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videian28 · Sep 29, 2003, 06:25 PM

ordered on the 23rd, recieved today with my airport card which I installed myself..

wish my ram woulda made it

there's always tomorrow

very nice machine

pknoll · Sep 29, 2003, 06:35 PM

Congratulations. =)

My 15" arrived last Thursday, been using it all weekend. Installed my AE card and more RAM before I powered it up the first time, hehe.

It's been a long time since a piece of hardware has made me happy just using it.

I'll agree, all the new PowerBooks are nice machines.

polendo · Sep 29, 2003, 06:36 PM

Congratulations!

Did it came installed w/ 10.2.6 or 10.2.8?

regards

CrackedButter · Sep 29, 2003, 06:39 PM

Run some tests, what games play nice on it...give us the juicy info.

AssassyN · Sep 29, 2003, 07:02 PM

Very cool...did you play w/ the 867Mhz 12" PB before? Seem a lot faster?

videian28 · Sep 29, 2003, 07:14 PM

it came with 10.2.7

it seems faster than my old 17" pb (i think)

512mb ram to add tomorrow

iohead · Sep 29, 2003, 07:59 PM

Originally posted by videian28:
ordered on the 23rd, recieved today with my airport card which I installed myself..

wish my ram woulda made it

there's always tomorrow

very nice machine

Surprised that nobody brought this up yet ...

How much do you weigh? ;-)

(Sorry ... couldn't help it!)

Enjoy your new machine.

-A

videian28 · Sep 29, 2003, 08:32 PM

you lost me there

videian28 · Sep 29, 2003, 08:32 PM

just did my first calibration, says 2:50 min on lowest power and half screen brightness

nothing happening but me surfing the web

Draco · Sep 29, 2003, 11:57 PM

this was not a BTO order was it? If so I'd be pissed

Enjoy.

hexcalibur · Sep 30, 2003, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by videian28:
you lost me there

I suspect iohead was intrigued by your original title. If you'd said "I'm typing this WITH my new 12" powerbook" there'd be less scope for weight jokes.

God, nothing slaughters a joke like an explanation. And this one was in the ICU already (no offense, iohead).

Skypat · Sep 30, 2003, 04:54 AM

Congratulations. I'de like to buy a powerbook 12 myself. I've never owned a Powerbook before. Can you tell me about heat, noise and battery life ?

Those are my 3 main concerns since I still hesitate between an iBook (which I know is not noisy, not hot and last longer than a Powerbook) and a PowerBook. I'd like to be able to watch a movie in a train for example. I know it is possible on an iBook. Thank you!

nobitacu · Sep 30, 2003, 05:27 AM

Congrats on your new found joy. ^_^

Ming

videian28 · Sep 30, 2003, 09:18 AM

Heat as far as I have seen is absoloutly no problem, battery life looks to be around 3 hours (lowest performance, airport on, bluetooth off, just web surfing and half screen brightness) The fan has yet to come on or I hve not knowticed it, I hear the hard drive more than anything...tho not annoying by any respects.

I just wish the battery lasted longer.. my only test was right after I calibrated it for the first time, maybe it will improve
I just don't see how you could ever get the claimed 5 hours out of it

CrackedButter · Sep 30, 2003, 10:05 AM

Lower the screen some more, maybe all the way leaving 1 square for brightness and turn your airport off.

If i need the juice i turn the screen ALL the way down, sometimes just touch type so i don't need the screen.

videian28 · Sep 30, 2003, 02:39 PM

it's sad that you need to do that

AssassyN · Sep 30, 2003, 02:49 PM

Heh, well...I caved in. I bought a new 1Ghz 12" PB on a price mistake (great deal) at my college, and intended on selling it...well, I'm selling my 867Mhz 12" PB instead, hehehe, after I eat I'm about to crack open the box!

aapljack · Sep 30, 2003, 02:55 PM

Congrats, AssassyN. Let us know what you think of the new PB compared to the 867.

-b

videian28 · Sep 30, 2003, 04:55 PM

and we all thought you would get a g5 first

videian28 · Sep 30, 2003, 05:22 PM

512 mb extra ram now installed

definatly snappier

AssassyN · Sep 30, 2003, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by videian28:
512 mb extra ram now installed definatly snappier

Tell me about it

Hehe, just popped my 512MB SODIMM outta my Rev. A 12" PB and into my Rev. B 12" PB...wow, this thing rocks so far.

Two huge issues: NO STICKY TRACKPAD, very solid clicks, very nice not to have this problem anymore, and another thing, WAY LESS HEAT! While doing FireWire transfer, Ethernet transfer, installing apps., and being plugged in, it merely gets "warm"...my Rev. A unit was always hotter than this unit is when under a heavy load.

I'm just now setting things up & getting files transferred, so I can't judge it's gaming performance, raw speed increase, etc., but it's safe to say it's definitely faster. The 512 L2 cache helps a bunch, and an additional 128MB of RAM probably aids as well...more impressions later!

sworthy · Sep 30, 2003, 06:22 PM

I don't know if you've ever used a 1GHz Tibook, but if so, any difference compared to that? I'm "downgrading" from a 1GHz TiBook w/ a gig of ram.

AssassyN · Sep 30, 2003, 06:28 PM

I've never owned a GigaBook, but played with them, and here's how they stack up...

The speed is exactly the same, and the 12" PB just might be a bit faster. Their front-side-bus speeds are identical, and so are their CPU clock speeds. The 12" PB has faster RAM *and* double the L2 cache which speeds things right along. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with it's performance

Just make sure you toss at least a 512MB RAM chip in there

CrackedButter · Sep 30, 2003, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by videian28:
it's sad that you need to do that

I don't need to do it, i do it because i don't NEED the screen on while touch typing.

Just like you won't leave your speakers on if not listening to music.

schk · Sep 30, 2003, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by AssassyN:
I've never owned a GigaBook, but played with them, and here's how they stack up...

The speed is exactly the same, and the 12" PB just might be a bit faster. Their front-side-bus speeds are identical, and so are their CPU clock speeds. The 12" PB has faster RAM *and* double the L2 cache which speeds things right along. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with it's performance Just make sure you toss at least a 512MB RAM chip in there

I couldn't tell much of a difference coming from my 1ghz TiBook w/ 1 gig of RAM to my new 12" with only 256MB (waiting till 1gb chip price goes down). I haven't done much intensive stuff, but overall it feels very similar.

AssassyN, nice to see you switched to the rev B. Maybe you can do a little comparison since most people seemed to be concerned with rev. A vs rev. B. And you seem to be the first to upgrade within the same form factor.

AssassyN · Sep 30, 2003, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by schk:
I couldn't tell much of a difference coming from my 1ghz TiBook w/ 1 gig of RAM to my new 12" with only 256MB (waiting till 1gb chip price goes down). I haven't done much intensive stuff, but overall it feels very similar.

AssassyN, nice to see you switched to the rev B. Maybe you can do a little comparison since most people seemed to be concerned with rev. A vs rev. B. And you seem to be the first to upgrade within the same form factor.

Yeah, if the 1GIG RAM SODIMMs go down in price anytime soon, I'll upgrade...for now, 768MB works fine. I'm installing Unreal Tournament, SoF II, and maybe RtCW now and I'll try to type up a pretty good comparison between the Rev. A 12" PB and the Rev. B 12" PB as soon as I can

escher · Sep 30, 2003, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by AssassyN:
WAY LESS HEAT! While doing FireWire transfer, Ethernet transfer, installing apps., and being plugged in, it merely gets "warm"...my Rev. A unit was always hotter than this unit is when under a heavy load.

AssassyN: Thanks for the great Rev.A to Rev.B 12-inch PowerBook comparison. I really have to hold myself back from buying one of these new 12-inchers before I can afford it. I'm still tempted by the 15-inch, but the 12-inch is just a much better fit for me.

It's a bit disappointing that battery life hasn't been very good so far. The 15-inch's battery life is obviously bad, but I figured with that the 12-inch with the small screen and lower bus speed would do quite a bit better. I guess there are simply no miracles.

Escher

videian28 · Sep 30, 2003, 09:13 PM

i am hearing that panther works miracles