Qaeda, I know that. Sorry, I forgot that your definition of "terrorist" is Democrat.

I think the hope is that a Democratic president would carry out the war on terror with something approaching competence(NO EXAMPLE GIVEN). Which, you'll admit, is a big, big difference(SINCE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS). And maybe he'll actually focus on the war on terror, instead of the war on random countries(EVEN THOUGH IRAQ AND THE UN WERE STALLING FOR CORRUPT MONEY/PROGRAMS). If it ends up being Hillary Clinton, then we might just have more of the same, which I'm sure you'd love(EXCEPT WHEN SHE'S ON THE RAG).

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Democratic Promises Carry High Price Tag

Sunday, November 11, 2007

By: Rod Proctor -NEWSMAX

Talk may be cheap, but the cost to keep promises made by Democratic candidates could top $700 billion and push individual tax rates above 50 percent for the first time since the 1986 Reagan tax reform, fiscal experts warn.

In fact, a Democratic sweep in 2008 could push America’s tax burden up to 7th highest in the developed world, up from 21st place, according to researchers at the nonpartisan Tax Foundation.

“If Democrats control everything after 2008, there will be a substantial tax increase,” Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia tells Newsmax. “Most or all of the Bush tax cuts will be allowed to expire and tax rates may be increased besides.”

The largest hike in federal spending would come from Democrats’ plans to extend health coverage to 47 million uninsured U.S. residents.

Hillary Clinton’s plan, according to her campaign, would add about $110 billion a year to the federal budget.

Barak Obama’s plan, say Harvard University experts, would cost between $50 billion and $65 billion a year. John Edwards’s health care plan, according to an Emory University study, could run up to $145 billion a year.

Democrats across the board are also pitching college tuition subsidies with an annual price tag of up to $30 billion. And their promises don’t stop there. Most candidates have pledged new programs in federally funded areas such as primary education, roads and bridges, and energy.

All told, the Democratic platform could cost more than $700 billion over four years.

“I have a million ideas,” Clinton tells the Boston Globe, “and the country can’t afford them all.”

On that point, even Clinton’s critics agree with her.


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Originally Posted by tie View Post
Why would I be bummed about the capture of SH?
I don't know... you seemed miffed that we had taken out Saddam Hussein.

OBL has nothing to do with Al Qaeda, I know that. Sorry, I forgot that your definition of "terrorist" is Democrat.
He really doesn't have anything to do with Al Qaeda at this point. Are you so angry that you're just beyond saying anything sensible at this point tie? I mean, that certainly seems to be the case here. Wanna try again like an adult?

I think the hope is that a Democratic president would carry out the war on terror with something approaching competence.
War is difficult. War is often unpredictable. The actual "war" part of our plan went swimmingly well. The "nation-building" part of our plan has been dicey and I've been critical of this aspect of our action in Iraq.

And maybe he'll actually focus on the war on terror, instead of the war on random countries.
There's nothing at all "random" about Iraq. It sits right smack dab in the middle of the Middle East with a wealth of resources from which to build the cornerstone of democracy, prosperity. It is also prime staging grounds for the development of an effective military presence in the region. We drafted many Resolutions against failure to comply over 12 years. We drafted a final Resolution calling for "serious consequences" for non-compliance. Saddam Hussein ensured Iraq would remain "non-random". You might know with Iraq and Iran engaged in an arms race driving one another toward advanced weaponry, China and Russia courting the resources of Iran, N. Korea selling arms to Syria, and the mutual distaste of all toward another valued ally in the region, inaction is as deplorable as any action. Not to forget the Sino agreement between Russian and China drafted in 1999, prior to any serious action in Iraq. Believe me, I'd love nothing more than to sing kumbaya around a cup o' joe at Starbucks, bury our head in the sand and pretend isolationism is effective foreign policy, but I'm not sure this acknowledges the full scope of geopolitical complications in the ME. You seem stuck on bumper sticker platitudes when there are real issues facing our globe. If you're not growing, you're dying. Syria knows this. China knows this. Russia knows this. N. Korea knows this. Cuba knows this. Iran knows this. Iraq knew it. In fact, you might be the only one who doesn't know this tie.

If it ends up being Hillary Clinton, then we might just have more of the same, which I'm sure you'd love.
No I'd hate it, trust me. Particularly her rendition of Bush. Not good.
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