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Sealobo · 07:41 PM

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OreoCookie · Dec 3, 2005, 04:38 PM

The names are funny

Jupiter: wood
Saturn: earth
Mercury: water

Are they traditional names or `translated' Western names?

BlueSky · Dec 3, 2005, 04:44 PM

I didn't realize Mars was that small in relation to Earth. And Uranus is huge.

angelmb · Dec 3, 2005, 04:46 PM

Yogi Berra used to say "No one goes there nowadays, it's too crowded."

Nice image(s), thanks.

Oisín · Dec 3, 2005, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

The names are funny

Jupiter: wood
Saturn: earth
Mercury: water

Are they traditional names or `translated' Western names?

They seem to be a kind of mixture...

Mercury: Water Planet ('Star', literally)
Venus: Gold Planet
Earth: Earth Ball
Mars: Fire Planet
Jupiter: Wood/Tree Planet
Saturn: Earth Planet (logical, innit?)
Uranus: King of Heaven Planet [as in Ouranos, the 'King of Heaven']
Neptune: King of the Sea Planet
Pluto: King of the Netherworld Planet

Sun: Sun

Odd mixture, with some of them seeming to have 'proper' Chinese names, and some of them seemingly translated from the Western names...

OreoCookie · Dec 3, 2005, 05:11 PM

Well, I did understand, but Neptune is the God of the Sea, so this did not really take me by surprise. Mars as fire planet was also straight forward.

But wood for Jupiter and earth for Saturn? I'm pretty sure those two were already known by Chinese astronomers … so is that really their old names?

gururafiki · Dec 3, 2005, 06:10 PM

Mars is smaller than I thought...too small for all of us to move to when we destroy Earth.

Isn't there a newly discovered 10th planet? I would like to see how big it is in relation to the rest of the planets...

Peter · Dec 3, 2005, 06:13 PM

thats amazing

Oisín · Dec 3, 2005, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

Well, I did understand, but Neptune is the God of the Sea, so this did not really take me by surprise. Mars as fire planet was also straight forward.

But wood for Jupiter and earth for Saturn? I'm pretty sure those two were already known by Chinese astronomers … so is that really their old names?

Must be, I assume. Fits in nicely: five planets, one for each of the five elements.

Gold for Venus, Wood for Jupiter, Water for Mercury, Fire for Mars, and Earth for Saturn.

Kerrigan · Dec 3, 2005, 06:17 PM

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I'll get you for this Sealobo

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OreoCookie · Dec 3, 2005, 06:17 PM

Yeah, pretty much like the days of the week (at least in Japanese that is).

Oisín · Dec 3, 2005, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

Yeah, pretty much like the days of the week (at least in Japanese that is).

I'm not sure how they handled that in China before adopting our calendric system (perhaps Sealobo knows?), but in Modern Chinese, the days of the week are frightfully dull, really: 星期一，星期二，星期三，星期四，� �期五，星期六，星期日／星期天. Last one is obviously translated from the Germanic varieties, but the others are simply numbered “Weekday One—Six”.

Edit: Damn this forum's screwed up UTF handling!

Y3a · Dec 3, 2005, 06:26 PM

if you think the SIZE is amazing, look at the distances between the planets orbits, or between the sun and the orbits. At the speed of light, it takes 8 minutes for that light to get to earth from the sun!

Dale Sorel · Dec 3, 2005, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by BlueSky

And Uranus is huge.

Why thank you

OreoCookie · Dec 3, 2005, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Oisín

I'm not sure how they handled that in China before adopting our calendric system (perhaps Sealobo knows?), but in Modern Chinese, the days of the week are frightfully dull, really: 星期一，星期二，星期三，星期四，� �期五，星期六，星期日／星期天. Last one is obviously translated from the Germanic varieties, but the others are simply numbered “Weekday One—Six”.

Edit: Damn this forum's screwed up UTF handling!

In Japanese you have the five elements plus sunday plus moon day.

日曜日、月曜日、火曜日、水曜日、� �曜日、金曜日、土曜日。

Oisín · Dec 3, 2005, 07:37 PM

Well, what do you know, those seem to exist in Chinese as well, with the same meanings. Some of them are listed as “wr.” (i.e., literary or archaic) or, in the case of Thursday, as “Jp.” (i.e., Japanese).

Don't know if they're only there as Japanese terms, or if they're actually ever used in Chinese, though.

Kevin · Dec 3, 2005, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by BlueSky

And Uranus is huge.

*rimshot*

TailsToo · Dec 3, 2005, 08:35 PM

I think the 10th planet is actually smaller tha pluto..

OreoCookie · Dec 3, 2005, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Oisín

Well, what do you know, those seem to exist in Chinese as well, with the same meanings. Some of them are listed as “wr.” (i.e., literary or archaic) or, in the case of Thursday, as “Jp.” (i.e., Japanese).

Don't know if they're only there as Japanese terms, or if they're actually ever used in Chinese, though.

Hmmm, I see. I wish I could ask a friend of mine, but I rarely see him online (he speaks among other languages also Japanese and Chinese).

Oisín · Dec 3, 2005, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

Hmmm, I see. I wish I could ask a friend of mine, but I rarely see him online (he speaks among other languages also Japanese and Chinese).

I can try asking one of my classmates: she's Chinese, but with a BA in Japanese.

angelmb · Dec 4, 2005, 06:15 AM

Just found this upcoming (?) Spielberg film… "When Worlds Collide"

http://imdb.com/title/tt0455856/

When a group of astronomers calculate one planet is on course to pass close enough to the Earth to cause havoc on land and sea while a few days later a second will record a direct hit, they set about building a rocket so a few selected individuals can escape to the first of the unwanted intruders.

So Spielberg… which one ?

Athens · Dec 4, 2005, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by gururafiki

Mars is smaller than I thought...too small for all of us to move to when we destroy Earth.

Isn't there a newly discovered 10th planet? I would like to see how big it is in relation to the rest of the planets...

you forget there is more land on mars then on earth, most of earth is water

gururafiki · Dec 4, 2005, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Athens

you forget there is more land on mars then on earth, most of earth is water

You are totally right. So barring that we don't need water on Mars, we should all fit on there fine.

ghporter · Dec 4, 2005, 04:59 PM

Without a sufficient atmosphere, we'd need to build enclosed areas to live in. By simply managing the air conditioning properly, we'd wind up with water to spare-humans expell water in their breath, enough to be a very useful source of water (and nicer to think about than the whole "recycled liquid waste" thing, too).